Looking to purchase tires today..What to get?
07-26-2015, 10:29 AM
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07-26-2015, 12:10 PM
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07-26-2015, 10:39 PM
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I am.all.the J0K3Rs. I know cars in general. Being a 'z expert' means nothing.. and every enthusiast should know how to get the right size tire. And I BELIEVE a Z is dangerous when driven 'spiritedly' on a 160$ tire. God damn car noobs.
Btw my info IS helpful.
Ive hit cubs in stock.z wheels and bashed many other wheels. They ALL break, genius's. Dont expect a 4k set of work wheelz to.save you from.driving like a moron. XXRs come in the right sizes and look.better than 15yo volks. And they wont 'break' if you dont crash. Period.
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07-27-2015, 04:02 AM
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I am.all.the J0K3Rs. I know cars in general. Being a 'z expert' means nothing.. and every enthusiast should know how to get the right size tire. And I BELIEVE a Z is dangerous when driven 'spiritedly' on a 160$ tire. God damn car noobs.
Btw my info IS helpful.
Ive hit cubs in stock.z wheels and bashed many other wheels. They ALL break, genius's. Dont expect a 4k set of work wheelz to.save you from.driving like a moron. XXRs come in the right sizes and look.better than 15yo volks. And they wont 'break' if you dont crash. Period.
WARNING: LONG WINDED (what I hope to be) FLAME WAR ENDER. (Read at your own risk)
Really? Another person who thinks they know me. You don't know me.
Let me clarify something here. I made one of the suggestions for a $160 street tire (Hell, don't even think it costs that!). I drive/drove on them as well as driving on my $300/unit DOT-approved race tires. I drive on either set accordingly and do not make recommendations to others unless I actually have time on them and know how capable they are or aren't. I can tell you what the tires are doing at 30 or 130 and know how to read a pyrometer to adjust camber or wing angles.
Further, I am a Bondurant and 2x SCCA school trained ex-Formula Ford and Prod car competitor, I worked for Nissan managing distribution of Datsun Competition (now evolved to Nissan Motorsports/NISMO) parts some THIRTY years ago. I have owned and successfully built 25+ street driven and competition cars for drag, autocross, and road racing. The takeaway from that is that I have experience that I like to share with others on parts, tires, driving, whatever is beneficial for the forum membership - be they salty old pros or newcomers, alike.
Point is, I got pedigree. But I don't advertise that fact. Never done so (until now) because I don't have a need to prove anything to anyone. (Unfortunately, the low signal:noise ratio of this drew me out and I don't care much for it. Feh.)
You, on the other hand, come in to the forum this month like a troll and tell everyone how f'd up they are and admitting to how many wheels you've curbed, bashed, and broken. Think about that for a moment. If you can't understand what I'm telling you about that admission, well, read no further because the rest assuredly will mean nothing to you.
BUT.... I still learn from people here. On any topic or subject matter. Regardless of their tenure or newness here. Whether they are 17 or 70. (Do you know who Max Verstappen is? I would LOVE to take a driving lesson from that 17 year old!!) It's called an "open mind".
Sure, everyone that drives their Z (or any other car) the way they are meant to be driven can and often will put a wheel off course and break something. But to use that point as a reinforcement of your choice of wheel.... umm, not so much.
But I have to say that of all the idiosyncratic comments you made - in this thread alone - the one condemning people being "God damn car noobs." (where you can't even get the italicization correct) is the one that irks me the most.
What, do you think you were born Carroll Shelby? My uncle Confusion (Confucious' younger brother) has a saying (one of many) you might care to consider: "Take pride in your ACCOMPLISHMENTS, as high as you have reached on the ladder of success, but NEVER forget that you were once on the ground about to take that first rung...reluctantly." (And please note the proper italicization of that phrase.)
So, while you claim to have knowledge of cars in general (jack of all trades, master of none), let's make it clear that no one on this thread claims to be a "Z expert". Some genuinely are, most not. That's why we're all here talking. (Not here just to hear ourselves talk.)
And I'll say, you're right. Enthusiasts SHOULD know how to properly size a tire to a car. But not everyone does. Yet.
The real bottom line is that the entire point of this forum (and all forums) is to discuss our cars intelligently, to learn from others by searching and asking, to share useful info. Likening this to a classroom, well, there are going to be the smart, experienced kids, the ones in the middle and a few who are just starting out and are there to learn.
Then there are the ones who are on the fringe. You know the ones... Probably smart but have too much attitude to take part constructively, cooperatively, and without a willingness to add to the conversation thusly. Those are called the "all about thems." My wife, the educator, has a word for those displaying such tendencies. "Problematic".
Your contributions thus far have shown everyone where in this construct you fall.
So, sir/madam, I would strongly suggest that you take a look at your postings -with an empathetic vantage point on how you come across - and then and only then, if you think you have something constructive to contribute, by all means, go for it. But if all you are going to do is belittle others with bad 'tude, self righteousness, and a transparent know-it-all belief in yourself, well, hope you got your Nomex on.
Mic
PS BTW, your ink impresses no one. It's just self profession of insecurity taken to a new high. Not saying it isn't nice, just has no cred in the context of this thread.
07-27-2015, 05:16 AM
#27
I am.all.the J0K3Rs. I know cars in general. Being a 'z expert' means nothing.. and every enthusiast should know how to get the right size tire. And I BELIEVE a Z is dangerous when driven 'spiritedly' on a 160$ tire. God damn car noobs.
Btw my info IS helpful.
Ive hit cubs in stock.z wheels and bashed many other wheels. They ALL break, genius's. Dont expect a 4k set of work wheelz to.save you from.driving like a moron. XXRs come in the right sizes and look.better than 15yo volks. And they wont 'break' if you dont crash. Period.
07-27-2015, 06:25 AM
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I am.all.the J0K3Rs. I know cars in general. Being a 'z expert' means nothing.. and every enthusiast should know how to get the right size tire. And I BELIEVE a Z is dangerous when driven 'spiritedly' on a 160$ tire. God damn car noobs.
Btw my info IS helpful.
Ive hit cubs in stock.z wheels and bashed many other wheels. They ALL break, genius's. Dont expect a 4k set of work wheelz to.save you from.driving like a moron. XXRs come in the right sizes and look.better than 15yo volks. And they wont 'break' if you dont crash. Period.
Secondly, volks dont break, they bend. Theres a difference, and if you dont understand that, you have NO room to call anyone a "noob"
Thirdly, my tires works fine, and theyre 160 bucks... and im also turboed... and im also driving it like i stole it...and yet its still doing great.
Fourthly, last i recall, majority of pro race team uses volks, bbs, ssr wheels, not cheap xxr crap, i wonder why...
Fifthly, a 15 year old volks is STILL better than your shitty xxr crappy wheels.
6thly, sizing tires isnt rocket science, i can fit 285s on 9 in wide wheels or i can fit it on 13 inch wide wheels.
7th, youre clueless, people here have been building and racing car before you were born.
8th, YOUR 27, you dont even know what you dont know yet....
9th, show some respect for the elder members how have help build this forum to the greatness that it is.
10, you are so clueless about tires that all you have to say is, "$160 tires are crap."
Last edited by turboed350z; 07-27-2015 at 05:12 PM.
07-27-2015, 06:46 AM
#29
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Well said, Mic.
Nvr seen you p1ssed off, but I'd say it is waranted. Hopefully the little d bag will learn some manners and etiquette. Mb come back when he/she is ready to be polite.
WARNING: LONG WINDED (what I hope to be) FLAME WAR ENDER. (Read at your own risk)
Really? Another person who thinks they know me. You don't know me.
Let me clarify something here. I made one of the suggestions for a $160 street tire (Hell, don't even think it costs that!). I drive/drove on them as well as driving on my $300/unit DOT-approved race tires. I drive on either set accordingly and do not make recommendations to others unless I actually have time on them and know how capable they are or aren't. I can tell you what the tires are doing at 30 or 130 and know how to read a pyrometer to adjust camber or wing angles.
Further, I am a Bondurant and 2x SCCA school trained ex-Formula Ford and Prod car competitor, I worked for Nissan managing distribution of Datsun Competition (now evolved to Nissan Motorsports/NISMO) parts some THIRTY years ago. I have owned and successfully built 25+ street driven and competition cars for drag, autocross, and road racing. The takeaway from that is that I have experience that I like to share with others on parts, tires, driving, whatever is beneficial for the forum membership - be they salty old pros or newcomers, alike.
Point is, I got pedigree. But I don't advertise that fact. Never done so (until now) because I don't have a need to prove anything to anyone. (Unfortunately, the low signal:noise ratio of this drew me out and I don't care much for it. Feh.)
You, on the other hand, come in to the forum this month like a troll and tell everyone how f'd up they are and admitting to how many wheels you've curbed, bashed, and broken. Think about that for a moment. If you can't understand what I'm telling you about that admission, well, read no further because the rest assuredly will mean nothing to you.
BUT.... I still learn from people here. On any topic or subject matter. Regardless of their tenure or newness here. Whether they are 17 or 70. (Do you know who Max Verstappen is? I would LOVE to take a driving lesson from that 17 year old!!) It's called an "open mind".
Sure, everyone that drives their Z (or any other car) the way they are meant to be driven can and often will put a wheel off course and break something. But to use that point as a reinforcement of your choice of wheel.... umm, not so much.
But I have to say that of all the idiosyncratic comments you made - in this thread alone - the one condemning people being "God damn car noobs." (where you can't even get the italicization correct) is the one that irks me the most.
What, do you think you were born Carroll Shelby? My uncle Confusion (Confucious' younger brother) has a saying (one of many) you might care to consider: "Take pride in your ACCOMPLISHMENTS, as high as you have reached on the ladder of success, but NEVER forget that you were once on the ground about to take that first rung...reluctantly." (And please note the proper italicization of that phrase.)
So, while you claim to have knowledge of cars in general (jack of all trades, master of none), let's make it clear that no one on this thread claims to be a "Z expert". Some genuinely are, most not. That's why we're all here talking. (Not here just to hear ourselves talk.)
And I'll say, you're right. Enthusiasts SHOULD know how to properly size a tire to a car. But not everyone does. Yet.
The real bottom line is that the entire point of this forum (and all forums) is to discuss our cars intelligently, to learn from others by searching and asking, to share useful info. Likening this to a classroom, well, there are going to be the smart, experienced kids, the ones in the middle and a few who are just starting out and are there to learn.
Then there are the ones who are on the fringe. You know the ones... Probably smart but have too much attitude to take part constructively, cooperatively, and without a willingness to add to the conversation thusly. Those are called the "all about thems." My wife, the educator, has a word for those displaying such tendencies. "Problematic".
Your contributions thus far have shown everyone where in this construct you fall.
So, sir/madam, I would strongly suggest that you take a look at your postings -with an empathetic vantage point on how you come across - and then and only then, if you think you have something constructive to contribute, by all means, go for it. But if all you are going to do is belittle others with bad 'tude, self righteousness, and a transparent know-it-all belief in yourself, well, hope you got your Nomex on.
Mic
PS BTW, your ink impresses no one. It's just self profession of insecurity taken to a new high. Not saying it isn't nice, just has no cred in the context of this thread.
Nvr seen you p1ssed off, but I'd say it is waranted. Hopefully the little d bag will learn some manners and etiquette. Mb come back when he/she is ready to be polite.
WARNING: LONG WINDED (what I hope to be) FLAME WAR ENDER. (Read at your own risk)
Really? Another person who thinks they know me. You don't know me.
Let me clarify something here. I made one of the suggestions for a $160 street tire (Hell, don't even think it costs that!). I drive/drove on them as well as driving on my $300/unit DOT-approved race tires. I drive on either set accordingly and do not make recommendations to others unless I actually have time on them and know how capable they are or aren't. I can tell you what the tires are doing at 30 or 130 and know how to read a pyrometer to adjust camber or wing angles.
Further, I am a Bondurant and 2x SCCA school trained ex-Formula Ford and Prod car competitor, I worked for Nissan managing distribution of Datsun Competition (now evolved to Nissan Motorsports/NISMO) parts some THIRTY years ago. I have owned and successfully built 25+ street driven and competition cars for drag, autocross, and road racing. The takeaway from that is that I have experience that I like to share with others on parts, tires, driving, whatever is beneficial for the forum membership - be they salty old pros or newcomers, alike.
Point is, I got pedigree. But I don't advertise that fact. Never done so (until now) because I don't have a need to prove anything to anyone. (Unfortunately, the low signal:noise ratio of this drew me out and I don't care much for it. Feh.)
You, on the other hand, come in to the forum this month like a troll and tell everyone how f'd up they are and admitting to how many wheels you've curbed, bashed, and broken. Think about that for a moment. If you can't understand what I'm telling you about that admission, well, read no further because the rest assuredly will mean nothing to you.
BUT.... I still learn from people here. On any topic or subject matter. Regardless of their tenure or newness here. Whether they are 17 or 70. (Do you know who Max Verstappen is? I would LOVE to take a driving lesson from that 17 year old!!) It's called an "open mind".
Sure, everyone that drives their Z (or any other car) the way they are meant to be driven can and often will put a wheel off course and break something. But to use that point as a reinforcement of your choice of wheel.... umm, not so much.
But I have to say that of all the idiosyncratic comments you made - in this thread alone - the one condemning people being "God damn car noobs." (where you can't even get the italicization correct) is the one that irks me the most.
What, do you think you were born Carroll Shelby? My uncle Confusion (Confucious' younger brother) has a saying (one of many) you might care to consider: "Take pride in your ACCOMPLISHMENTS, as high as you have reached on the ladder of success, but NEVER forget that you were once on the ground about to take that first rung...reluctantly." (And please note the proper italicization of that phrase.)
So, while you claim to have knowledge of cars in general (jack of all trades, master of none), let's make it clear that no one on this thread claims to be a "Z expert". Some genuinely are, most not. That's why we're all here talking. (Not here just to hear ourselves talk.)
And I'll say, you're right. Enthusiasts SHOULD know how to properly size a tire to a car. But not everyone does. Yet.
The real bottom line is that the entire point of this forum (and all forums) is to discuss our cars intelligently, to learn from others by searching and asking, to share useful info. Likening this to a classroom, well, there are going to be the smart, experienced kids, the ones in the middle and a few who are just starting out and are there to learn.
Then there are the ones who are on the fringe. You know the ones... Probably smart but have too much attitude to take part constructively, cooperatively, and without a willingness to add to the conversation thusly. Those are called the "all about thems." My wife, the educator, has a word for those displaying such tendencies. "Problematic".
Your contributions thus far have shown everyone where in this construct you fall.
So, sir/madam, I would strongly suggest that you take a look at your postings -with an empathetic vantage point on how you come across - and then and only then, if you think you have something constructive to contribute, by all means, go for it. But if all you are going to do is belittle others with bad 'tude, self righteousness, and a transparent know-it-all belief in yourself, well, hope you got your Nomex on.
Mic
PS BTW, your ink impresses no one. It's just self profession of insecurity taken to a new high. Not saying it isn't nice, just has no cred in the context of this thread.
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07-27-2015, 11:26 AM
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Adding my 2c since I have several sets of wheels all on different brand tires. I just got 265/35/18 v12s and compared to the Nitto Invos that just came off the car, they are a bit more skittish around corners. Great for daily and more comfortable than the Invos. I rotate wheels/tires as often as Mic rotates driving his 9 cars throughout the day.
07-27-2015, 11:41 AM
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07-27-2015, 05:02 PM
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07-27-2015, 05:04 PM
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Cleanup and edit your posts a bit, 7th in particular. If I have to edit posts later tonight, I won't be as nice as this warning.
I'm all about calling people out when they post dumb junk, but there is a tactfull way to do it.
I'm all about calling people out when they post dumb junk, but there is a tactfull way to do it.
07-27-2015, 05:27 PM
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So, Back on topic.
I bought Bridgestone 760's for my daily.
265/35/18 fr
295/35/18 rr
Wearing pretty well after only 5k miles. gl OP!
I bought Bridgestone 760's for my daily.
265/35/18 fr
295/35/18 rr
Wearing pretty well after only 5k miles. gl OP!
07-27-2015, 09:02 PM
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Now we are back to the topic, V12 is my go to street tire. My Z had Falken 452, Nitto Invo and V12 on it for street use. Nitto was the best, but you can't rotate it by design. I would flip the tires for rotation. The 452 was freaking awesome for the first could months, fell off and wore quickly. The V12 worked great all around, rain dry, playing in canyons and it stayed grippy for many miles.
07-28-2015, 02:48 AM
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Now we are back to the topic, V12 is my go to street tire. My Z had Falken 452, Nitto Invo and V12 on it for street use. Nitto was the best, but you can't rotate it by design. I would flip the tires for rotation. The 452 was freaking awesome for the first could months, fell off and wore quickly. The V12 worked great all around, rain dry, playing in canyons and it stayed grippy for many miles.