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Old 07-22-2014, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronin82
most of the time, headers will make you lose "hp",... on the flipside you feel a an increase in low RPM torque. especially first 3 gears.
Are you including long tube headers in that statement as well?
Old 07-22-2014, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bellisima_Z
If your talking about boost... then no, I have no plans to add forced induction. Just trying to get the most gains with what NIssan gave me

Why? What did you have in mind?
If you're looking for more gains without FI, pretty much what trave said plus a clutch and lightweight flywheel and lightweight pulleys. I don't think there's anything else we can do without throwing in a set of cams.
Old 07-22-2014, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jah70
Trav at 252 at the most, Terramask at the most at 260, Bmurray at 265 and me and Jerz350 at 255. Care to place your bets gents? Or the winner or one closest to the average dyno gets free homemade pancakes at the courtesy of Anthony Giambri's mom.
I better get some of these pancakes too!!! Lol
Old 07-22-2014, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Norman
If you're looking for more gains without FI, pretty much what trave said plus a clutch and lightweight flywheel and lightweight pulleys. I don't think there's anything else we can do without throwing in a set of cams.
Awesome! Thanks for the input putting them on my list as we speak! What would be your best guess on whp after all that's done? (minus the cams)

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Old 07-22-2014, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bellisima_Z
Awesome! Thanks for the input putting them on my list as we speak! What would be your best guess on whp after all that's done? (minus the cams)
That's why I made this thread my guess would be 250-260 whp but I've seen ppl on here make 260-270 with less mods than us we might get lucky lol. It depends on the dyno. The pulleys might show some numbers on the dyno but the flywheel won't. Those two make the car rev a lot faster though. We both have the same mods minus the headers and cams so your guess is as good as mine.
Old 07-23-2014, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by travlee9374
i wouldnt hold your breath too much.... that is kinda high miles.
Mine only has 31,000 miles on it. I'm assuming by your comment that that's a plus.
How much of a difference could it realistically make?
Old 07-23-2014, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jah70
Oh stop ***** footing around and toss a number in the air Lol.
Haha gotta have all my gamble facts in order!
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243
Price is right rules?

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Old 07-23-2014, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Bellisima_Z
Are you including long tube headers in that statement as well?
honestly I have no personal experience with long tube headers so I could be wrong. But what I have seen and expeirnced with most exhaust manifolds was a loss in "hp" but a gain in torque #'s
Old 07-23-2014, 07:12 AM
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official list - if you want to add to it... copy and paste then add yours

Trav - 252
Terramask - 260
Bmurray - 265
Jah / Jerz350 - 255
gabez33 - 254
bellisima - 256
iideadeyeii - 243
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Originally Posted by Norman
That's why I made this thread my guess would be 250-260 whp but I've seen ppl on here make 260-270 with less mods than us we might get lucky lol. It depends on the dyno. The pulleys might show some numbers on the dyno but the flywheel won't. Those two make the car rev a lot faster though. We both have the same mods minus the headers and cams so your guess is as good as mine.
Pulley/Flywheel/Clutch on make improved driving. Not power.

With an aggressive tune minus cams+ full intake/exhaust
Dyno jet/Mustang Dyno..... maybe 270WHP. give or take a little.
A SuperFlow, Maybe........ 288-ish whp.

subrtract 5-10 "hp" with headers.

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Old 07-23-2014, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronin82
Pulley/Flywheel/Clutch on make improved driving. Not power.

With an aggressive tune minus cams+ full intake/exhaust
Dyno jet/Mustang Dyno..... maybe 270WHP. give or take a little.
A SuperFlow, Maybe........ 288-ish whp.

subrtract 5-10 "hp" with headers.
you are smokin something, my HR will full bolt ons hit 286 on a mustang
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Originally Posted by travlee9374
you are smokin something, my HR will full bolt ons hit 286 on a mustang
I just went back and looked. I dont think he'll be tuned when he Dyno's.

so probably.....
dyno Jet/mustang dyno= 255-ish at best.
Super flow= 270ish

Different measurements for different dyno's
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Since you plan on going FI, forget the short ram intake and just pick up a drop in filter for now. Some kits come with a pulley kit too. So you can remove that from the list depending on what kit you will be getting.

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Totally price is right rules. I'm going with 249!
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Trav - 252
Terramask - 260
Bmurray - 265
Jah / Jerz350 / ronin - 255
gabez33 - 254
bellisima - 256
iideadeyeii - 243
ksuberk - 249
Old 07-23-2014, 01:39 PM
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on my 05 touring MT at around 100k miles (at a little over 114k right now) it made around 278 whp, 265 ft/lbs torque on a dynapack with UpRev. not sure how the dynapack compares to other ones though.

modifications at that time were (also current):

Injen SRI with heat shield
Motordyne 5/16" plenum spacer
Motordyne MREV2 lower plenum
Stillen Headers
Berk 2.5" Test pipes
HKS true dual Catback
255lph walboro fuel pump
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dynapack read high
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287 on a dynojet for me

'05 DE
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Originally Posted by zswickliffe
287 on a dynojet for me

'05 DE
I think your confusing the stock numbers you read from the flywheel in the brochure.


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