Bellisima_Z

RUNWDVL

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You know you want to..,

92K1500

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Bellisima_Z

Soooo badly, u have have no idea.

turboed350z

Do it....

Melloyellow

We'll once again this site was completely useless

travlee

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kinda l like your car will be when you do this

92K1500

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turboed350z

You get a cookie!

Bellisima_Z

Phenom

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This doesn't make much sense to me. Isn't extreme negative camber only an issue when it minimizes the contact patch to a dangerous level?

If I have fresh, high quality summer tires, let's say 255's, with just enough camber to be illegal, is it any unsafer than some piece of crap econobox with some 155mm wide budget tires on it at factory camber? Unless I'm at ridiculously overboard camber settings, the high negative camber setup with beefier tires will have more contact patch than some other vehicles out there. The legality should be dependent on contact patch, not camber angle

Just for the record, I'm not one of these camberqueers. I'm a fan of functional setups within factory spec and/or track oriented setups with proper fitting tires as evident by my own personal setup. Just making this argument in the interest of logic.

turboed350z

I get where you're coming from, but with camber like the one in the pic, you have side wall issues, you have steering response issue, assuming the front is camber the same. To me, that much camber should be illegal. It's not just contact patch, but the thread design has an enfluince on the handling characteristic of it.

Phenom

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I think the sidewall issue is more a function of tire width relative to wheel width (ie how stretched the tire is), which should be illegal at a certain point. However this factor wouldn't be indicated by simply measuring camber angle. I agree with the principle that these law enforcement agencies have who are targeting the hellaflush crowd, but I think they are addressing it wrong. They should be focusing on tire stretch more than camber to be honest.

turboed350z

Well having the tire sits like that, I would imagine that it's adding extra stress in the side wall.

92K1500

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Wheel bearings are also not designed to support weight at that angle.

mrfobbyaccent

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guaranteed spc, or ichiba can help you achieve close to -10 i'm running about -7.5 on my ichiba arm and I still have loads of room left to go negative.

And your natural camber may look like its -3 to you because all the cars now run -8 and above but trust it is probably around -5 through -6

terrasmak

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Don't forget about vehicle weight and tire load.

craig12895

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Logically, even if it doesn't harm anything or cause safety issues why would you still want to do it?
Just because it doesn't cause safety issues doesn't mean you don't look like a jacka$$.

Phenom

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True true. All good points.

Phenom

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I imagine it's because if their car isn't fast and/or they aren't good enough of a driver to use their car effectively on the track, they do whatever they can to get as much attention as possible.