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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 08:49 AM
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what tire combo can you run on a 9.5/10.5" that you cant run on a 8.5/9.5 [obviously short of a 275/305 combo, which you cant do with the silly offsets that are so popular anyhow]?

I'd say that the majority of the people with wider rims run the exact same tire config as the narrower rim guys. So to say, its dead is ignorant. Plain and simple its just not as trendy. As the Z becomes associated with a 16 years olds 1st car, expect more silly trends to continue.

Soon we'll be wondering why fake fender vents weren't stock.

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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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^they are stock on bmw m series. :P
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
what tire combo can you run on a 9.5/10.5" that you cant run on a 8.5/9.5 [obviously short of a 275/305 combo, which you cant do with the silly offsets that are so popular anyhow]?

I'd say that the majority of the people with wider rims run the exact same tire config as the narrower rim guys. So to say, its dead is ignorant. Plain and simple its just not as trendy. As the Z becomes associated with a 16 years olds 1st car, expect more silly trends to continue.

Soon we'll be wondering why fake fender vents weren't stock.
All well put, though I liked our 275/305 combo quite a bit (9"/10.5"), which could not be done with +12 offsets. A 285/30 front is also getting more popular for us competitive types, which can't (shouldn't?) be done on said 8.5" front wheel.
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GeauxLadyZ
Why would track guys want so much understeer and more rotational mass on the dead wheels in front?
How many times are you going to prove you havent a clue what the **** your talking about?
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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To answer your question (IMO): Yes, 8.5/9.5 is DEAD. That is wayyy to weak for a 350z. My current setup is 9.5/10.5 -6ET...next setup (coming this winter) is going to be 19x10 & 19x11 with about the same offset.
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
what tire combo can you run on a 9.5/10.5" that you cant run on a 8.5/9.5 [obviously short of a 275/305 combo, which you cant do with the silly offsets that are so popular anyhow]?

I'd say that the majority of the people with wider rims run the exact same tire config as the narrower rim guys. So to say, its dead is ignorant. Plain and simple its just not as trendy. As the Z becomes associated with a 16 years olds 1st car, expect more silly trends to continue.

Soon we'll be wondering why fake fender vents weren't stock.
According to a Yokohama sizing chart I was looking at, in 19", the max tire for an 8.5 is a 255, max for a 9.5 is a 285, max for a 10.5 would be a 305. I guess a 255 on the front would be a bit small for competition use in some cases.

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To answer your question (IMO): Yes, 8.5/9.5 is DEAD. That is wayyy to weak for a 350z. My current setup is 9.5/10.5 -6ET...next setup (coming this winter) is going to be 19x10 & 19x11 with about the same offset.
How is the handling and ride quality of your configuration?

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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 0jiggy0
How many times are you going to prove you havent a clue what the **** your talking about?
Right on the money......very poor (just flat out wrong) advice from GeauxLadyZ.
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GeauxLadyZ
Why would track guys want so much understeer and more rotational mass on the dead wheels in front?
You need more front wheel width to increase the frontal grip that comes from the OEM 225/245 set-up. A 245/40 front and 245/45 rear will accomplish that on the stock 8" wheels, however, upgrade to 9" wheels and one can run the same square set-up while increasing grip at each corner with 275s all around. Larger tires than 275s all-around are also possible, with many other factors coming into play.
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PikeZ_350
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To answer your question (IMO): Yes, 8.5/9.5 is DEAD. That is wayyy to weak for a 350z. My current setup is 9.5/10.5 -6ET...next setup (coming this winter) is going to be 19x10 & 19x11 with about the same offset.
I agree with this. For my taste, it is dead
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 12:11 PM
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When you say "weak"... do you mean, for track/competitive use?... What if your Z is only for a daily commute and maybe some spirited canyon driving once in awhile?...then wouldn't the 8.5/9.5 set up still be valid? in terms of function and looks?... (afterall, isn't it better than OEM set-up?)
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by huanandonly
When you say "weak"... do you mean, for track/competitive use?... What if your Z is only for a daily commute and maybe some spirited canyon driving once in awhile?...then wouldn't the 8.5/9.5 set up still be valid? in terms of function and looks?... (afterall, isn't it better than OEM set-up?)
Weak meaning looking like a cholo. Nothing wrong with the look it's just not practical.

Also I still see nothing wrong with a 8.5 / 9.5 setup for track use. It's not going to be the miniscule difference in tire size that's holding you back, it's going to be your driving ability. Which is the place I'm in now.

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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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^LOL at cholo comment.
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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if i never tracked my car then a 8.5/9.5 245/275 would be fine--only problem is finding 8.5's with a decent offset. even the aggressive 8.5's will have no concave or lip(if thats what your into). the looks crowd go with the 9.5 front for the better "fitment" options. you can stretch a 255 on a 9.5, any less than that is pretty sad really--even narrow running 255's look pretty silly.
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Waizzz
^LOL at cholo comment.
lol I heard that song today at the mall and it stuck with me.
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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LOL, don't you love how people make a thread citing "everyone" but has nothing to back it up.

This thread is worthless.

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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PikeZ_350
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To answer your question (IMO): Yes, 8.5/9.5 is DEAD. That is wayyy to weak for a 350z. My current setup is 9.5/10.5 -6ET...next setup (coming this winter) is going to be 19x10 & 19x11 with about the same offset.
Ok. I'm going to throw my 2 cents in this, hopefully it will help answer the OPs original question:

I think that tires/wheels should serve a purpose. IMO putting a 305 tire on the rear of a stock NA 350 is totally impractical. Now if you have a TT or a built motor or have some damn REASON for that much rubber, then thats a totally different story.

A 275-305 stagger is a total waste on a non tracked, stock HP daily driver.

Sure it looks cool. But unless you are actually going to use it, then WTF?

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my 1st wheels were 8.5/9.5. **** was weak. offsets in 30s. Now running 10s all around and it LOOKS SICK!!
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
my 1st wheels were 8.5/9.5. **** was weak. offsets in 30s. Now running 10s all around and it LOOKS SICK!!
Lol yup. I never said it didn't LOOK good. Looks killer.
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Originally Posted by Ruthless18x
Weak meaning looking like a cholo. Nothing wrong with the look it's just not practical.

Also I still see nothing wrong with a 8.5 / 9.5 setup for track use. It's not going to be the miniscule difference in tire size that's holding you back, it's going to be your driving ability. Which is the place I'm in now.
Lmao... Cholo, what a funny word.
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Originally Posted by huanandonly
When you say "weak"... do you mean, for track/competitive use?... What if your Z is only for a daily commute and maybe some spirited canyon driving once in awhile?...then wouldn't the 8.5/9.5 set up still be valid? in terms of function and looks?... (afterall, isn't it better than OEM set-up?)
Originally Posted by Ruthless18x
Weak meaning looking like a cholo. Nothing wrong with the look it's just not practical.

Also I still see nothing wrong with a 8.5 / 9.5 setup for track use. It's not going to be the miniscule difference in tire size that's holding you back, it's going to be your driving ability. Which is the place I'm in now.
Originally Posted by bimmertech
if i never tracked my car then a 8.5/9.5 245/275 would be fine--only problem is finding 8.5's with a decent offset. even the aggressive 8.5's will have no concave or lip(if thats what your into). the looks crowd go with the 9.5 front for the better "fitment" options. you can stretch a 255 on a 9.5, any less than that is pretty sad really--even narrow running 255's look pretty silly.
Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
my 1st wheels were 8.5/9.5. **** was weak. offsets in 30s. Now running 10s all around and it LOOKS SICK!!
Random poll, does this look great, good, ok, or weak?



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