oh that sucks, i'm on my way to get spacers too, did you just guesstimate? or did you measure? if you measured, how did you do that?

 

It says to measure the distance of the top of the tire to the fenderwell. It's on Ichibas site when you look at their spacers.

 

Well I took them off and no more feeling of driving offroad. The only problem is that the back rubs a little bit when cornering really really hard. I guess I can just bend the inner fender well up a little bit. There has to be a way to make those spacers work though. Its like the place where the hub meets the rim that is taken place by the spacer is too big. Not by much but there is maybe a 1/4 inch of play. The REDNECK way I guess would be to get someone to weld the spacer to the rim, but then tire removal could be a problem.

 

Hmm, you may need some hub rings. Go visit a local tire shop and see if you can pick up some cheap plastic rings and see if that fixes the problem. If it does, go get some metal ones to replace the plastic. I say this route because then you don't end up with a part that doesn't fix your problem. GL

 

Yeah I'll have to get on that soon for now I'm just runnin the backs. It still looks really good.

 

Do you mean that outside diameter, of the Spacer, is smaller than than
the outside diameter of both the Rotor Hub and the Wheel Hub?
If so, my Spacer is smaller than both and it runs just fine. ...and because
the spacer fits snugly (Hub-centric) on the Rotor Hub, it's concentric with the Wheel.

 

One more important item...
H & R recommends re-tightening your lugs after 60 or so miles...
I would do it way earlier...FYI

 

It fit snug on the hub but not on the wheel. It seemed like that wouldn't be the problem but I just didn't want to mess up my car. All of the lugs were tight cause I made sure after it started. I don't know what else it could be.

 

get my pops to look at it.

by the way looks good mayne

 

Looks a lot better. Hope you get the front to work.

 

Does the wheel fit snug on the OEM hub once you removed the spacer? Do you have hubcentric rings for your wheels yet?

 

No I'm gonna work on getting some tomorrow. It does fit snug on the OEM hub. It makes me think that it's not that but when I took the fronts off there is not that much vibration. A big difference I think the back is causing a little bit of vibration too though.

 

I don't have a Ring between the Spacer and the Wheel (and wasn't supplied one from H & R)...and I don't have any vibration at all!! I would think that with the "male" taper on the Lugs and the "female" taper on the Wheel, that this would be sufficient to line up the Wheel to the Hub / Spacer. Could you possibly have Studs that are too long? Is your Spacer loose between the Hub and Wheel when you tighten everything up?

 

No everything is tight I don't know why it would be vibrating. It feels like my tires are out of balance, but they don't vibrate with the spacers off.

 

I see 2 possibilities here:

1. The spacers are not centered correctly on the hub and once you rotate them fast enough, it becomes noticeable. It doesn't take much to get vibrations to happen.

2. The spacers themselves are not balanced correctly, meaning that there could be a manufacturing defect in the spacer that is causing this. If the center of gravity of it is not exactly in the center of rotation, you'll notice if you go fast enough.

Think of it this way, if you ever driven in the snow and you get some snow in the spokes of a wheel and drive fast enough, you'll feel it because the wheel will be out of balance. Little extra weight that snow adds can be noticable at high speeds. Your situation is very similar. Something isn't right with the spacers. You proved it by taking them off and problem went away. Having them on tight enough is not your problem in this case.

 

I read somewhere that it is good to get them balanced on the wheel, maybe that will help. I am still friends with the people up at my old high school and I could use the tire balancing machine. Worth a try cause it's free.

 

...but can they really be that far off center?
You would/should be able to see this since the Spacer is so small in diameter and
thickness. If you have access to a lathe, I'd chuck it up and indicate, to see how true it runs (or runs-out).
I would also check to see if the mounting face is flat and clean...and that
the Studs are not too long.

 

Well, I am just going with the only possibilities that I see here. What else could it be? He puts the spacer on, it vibrates. He takes it off, it stops. I'd say it is related to the spacer So, going forward from that, what could make the spacer vibrate? It could be loose. He eliminated that possibility. The other possibilities I already mentioned. Do you see anything else? Maybe the studs aren't exactly the same.

My main point is that it doesn't take much to make the wheel unbalanced. At 70mph, give the stock size, that wheel will rotate more than 900 times a minute. All it takes is a minor manufacturing defect to screw things up, or the spacer isn't lined up correctly on the hub. I can't think of any other possibilities.

 

I agree...there aren't too many possibilities for the Spacer to be causing the
imbalance. I think that we've all come up with "most" of the potential causes and I am also lost for any additional ideas.

Your also correct about a "minor manufacturing defect"! ...but can they be that far off?
I would assume that this imperfection should stand-out (visually).
Maybe we could get some pics of the Spacer???

Keep us posted, when you find the solution...

 

I went to a rim shop today and got some plastic hubcentric rings. It helped the vibration a lot but I can still feel more than stock. J_DIZZLE is almost here and were gonna use his stockers to see if their is a difference.