**3.3 Final Drive Installed-Review**
06-21-2007, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
No offense bro (wa2good) but that dyno I assume JWT's is on crack. Show me a 800whp Dynojet or even 700whp and I'll believe it.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....bumble+bee+vrt
Hahahaha, not again.......Been through this too many times before, and I WILL NOT debate this with you or anybody else anymore. If you wanna call Jim Wolf a liar and say their dyno is not accurate you go right ahead LOL.
Believe what you want, but we have and so have many others (time and time again) gone straight from JWT's DynaPack with a car fresh off the dyno and went straight to The Dyno Shop, just 5-10 miles away and dynoed 30-60 minutes later on their Dyno Jet........ Same car, same boost, same gas, very similer numbers, different dyno's and shops alltogether.
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06-21-2007, 08:35 AM
#122
Originally Posted by Alberto
I like the stock diff, it works well, and isnt noisy. Until I blow it/ruin it racing I wont upgrade. Ive cut 1.7 60ft's with it launching conservatively, what has spending $$$ on a Quaife gotten you at the track?
06-21-2007, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....nt+dyno+sheets
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....bumble+bee+vrt
Hahahaha, not again.......Been through this too many times before, and I WILL NOT debate this with you or anybody else anymore. If you wanna call Jim Wolf a liar and say their dyno is not accurate you go right ahead LOL.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....bumble+bee+vrt
Hahahaha, not again.......Been through this too many times before, and I WILL NOT debate this with you or anybody else anymore. If you wanna call Jim Wolf a liar and say their dyno is not accurate you go right ahead LOL.
06-21-2007, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by helldorado
If the only value you see in a diff is using it to launch in a straight line with a set of DR's, then there's no need to worry about it.
06-21-2007, 08:59 AM
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I had the stock diff and went with a nismo and felt a tremendous difference in grip in a straight line and cornering. The car no longer fishtailed sideways like it did with the stock VLSD - not saying the nismo is the best or anything, it isn't but just saying I wasn't expecting much difference with an aftermarket diff and it ended up being a night/day difference compared to the stock one
06-21-2007, 09:05 AM
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^^^ Yes, Although the stock VCS & TCS on these cars are a BIG help over the base open diff, an LSD is one of those things that you don't realy know what you are missing untill you have had one.
06-21-2007, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
^^^ Yes, Although the stock VCS & TCS on these cars are a BIG help over the base open diff, an LSD is one of those things that you don't realy know what you are missing untill you have had one.
When is your web site going to be up??
06-21-2007, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
Correct me if I am wrong, but I was just told that you cannot run an aftermarket LSD like the ATS with 3.3?? Are you planning on going out with a stock VCS/TCS??
06-21-2007, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
Correct me if I am wrong, but I was just told that you cannot run an aftermarket LSD like the ATS with 3.3??
Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
Are you planning on going out with a stock VCS/TCS??
Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
When is your web site going to be up??
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06-21-2007, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
Sweet! Jim is sending me those BB850's with my kit, however we are going with a bigger FMIC. Hopefully the car will be ready for the "redline time attack in RA" .
IYO you think the 3.3 is going to be the way to go on the road course? Well I hope so, cuz I have one ready to put in with ATS LSD.
IYO you think the 3.3 is going to be the way to go on the road course? Well I hope so, cuz I have one ready to put in with ATS LSD.
06-21-2007, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Ask Sharif if you dont believe me Luie, he tried putting Brent's ATS LSD into a 3.3 FD pumpkin and it wouldnt fit
06-21-2007, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
Then stand corrected, Hahaha. Yea, I was told that too, but my diff guy and sponsor (Pro Gear) is the best in the buisness, thats ALL they do and they got mine to work.
PM me if you feel the need to?/
06-21-2007, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
Well then what do I need to do to get my ATS in that 3.3??
PM me if you feel the need to?/
PM me if you feel the need to?/
06-21-2007, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Quaife and Cuzco I believe work with the 3.3FD/pumpkin...
Not having my car sucks!
06-21-2007, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Do you road course? Ive never felt (when pushing the car hard in corners) that my stock diff wasnt adequate coming out of turns applying the power.
Its an expensive mod, but I feel its worthwhile. I've been able to appreciate it NA, I couldn't imagine not having it when I go FI.
Once I get my new wheels on so I can mount my AP's, I'm planning on doing a couple auto-x events and hopefully an event at Pocono my friend is setting up this summer. So we'll see how it does there. But stock brakes...
06-21-2007, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
Well then what do I need to do to get my ATS in that 3.3??
PM me if you feel the need to?/
PM me if you feel the need to?/
You can make a diff designed for a 3.3 work on the 3.5 by using a machined 10 mm spacer, but you'd have to trim 10 mm off the mounting flange of a 3.5 diff to make it fit properly with the 3.3.
I'm assuming Scott used the 3.3 Cusco diff, not the one designed for the 3.5. Putting the 3.3 ring gear with a matching diff is feasible in a 3.5 pumpkin. Trying to make a 3.3 ring gear with a 3.5 diff in a 3.3 or 3.5 pumpkin is not.
Originally Posted by Alberto
Quaife and Cuzco I believe work with the 3.3FD/pumpkin...
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06-21-2007, 11:20 AM
#138
Originally Posted by helldorado
I've found a noticable difference with the Quaife over stock. On the roads I've pushed the car on, including the dragon I can accelerate earlier coming out of the turn with the Quaife vs when I just had VLSD. Its really on the sharper turns where you feel it, when you're really shifting weight off the inside rear tire. I had a couple times where the car got squirrely seeing how hard I could push it on some of the back roads in the pine barrens. Since the Quaife, I've been able to take them faster and it stays very planted.
Its an expensive mod, but I feel its worthwhile. I've been able to appreciate it NA, I couldn't imagine not having it when I go FI.
Once I get my new wheels on so I can mount my AP's, I'm planning on doing a couple auto-x events and hopefully an event at Pocono my friend is setting up this summer. So we'll see how it does there. But stock brakes...
Its an expensive mod, but I feel its worthwhile. I've been able to appreciate it NA, I couldn't imagine not having it when I go FI.
Once I get my new wheels on so I can mount my AP's, I'm planning on doing a couple auto-x events and hopefully an event at Pocono my friend is setting up this summer. So we'll see how it does there. But stock brakes...
06-21-2007, 12:46 PM
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ATS/carbonetics said on their website at one point it doesn't work with anything but the 3.5 FD or at least that's how it was designed.
I think I remember Sharif saying his shop used a 3.9 FD with it and the installer said he'll never do one again because it was pretty difficult.
I think I remember Sharif saying his shop used a 3.9 FD with it and the installer said he'll never do one again because it was pretty difficult.
07-09-2007, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by helldorado
You're not, the 3.3 ring ring gear on the 3.3 is physically 10 mm thicker than the 3.5 ring gear. Do a search for when the Quaife first came out. They made a mistake and their initial release was designed solely for the 3.3 open diff.
You can make a diff designed for a 3.3 work on the 3.5 by using a machined 10 mm spacer, but you'd have to trim 10 mm off the mounting flange of a 3.5 diff to make it fit properly with the 3.3.
I'm assuming Scott used the 3.3 Cusco diff, not the one designed for the 3.5. Putting the 3.3 ring gear with a matching diff is feasible in a 3.5 pumpkin. Trying to make a 3.3 ring gear with a 3.5 diff in a 3.3 or 3.5 pumpkin is not.
That is correct. Caveat is the Quaife is designed as a replacement for the open diff, Cusco VLSD. So you need the appropriate axle stubs.
You can make a diff designed for a 3.3 work on the 3.5 by using a machined 10 mm spacer, but you'd have to trim 10 mm off the mounting flange of a 3.5 diff to make it fit properly with the 3.3.
I'm assuming Scott used the 3.3 Cusco diff, not the one designed for the 3.5. Putting the 3.3 ring gear with a matching diff is feasible in a 3.5 pumpkin. Trying to make a 3.3 ring gear with a 3.5 diff in a 3.3 or 3.5 pumpkin is not.
That is correct. Caveat is the Quaife is designed as a replacement for the open diff, Cusco VLSD. So you need the appropriate axle stubs.