Why aren't we Scared?
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Why aren't we Scared?
I just picked up the latest Motortrend to read the article about the Trailblazer SS. The effing SUV is faster stock, than our Zs, not to mention it is the same price, and can seat 5, carry a bunch of crap, and did I mention will respond easier to mods?
What the hell is Nissan going to do about this? Why do we own Zs if we can get a BETTER vehicle for the same price? Sure, the Z is sexy as hell, but damn, how many times have you had to borrow a buddy's truck, or rent your own, or just OWN another? Now you can do anything you could do In a Z, in something that can tow a trailer.
The Z is kind of dying! The WRX is getting faster, the Corvette is MUCH faster for just a tad more money, the M3 is getting faster, Porsches are getting faster, THE EFFING EVO, STi, Lotus, etc
I seriously cant think of one car the Z will beat as a sports car V sports car!
It must be a dying breed, the Z. For the next generation, its getting heavier, more cushy, SLOWER, and there isnt a damn thing we, the owners/consumers can do about it.
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What the hell is Nissan going to do about this? Why do we own Zs if we can get a BETTER vehicle for the same price? Sure, the Z is sexy as hell, but damn, how many times have you had to borrow a buddy's truck, or rent your own, or just OWN another? Now you can do anything you could do In a Z, in something that can tow a trailer.
The Z is kind of dying! The WRX is getting faster, the Corvette is MUCH faster for just a tad more money, the M3 is getting faster, Porsches are getting faster, THE EFFING EVO, STi, Lotus, etc
I seriously cant think of one car the Z will beat as a sports car V sports car!
It must be a dying breed, the Z. For the next generation, its getting heavier, more cushy, SLOWER, and there isnt a damn thing we, the owners/consumers can do about it.
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good choice. And I forgot to add:
Chrysler 300C SRT-8
Dodge Magnum SRT-8
Carry more people, more stuff, just as fast/faster, same price
sorry: SRT-4 with few mods too
AUGH,
And the Faster Cheaper Mustang GT
Chrysler 300C SRT-8
Dodge Magnum SRT-8
Carry more people, more stuff, just as fast/faster, same price
sorry: SRT-4 with few mods too
AUGH,
And the Faster Cheaper Mustang GT
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i dunno... I beat a wrx yesterday easy at 130 mph. Acceleration was pretty equal until 100. I've beat gtr's, A4's etc etc. The cornering ability in the Z is amazing, it's sexy and it easily reaches 150 mph without struggle. I love it man. Although ski season is coming soon, and I now have to get rides to the mountain instead of driving. But hey, if you want a truck.... by all means, get one. It is a truck, though.
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OMG! PANIC!!
how many SUVs out there with the same price tag and faster then a Z? Listen... you dont like the car, you like that new SUV...go trade your car for one, whats the problem? if its faster then a Z...its as fast as a stock M3, STI or EVO (or almost as fast)
Hey!! The owners of these cars (including Z owners) lets get together one day, go and get the damn Trailblazer!!! Your cars are dying, just coz a freakin SUV with a few mods can beat you!!
But you know...im not gonna do it. I bought a Z, simply because I like the Z, I like every freakin thing about it, a 287 hp engine, tire feathering, rattles...But I love it and Im not going to panic everytime some quick SUV from GM comes out.
I think you are a little underestimating our cars...
how many SUVs out there with the same price tag and faster then a Z? Listen... you dont like the car, you like that new SUV...go trade your car for one, whats the problem? if its faster then a Z...its as fast as a stock M3, STI or EVO (or almost as fast)
Hey!! The owners of these cars (including Z owners) lets get together one day, go and get the damn Trailblazer!!! Your cars are dying, just coz a freakin SUV with a few mods can beat you!!
But you know...im not gonna do it. I bought a Z, simply because I like the Z, I like every freakin thing about it, a 287 hp engine, tire feathering, rattles...But I love it and Im not going to panic everytime some quick SUV from GM comes out.
I think you are a little underestimating our cars...
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the thing is, all the stuff you just mentioned can be done better, faster, cheaper, or more practically.
Beating a WRX is no biggie, but imagine the fact that the WRX costs a few thousand less, and with 1K in mods, will spank any more expensive Z. GTRs...Skyline GTRs? What? explain that one, but and A4 is a little POS bottom-barrel Audi. Good job beating that car that doesnt even try to be sporty.
And the cornering ability of the Z is pretty...humdrum. It still oversteers, and is heavy, and has ****ty tires and wheels... Not to mention that the engine is pretty much a comy/paste from EVERYTHING else in the damn Nissan lineup.
Beating a WRX is no biggie, but imagine the fact that the WRX costs a few thousand less, and with 1K in mods, will spank any more expensive Z. GTRs...Skyline GTRs? What? explain that one, but and A4 is a little POS bottom-barrel Audi. Good job beating that car that doesnt even try to be sporty.
And the cornering ability of the Z is pretty...humdrum. It still oversteers, and is heavy, and has ****ty tires and wheels... Not to mention that the engine is pretty much a comy/paste from EVERYTHING else in the damn Nissan lineup.
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When are you guys going to realize that speed is not the cure all for everything. The Z has always been a sports car for the masses. It offers styling, performance, decent gas mileage, 6 cylinders, good handling for a very competitive price. The Vette is a 55k chevy, the WRX is a souped up econobox, M3's are 55-60K, a new Boxster S will run over 60K loaded. So stop the whining are just enjoy the car for what it is not what you want it to be.
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a used 350z was the best I could afford. I love the look of the car and that's the biggest reason why I got it. I love power but when do I really get to turn it loose? cars and technology will continue to get better. I'm happy with my z
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They're Chevy's and Fords ... I'm not worried. I didn't buy the fasted car - I could have got the Pontac GTO for 10G less with 100 HP more ... and it's butt ugly. I hope this isn't a news flash but the Z isn't the fastest car out there!
I test drove the Audi TT, Corvette, Porsche Carrera, and Boxster S. Plenty of others I didn't even bother to drive.
I test drove the Audi TT, Corvette, Porsche Carrera, and Boxster S. Plenty of others I didn't even bother to drive.
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Originally Posted by SekZee
OMG! PANIC!!
how many SUVs out there with the same price tag and faster then a Z? Listen... you dont like the car, you like that new SUV...go trade your car for one, whats the problem? if its faster then a Z...its as fast as a stock M3, STI or EVO (or almost as fast)
Hey!! The owners of these cars (including Z owners) lets get together one day, go and get the damn Trailblazer!!! Your cars are dying, just coz a freakin SUV with a few mods can beat you!!
But you know...im not gonna do it. I bought a Z, simply because I like the Z, I like every freakin thing about it, a 287 hp engine, tire feathering, rattles...But I love it and Im not going to panic everytime some quick SUV from GM comes out.
I think you are a little underestimating our cars...
how many SUVs out there with the same price tag and faster then a Z? Listen... you dont like the car, you like that new SUV...go trade your car for one, whats the problem? if its faster then a Z...its as fast as a stock M3, STI or EVO (or almost as fast)
Hey!! The owners of these cars (including Z owners) lets get together one day, go and get the damn Trailblazer!!! Your cars are dying, just coz a freakin SUV with a few mods can beat you!!
But you know...im not gonna do it. I bought a Z, simply because I like the Z, I like every freakin thing about it, a 287 hp engine, tire feathering, rattles...But I love it and Im not going to panic everytime some quick SUV from GM comes out.
I think you are a little underestimating our cars...
How am I underestimating things? It may seem a little SKY IS FALLING, but look at it, seriously look at it. What does the Z compete against? Come on? What does it compete against? What does it WIN against?
I think that pondering on that will keep you up at night....
or not, but do think about it
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So don't own a Sports Car
Originally Posted by axxizzer
I just picked up the latest Motortrend to read the article about the Trailblazer SS. The effing SUV is faster stock, than our Zs, not to mention it is the same price, and can seat 5, carry a bunch of crap, and did I mention will respond easier to mods?
What the hell is Nissan going to do about this?
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What the hell is Nissan going to do about this?
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Buy the 400 HP GTO or the 6 Liter Hemi Dodge Charger if you want fast.
Why should Nissan do anything? You are comparing apples to quacamole.
Heck, I can buy that SRT SUV from Dodge with a 500 horsepower engine that goes about 150mph and can get to 60 in around 5 seconds but SO WHAT.
It is not a Sports Car
I have my GMC Canyon P/U to use for hauling my boat or whatever and the Z gets to stay in showroom shape.
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Originally Posted by axxizzer
How am I underestimating things? It may seem a little SKY IS FALLING, but look at it, seriously look at it. What does the Z compete against? Come on? What does it compete against? What does it WIN against?
I think that pondering on that will keep you up at night....
or not, but do think about it
I think that pondering on that will keep you up at night....
or not, but do think about it
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Originally Posted by azjimbo
When are you guys going to realize that speed is not the cure all for everything. The Z has always been a sports car for the masses. It offers styling, performance, decent gas mileage, 6 cylinders, good handling for a very competitive price. The Vette is a 55k chevy, the WRX is a souped up econobox, M3's are 55-60K, a new Boxster S will run over 60K loaded. So stop the whining are just enjoy the car for what it is not what you want it to be.
So basically what youre saying is that you will settle for a Z because you like the history, and the GAS MILEAGE??
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I can admit that the Z is fast enough for me... even stock. I know all the FI guys say how slow the stock Z is and for them I bet it is, however I rarely find myself at WOT anyway so I really don't think I need a faster car. I never go to the 1/4 mile track and I don't go around looking for street races (esp not against SUV's).
If you wanted to buy the car with the fastest straight line speed for the best price you wouldn't have gotten a Z in the first place so you shouldn't freak out when faster cars come out.
When I picked the Z over the other cars I was looking at I didn't even look at 1/4 mile times. I test drove all the cars I was interested in and I picked the one I liked the most. I had no idea people were getting stock Z's into the low 14's high 13's till about a week after I bought the car.
If you wanted to buy the car with the fastest straight line speed for the best price you wouldn't have gotten a Z in the first place so you shouldn't freak out when faster cars come out.
When I picked the Z over the other cars I was looking at I didn't even look at 1/4 mile times. I test drove all the cars I was interested in and I picked the one I liked the most. I had no idea people were getting stock Z's into the low 14's high 13's till about a week after I bought the car.
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I was just reading about a 2006 carrera 4... nice car, expensive... 0-60 in 5.0 seconds... and a Z is like..5.1-5.2? hmm.. I think a Z wins here... at least it wins for someone who's in their 20s, still going to school, while working full time and can afford a 30k car...
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Dude sell your z and get off the board. We like our Z's. Go and buy any car you can think of and I will find one better. I bet you anything that in 5 years my Z will be faster than any trailblazer you buy today because my car will still run in 5 years and that american piece of crap won't be.
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Lol I promise you if i had a stock Z i would slaughter that car.... They rated the magnum at 14.1 aaaaa i ran a 13.7 stock OEM!!!! ITs all about driving the Z is fast as hell. And if your forgetting the Z is faster than any other oem v-6 car in the US!!!!
Those SS stats are so inflated ITS BS. Plus do you want a soccer mom car or a car that turns heads where ever you go?
You make the choice
SHIFT_ Z
OH and i ALMOST FORGOT I BEAT A VIPER TODAY... I AM NOT SACRED I thought that was a monster V-8 should i be scared now!!! Oh wait my V-6 beat it!!!!
THis thread is a JOKE, when i was bolt on I never lost to a stage 1 with all bolt ons and all other srt crap. If you read the forums, you will learn with a couple of bolt ons and driving lessons you will run 13.1 OOOO now wheres the srt's at and the Ss, THEY ARE LOOKING AT OUR FINE REAR ENDS.
13.1= ALberto lol great run
+1 if you want it so bad, sell your Z and leave the forums
Those SS stats are so inflated ITS BS. Plus do you want a soccer mom car or a car that turns heads where ever you go?
You make the choice
SHIFT_ Z
OH and i ALMOST FORGOT I BEAT A VIPER TODAY... I AM NOT SACRED I thought that was a monster V-8 should i be scared now!!! Oh wait my V-6 beat it!!!!
THis thread is a JOKE, when i was bolt on I never lost to a stage 1 with all bolt ons and all other srt crap. If you read the forums, you will learn with a couple of bolt ons and driving lessons you will run 13.1 OOOO now wheres the srt's at and the Ss, THEY ARE LOOKING AT OUR FINE REAR ENDS.
13.1= ALberto lol great run
+1 if you want it so bad, sell your Z and leave the forums
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