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Old May 20, 2008 | 06:39 AM
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Thumbs up Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta tires: Dragon tested, helldorado approved

Since getting these mounted last Monday, I've put 1800 miles on the tires including several trips along the dragon so I think I have a feel for the tires now. Comparing to the Michelin Pilot PS2 and Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 I have previously driven on (matching sizes too), I would say they fall right between the two in overall performance but with a far greater value

Noise, dry grip, wet traction, sidewall stiffness are all excellent. All that's really left to figure out is how long they're going to last. I haven't had these tires break free on me yet, the threshold of where they start to talk or get squirrelly is past where I wanted to push it on the dragon and the VDC was stepping in first. I did have the car up to 90 mph in the rain on 129 between the dragon and Fontana Village and there was no twitchiness to the car at all. Cruising up and down the highway, these tires have remained very quiet so far and are far quieter than tires like the KDW2 or my winter ContiExtremeContacts.

I would say these tires offer at least 9/10 the performance of the PS2's, and are on par with the GS-D3's for grip but with a stiffer sidewall so turn in is more responsive. So far, I'm quite happy with the tires and because of their excellent price, would purchase them again over the PS2's without hesitation. The only thing I will do next time is probably move to the 295/30/19 rear, and possibly consider the 275/30/19 front. I'm currently running the 255/35/19 and 275/35/19 combo.

I purchased the tires from AFS wheels who were very helpful and drop shipped the rears from Vredestein as soon as they got off the container ship. All dealers I called were out of stock of the 275/35/19 size.



Shots of the stretch of the 255/25/19 and 275/35/19 on a 19x9.5 and 19x10.5 rim respectively.





Left is the PS2, right is the GS-D3, both in 255/35/19 and 275/35/19 on a 9.5/10.5 combo.




And a couple other misc images for reference.





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Old May 20, 2008 | 06:41 AM
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I loved how that G looked

My buddy Jason (black TT Z with gold LE37s) has those tires, I wonder if he'll chime in
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Old May 20, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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i love these tires , they grip pretty good in the corners , much better than my previous toyos , and for the price they are a bargain .
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Old May 20, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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Hey, im the guy who asked you about these in front of the Rec center. Glad you posted a review.

Would you say the Vred's have a less mild stretch then the GS-D3?

I want to run a 295/30 but i think ill have rubbing issues or will have to run a crazy camber to clear (even with rolled fenders)
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Old May 20, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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i run 295 30 19 in the back , lower 1.25 -1.5 inch . only rubs with two passenger over bumps .
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Old May 20, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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I'm not sure about the sidewalls as the person who mounted them on my wheels stated that they provided virtually no resistance when sliding them on, but he had a lot of resistance when taking off my old kdw's.



Just a personal observation.
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Old May 20, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by blueper4mancez
i run 295 30 19 in the back , lower 1.25 -1.5 inch . only rubs with two passenger over bumps .

whats your offset?

Ill be running a 10.5 + 18 rear. Unlowered but springs are going on at the same time as the wheels.
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Old May 20, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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Yeah, the Vred's don't look to stretch as much as the GS-D3's appeared to.
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Originally Posted by Cux350z
Hey, im the guy who asked you about these in front of the Rec center. Glad you posted a review.

Would you say the Vred's have a less mild stretch then the GS-D3?

I want to run a 295/30 but i think ill have rubbing issues or will have to run a crazy camber to clear (even with rolled fenders)
I can tell u in a day or 2. Running a 10.5" +18 rear with a 295/30/19. Tires should be here any minute. I am rolled and dropped on springs.
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Old May 20, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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When the time comes to replace my BFG KDW's, I will pick up a set of these.
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Originally Posted by cbr900son
I can tell u in a day or 2. Running a 10.5" +18 rear with a 295/30/19. Tires should be here any minute. I am rolled and dropped on springs.

are you buying these same tires? Which springs?
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Old May 20, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cux350z
are you buying these same tires? Which springs?
Same tires and running tanabe springs
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Old May 20, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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I've heard nothing but good things about these tires. It's definately on the top of my list.

Great looking G!
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Old May 21, 2008 | 03:39 AM
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I wish these tires came in more sizes. I need 225/40/18 and 275/40/18 so I guess I am out of luck
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Old May 21, 2008 | 03:49 AM
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what made you choose those tires?
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Old May 21, 2008 | 04:29 AM
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These tires are a good value. I have 295/30/19 rears and they hold better than my old Toyo t1r's. How much better? Not an extreme amount, but they are a lot less to buy.

On a side note, this car looks bad *** in person. Black AP's, and some pretty rare Volks looked amazing in person.

I have LE37 in 22, fenders rolled, and car dropped about 1.5" with no rub. I was running a little more camber than normal for Zdayz, but even at 1.3 they didn't rub.
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I need some tires soon, can someone please PM me the link, tire specs and price they are sold at?

Good/affordable tires are hard to come by where I am and I don't mind paying international postage...
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Old May 21, 2008 | 04:50 AM
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i guess i was the first and only one to have a negative review on these tires?
well they are not all that bad, but i would go with something else next time. i bought a pair of these (275/35/19) for my te37, after switching from toyo, i notice for the past 3k miles or so, my rear would loose traction and whip out during a turn when i dont want it too more often then i did with my toyos. guess noise level, coasting or whatever its still good, and for new tires these are at a good price, but for performance i wasnt satisfied. when it comes to grip, i would say 8/10 hard turns i loose traction and have my back whip out to far.. when i had toyos, i didnt have a problem with that.
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Originally Posted by VQdriver
what made you choose those tires?
Cost, other favorable reviews and availability in the sizes I was looking for. I really didn't want to drop $1500 for PS2's right now. I figured at worst, I run them for a season, end up hating them, then take them off. So far, I've been pretty happy with them. I"ll reevaluate at the end of the year to see how I feel then. They might have significant drop off in road noise, wet grip, etc... after 5,10,15k miles, like the stock RE050A's did.
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I saw a G35 with these tires today. I would have asked the driver for his opinions about them if he was there...
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