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Old 06-27-2008, 01:06 PM
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I kinda had a question about my fronts. I have a +17 front and +24 rear with my fenders full rolled and a mild drop. I run 295 rears and i think for my next setup im goign to keep it. However for the front I would like to run a wider tire. The 255/35 seems to stick out a lot but most people say that on a +17 it should be flush. I was wondering if i could fit a 265/30 or 275/30 in the front? Drop is 2 fingers fender gap btw. thx
Old 06-28-2008, 11:29 AM
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Jet in a previous post you recommended me away from the 295 or 305 rear

Now I see pictures of a car in this post running similar offset and the big tires.
Did I miss something?
The pics seem to contradict what you previously recommend.

I value your opinion as you post alot on the boards.
Can you help me to understand why you recommened that I stay away from a 295 or 305 rear with a +15mm offset?

I'm a beginner at this stuff; so please don't take any offense.
Thanks in advance for the response.

Nitrouz can you tell us what your running for front tires?

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Old 06-28-2008, 12:15 PM
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For those of you posting pictures of your setups you might also want to clearly state what brand and model tire you are running as that makes a huge difference as well.

For instance in these pictures the tire on the right is the Pirelli P zero in a 305/30-19 on the left is a Michelin PS2 size 295/30-19 both on 19X11.5 inch rims from CCW. As you can see huge difference..



Old 06-28-2008, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
he 255 305 combo you suggested your car will understeer like a school bus.
I've always wondered about this. I was thinking about going with a 255/35/19 and 295/30/19 setup, but the 40mm tread difference made me think about thep ossibility of increased understeer. Would running a staggered difference of 40mm make a real noticable handling difference?
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Originally Posted by DallasZ
Nitrouz can you tell us what your running for front tires?
my tires:

Front: 235/35/19
rear: 295/30/19

Toyo R888 front and rear.

R888 does not come in 19's between 235 and 295, so I had to go with 235. I would have gone with a 265 or 275 if they had them.

R888's run about 10mm wider than the number...fyi.
Old 06-28-2008, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by aloh
I've always wondered about this. I was thinking about going with a 255/35/19 and 295/30/19 setup, but the 40mm tread difference made me think about thep ossibility of increased understeer. Would running a staggered difference of 40mm make a real noticable handling difference?
i ran 265/30/19 and 305/30/19 at homestead last month (street tires/re050a pp) and it was very neutral. it's just not the tires its your entire suspension set up: alignment, tire pressures, etc .
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Originally Posted by Nitrouz
my tires:

Front: 235/35/19
rear: 295/30/19

Toyo R888 front and rear.

R888 does not come in 19's between 235 and 295, so I had to go with 235. I would have gone with a 265 or 275 if they had them.

R888's run about 10mm wider than the number...fyi.
Alex...any major diff in handling between this tire setup vs. your old one other than more traction ?...any additional compensations in handling ?
Old 06-28-2008, 06:25 PM
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Nitrouz thanks for the info on your tire setup.

I noticed in the pictures you posted with the R888 tires that they stuck out a little past the fender.
Seeing you pics tells me the 295 R888 is the way to go; but..

I'm concerned that if I go with this size that will hit the fender when I go over bumps.
Is that happening to you? Thanks in advance.
Old 06-28-2008, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Crom
Alex...any major diff in handling between this tire setup vs. your old one other than more traction ?...any additional compensations in handling ?
it handles noticeably better. Crisper turn in, and holds the corner a lot better. Then again, I haven't taken it to the track where I can push the limits of a corner yet...but my impressions are just the initial try of these tires on the streets.
Old 06-28-2008, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DallasZ
Nitrouz thanks for the info on your tire setup.

I noticed in the pictures you posted with the R888 tires that they stuck out a little past the fender.
Seeing you pics tells me the 295 R888 is the way to go; but..

I'm concerned that if I go with this size that will hit the fender when I go over bumps.
Is that happening to you? Thanks in advance.
My rear fenders are cut, and it does not hit the tire through bumps or high speed corners...
Old 06-29-2008, 02:14 AM
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thats ridiculous, how is anyone supposed to choose tyres based on size if there is so much frikken different between the different manufacturer.. ..



Originally Posted by Kwame@z1
For those of you posting pictures of your setups you might also want to clearly state what brand and model tire you are running as that makes a huge difference as well.

For instance in these pictures the tire on the right is the Pirelli P zero in a 305/30-19 on the left is a Michelin PS2 size 295/30-19 both on 19X11.5 inch rims from CCW. As you can see huge difference..



Old 06-29-2008, 09:26 AM
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When you size a tire they are telling you the tread width. Overall width is something else. Manufacturers give you all that info on their websites. You should check the overall width before buying.
Old 06-29-2008, 10:37 AM
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its true...and that pic of the PZero is pretty accurate.. Im using tires from my friends M3...and well...they are PZeros, same size as the ones I had before, but they look super stretched.
Old 06-29-2008, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Nitrouz
My rear fenders are cut, and it does not hit the tire through bumps or high speed corners...
Thanks..
Old 06-29-2008, 11:20 AM
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Nitrouz thanks again; couple more questions then I'll leave you alone.....

1. The caveman in me wants better, faster, stronger, more more more.
I think you get the point.
With that said do you think you could have gotten the 305 R888 to work? I'm ready to cut/roll the fenders.

2. My rims are a +15 offset; after seeing your pictures I am set on 295 rears at a minimum; if I need more of an offset can I use a spacer? I can't return the rims at this point and want to go as wide as possible.

3. Since you have experience with the R888 how wide do you think I can go in the front? Front rims are +15 offset as well; 18" so I have more size choices then you had with the 19" setup. Nothing crazy on my suspension setup; Eibach Pro 1" drop springs.

Thank you again for the help. Much appreciated.
Old 06-29-2008, 11:42 AM
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nice rubbers
Old 06-29-2008, 11:42 AM
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if I had 18's front, I'd go 275/35/18 in the front.

As for the rear, you can fit a 305...but you really don't want to add another spacer with your +15 rims unless you are going with a thinner rear tire such as a 245 or something for that stretched drifting look...

But with a 305 in the rear with your offset, be prepared to run -3 degree camber or more.
Old 06-29-2008, 12:39 PM
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Dallas you keep asking the same question over and over again. I keep giving you answers, but you just don't like them.

In reality the sh*t people say "fits" doesn't. Get out to a meet and see some of these low offset 10.5" wheels with reduced diameter and stretched tires and -3.0 camber to get them to "fit". That's not what I consider fittting. If you put the right size tires on 10.5" +15 rims and lower the car they won't FIT. A 10.5" tire takes a 295/305/315 tire. Not a 275.

Flame suit on.
Old 06-29-2008, 12:50 PM
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I think at lest 90% of modified Z owners w/ a 10.5 rear run 275/285, with normal camber settings, anything more than that is considered aggressive and more $$...
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Nitrosz you are the man!
Thank you so much for the accurate information I've been looking for.

Can you help me to understand the "downsides" of a -3 camber on the rear?
I am ready to sign up for the "tire wear" of the R888 plus the roll/cut.
Will I need to install some kind of camber kit to get to -3?
If so can you recommend one?
Since I already know they are going to wear quickly will the camber just add to the wear. Are there any downsides to running the -3 camber?

Does - camber effect the performance of the tires in a positive/negative way?

Also are you happy with the 295 R888 from a traction perspective?
I'm nowhere as "extreme" as your setup but I'm putting down 472rwhp and I want the most traction I can get.

I've invested in the built 8.5:1 motor/turbo/F-con/quaife plus install by an expert, the only missing ingredient at this point is the traction.

Thanks again.

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