Good buy or was i taken By Dealer..??
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heya I was skepticle about the deal i got but i had to go 2 hrs away to find the Z i wanted....
I bought:
03' performance 6sp, blue, 1600 mi.
options: bose, VDC, alum. sills, aero package, TPS, nimo mats,
Pwr/heat seats, Tint, no recalls,
this cost me $28,900 *pic**
and 2hrs drive heh
honest opinions.???
I bought:
03' performance 6sp, blue, 1600 mi.
options: bose, VDC, alum. sills, aero package, TPS, nimo mats,
Pwr/heat seats, Tint, no recalls,
this cost me $28,900 *pic**
and 2hrs drive heh
honest opinions.???
The grass is always greener on the other side.
If you did your research before hand into the pricing on the car in your area, and at the time you felt you were getting a good deal, then you probably were imho.
After you buy something, you will ALWAYS find one cheaper, or hear about it being cheaper from someone.
It sucks, I know =P
But whats important is if you enjoy the car.
I bought mine in mid 2003, I didn't pay the lowest, and I didn't pay the highest. But the service the sales guy gave me was WORTH paying practically MSRP at the time.
I mean, the guy did all the paperwork, gave me an awesome deal on my trade in, got me the exact model/make/trim/options that I specified, in less than 2 weeks, picked up my old car at my work, and dropped off my new Z at the same time.
(Little Tokyo Sales and Leasing btw...)
I paid after tax, $37,000 for a Touring with side airbags, Nav and Aero package. The guy threw in the seat back organizer, mats and cargo netting for free... oh yeah, and The Run dvd =P
If you did your research before hand into the pricing on the car in your area, and at the time you felt you were getting a good deal, then you probably were imho.
After you buy something, you will ALWAYS find one cheaper, or hear about it being cheaper from someone.
It sucks, I know =P
But whats important is if you enjoy the car.
I bought mine in mid 2003, I didn't pay the lowest, and I didn't pay the highest. But the service the sales guy gave me was WORTH paying practically MSRP at the time.
I mean, the guy did all the paperwork, gave me an awesome deal on my trade in, got me the exact model/make/trim/options that I specified, in less than 2 weeks, picked up my old car at my work, and dropped off my new Z at the same time.
(Little Tokyo Sales and Leasing btw...)
I paid after tax, $37,000 for a Touring with side airbags, Nav and Aero package. The guy threw in the seat back organizer, mats and cargo netting for free... oh yeah, and The Run dvd =P
This isn't a deal I would have done. Here's why:
1. You bought a car that is two years old.
2. You bought a first MY car with known issues (not this car necessarily, but the '03's in general)
3. You paid just $1,750 less than the MSRP on a brand new '05 Performance.
It's good that the car has low mileage, the downside is that feathering won't have surfaced yet if this car does have it.
As long as you're happy with the car, that's what really counts, but me personally, I would have saved my pennies for another month or two and bought new. You probably only have 18 or even fewer months left on the 36 month warranty despite the low mileage.
According to Kelley Blue Book, the private party resale-value on this car is roughly $27,200, but the dealer sales price was 30K and change. I just don't see it for a two year old car that sold new for almost the exact same price. I guess they were right when they said the Z holds it's value.
Again, if you're happy with it, it doesn't matter what any of us think. It's all about the fun!!! Enjoy.
1. You bought a car that is two years old.
2. You bought a first MY car with known issues (not this car necessarily, but the '03's in general)
3. You paid just $1,750 less than the MSRP on a brand new '05 Performance.
It's good that the car has low mileage, the downside is that feathering won't have surfaced yet if this car does have it.
As long as you're happy with the car, that's what really counts, but me personally, I would have saved my pennies for another month or two and bought new. You probably only have 18 or even fewer months left on the 36 month warranty despite the low mileage.
According to Kelley Blue Book, the private party resale-value on this car is roughly $27,200, but the dealer sales price was 30K and change. I just don't see it for a two year old car that sold new for almost the exact same price. I guess they were right when they said the Z holds it's value.
Again, if you're happy with it, it doesn't matter what any of us think. It's all about the fun!!! Enjoy.
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Fudge man. You're here in Portland too? We'll have to hook up. I've got a Super Black 03 Track.
I've seen prices vary a lot but here in Portland Z's are tough to come by. Dealers have them but not many and they aren't too willing to move them. If you're happy with the car, you got a decent deal.
Where'd you get yours? I went to Beaverton Nissan.
I've seen prices vary a lot but here in Portland Z's are tough to come by. Dealers have them but not many and they aren't too willing to move them. If you're happy with the car, you got a decent deal.
Where'd you get yours? I went to Beaverton Nissan.
Well you bought the car. If you're looking for a good deal then perhaps you're doing things slightly backwards. 
In the end if you paid what you could afford and got the car you want you should be happy.
I dont want to discourage you, but I would have gotten an 05 Enthusiast for about the same price.

In the end if you paid what you could afford and got the car you want you should be happy.
I dont want to discourage you, but I would have gotten an 05 Enthusiast for about the same price.
I don't think he got a bad deal. Definitely not a bargain, but it's a fair price. First of all it's only 04 so the car is only 1yr old...yes the new models are out, but dealers have plenty of 04s left. Second, the car only has 1600 miles...that's practically brand new. Third he bought from a dealer, so if he has a problem/issue he can always take it back. Lastly, he got a touring for almost $5k under the new price...that's not bad for a dealer car with 1600 miles.
As for the 03 vs 04 vs 05 stuff...it's all crap. 04.5 cars still have feathering. 05 cars have window issues. Even the newest tranny (008) continues to be notchy and clunk on the 1-2 shift. It saddens me that Nissan hasn't improved these flaws, but 04/05 owners need to realize that their cars are flawed as well.
NzZ
As for the 03 vs 04 vs 05 stuff...it's all crap. 04.5 cars still have feathering. 05 cars have window issues. Even the newest tranny (008) continues to be notchy and clunk on the 1-2 shift. It saddens me that Nissan hasn't improved these flaws, but 04/05 owners need to realize that their cars are flawed as well.
NzZ
Originally posted by NzZ
[B]I don't think he got a bad deal. Definitely not a bargain, but it's a fair price. First of all it's only 04 so the car is only 1yr old...yes the new models are out, but dealers have plenty of 04s left.
[B]I don't think he got a bad deal. Definitely not a bargain, but it's a fair price. First of all it's only 04 so the car is only 1yr old...yes the new models are out, but dealers have plenty of 04s left.
Second, the car only has 1600 miles...that's practically brand new.
Third he bought from a dealer, so if he has a problem/issue he can always take it back.
Lastly, he got a touring for almost $5k under the new price...that's not bad for a dealer car with 1600 miles.
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WOW im IMPREssED at all the responces so far good bad and ugly! forums like this are invaluable and provide an awesome service!ill try to adress All those who took the time to say something:
The rims: no, wheels are from my trade in,
and cost that was the end price there is no sales tax in oregon
and only DMV fee $30 plate transfer $13
Janus: my car MSRP $33,475 Private party $30,250 (kelly Blue book)
yours sounds excellent also! BUt I couldnt pay $37k or i would have goten somethin similar to yours, i needed the most i could find for my $$ in my area w/ option i wanted.thanks!
TTsUPRA94: thanx man Luv the supra TT also none arround here
King TuT: yes it was time well spent I hope....
Brick Rat:
KCObean: im aware of the problems you pointed out, however i have not seen any symptoms YET (hold my breath) of the known recalls/probs.
i know i could have got a new but lesser model, but i wanted the options that this came with and still extremely low miles and known history. The car came with 100k mile powertrain warranty With 6 more years bumper to bumper "wrap" $0 deductable. (Nissan warranty) cancelable anytime, just ran kelly book in my area see ubove..
Also everything i could find similar to mine cost allot more even as used with many more miles (part of reason i bought so far away) No Manulals!!
ZZTOP:
cobrask: Guyz, yea you guys are right, but thats not what salesman told me.:
homiusang:
Poison: well i guess that even better for value?
Masterfulks: yea ive been known to jump the gun and get excited, and go in reverse sometimes espically in cars, But it IS the one I WANT
and i wanted more equip than the Enth. gave for more $$ (in my area)
Nzz: Thanks 4 the support! all i have to say for the other "stuff" is
100k / 6yr bump to bump Nissan Cert. warranty!! 0 deduct.
KCobean: see warranty.. good ??
sales knew guy personaly drove weekends only, garaged other times,
didnt care for ride (older person) no offence to anyone
)
In My area most z' go for MSRP or slightly higher this i did research
almost all new ones i saw were over $37k and autos...
============================================================ =================
MAXIMXL:: DUDE YOU HAVE GOT TO GET AHOLD OF ME!!!! WE NEED TO HANG OUT!
I am co-capitan of a local team here for Road rally! we have over $20k in prize money next season, uniforms soon, Major sponsors ect.. BESIDES I KNOW YOUR CAR INTIMATLY WELL I USED TO OWN IT!!! WE NEED TO TALK
YOU MUST EMAIL ME OR SOMETHING! TO MUCH TO LIST HERE...
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
homiusang: see ubove comments about a NEW touring... I plan to add nav. via
eclipse or kenwood head unit with the touch screen and DVD!! yum!
Dragon: thankx!!!
almost forgot to all those that suggest BRAND NEW Z..
instant depreciation $$$$ and no 100k warranty
The rims: no, wheels are from my trade in,
and cost that was the end price there is no sales tax in oregon
and only DMV fee $30 plate transfer $13
Janus: my car MSRP $33,475 Private party $30,250 (kelly Blue book)
yours sounds excellent also! BUt I couldnt pay $37k or i would have goten somethin similar to yours, i needed the most i could find for my $$ in my area w/ option i wanted.thanks!
TTsUPRA94: thanx man Luv the supra TT also none arround here

King TuT: yes it was time well spent I hope....
Brick Rat:
KCObean: im aware of the problems you pointed out, however i have not seen any symptoms YET (hold my breath) of the known recalls/probs.
i know i could have got a new but lesser model, but i wanted the options that this came with and still extremely low miles and known history. The car came with 100k mile powertrain warranty With 6 more years bumper to bumper "wrap" $0 deductable. (Nissan warranty) cancelable anytime, just ran kelly book in my area see ubove..
Also everything i could find similar to mine cost allot more even as used with many more miles (part of reason i bought so far away) No Manulals!!
ZZTOP:
cobrask: Guyz, yea you guys are right, but thats not what salesman told me.:
homiusang:
Poison: well i guess that even better for value?

Masterfulks: yea ive been known to jump the gun and get excited, and go in reverse sometimes espically in cars, But it IS the one I WANT
and i wanted more equip than the Enth. gave for more $$ (in my area)
Nzz: Thanks 4 the support! all i have to say for the other "stuff" is
100k / 6yr bump to bump Nissan Cert. warranty!! 0 deduct.
KCobean: see warranty.. good ??
sales knew guy personaly drove weekends only, garaged other times,
didnt care for ride (older person) no offence to anyone
)In My area most z' go for MSRP or slightly higher this i did research
almost all new ones i saw were over $37k and autos...
============================================================ =================
MAXIMXL:: DUDE YOU HAVE GOT TO GET AHOLD OF ME!!!! WE NEED TO HANG OUT!
I am co-capitan of a local team here for Road rally! we have over $20k in prize money next season, uniforms soon, Major sponsors ect.. BESIDES I KNOW YOUR CAR INTIMATLY WELL I USED TO OWN IT!!! WE NEED TO TALK
YOU MUST EMAIL ME OR SOMETHING! TO MUCH TO LIST HERE...++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
homiusang: see ubove comments about a NEW touring... I plan to add nav. via
eclipse or kenwood head unit with the touch screen and DVD!! yum!
Dragon: thankx!!!
almost forgot to all those that suggest BRAND NEW Z..
instant depreciation $$$$ and no 100k warranty
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WOW im IMPREssED at all the responces so far good bad and ugly! forums like this are invaluable and provide an awesome service!ill try to adress All those who took the time to say something:
The rims: no, wheels are from my trade in,
and cost that was the end price there is no sales tax in oregon
and only DMV fee $30 plate transfer $13
Janus: my car MSRP $33,475 Private party $30,250 (kelly Blue book)
yours sounds excellent also! BUt I couldnt pay $37k or i would have goten somethin similar to yours, i needed the most i could find for my $$ in my area w/ option i wanted.thanks!
TTsUPRA94: thanx man Luv the supra TT also none arround here
King TuT: yes it was time well spent I hope....
Brick Rat:
KCObean: im aware of the problems you pointed out, however i have not seen any symptoms YET (hold my breath) of the known recalls/probs.
i know i could have got a new but lesser model, but i wanted the options that this came with and still extremely low miles and known history. The car came with 100k mile powertrain warranty With 6 more years bumper to bumper "wrap" $0 deductable. (Nissan warranty) cancelable anytime, just ran kelly book in my area see ubove..
Also everything i could find similar to mine cost allot more even as used with many more miles (part of reason i bought so far away) No Manulals!!
ZZTOP:
cobrask: Guyz, yea you guys are right, but thats not what salesman told me.:
homiusang:
Poison: well i guess that even better for value?
Masterfulks: yea ive been known to jump the gun and get excited, and go in reverse sometimes espically in cars, But it IS the one I WANT
and i wanted more equip than the Enth. gave for more $$ (in my area)
Nzz: Thanks 4 the support! all i have to say for the other "stuff" is
100k / 6yr bump to bump Nissan Cert. warranty!! 0 deduct.
KCobean: see warranty.. good ??
sales knew guy personaly drove weekends only, garaged other times,
didnt care for ride (older person) no offence to anyone
)
In My area most z' go for MSRP or slightly higher this i did research
almost all new ones i saw were over $37k and autos...
============================================================ =================
MAXIMXL:: DUDE YOU HAVE GOT TO GET AHOLD OF ME!!!! WE NEED TO HANG OUT!
I am co-capitan of a local team here for Road rally! we have over $20k in prize money next season, uniforms soon, Major sponsors ect.. BESIDES I KNOW YOUR CAR INTIMATLY WELL I USED TO OWN IT!!! WE NEED TO TALK
YOU MUST EMAIL ME OR SOMETHING! TO MUCH TO LIST HERE...
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
homiusang: see ubove comments about a NEW touring... I plan to add nav. via
eclipse or kenwood head unit with the touch screen and DVD!! yum!
Dragon: thankx!!!
almost forgot to all those that suggest BRAND NEW Z..
instant depreciation $$$$ and no 100k warranty
The rims: no, wheels are from my trade in,
and cost that was the end price there is no sales tax in oregon
and only DMV fee $30 plate transfer $13
Janus: my car MSRP $33,475 Private party $30,250 (kelly Blue book)
yours sounds excellent also! BUt I couldnt pay $37k or i would have goten somethin similar to yours, i needed the most i could find for my $$ in my area w/ option i wanted.thanks!
TTsUPRA94: thanx man Luv the supra TT also none arround here

King TuT: yes it was time well spent I hope....
Brick Rat:
KCObean: im aware of the problems you pointed out, however i have not seen any symptoms YET (hold my breath) of the known recalls/probs.
i know i could have got a new but lesser model, but i wanted the options that this came with and still extremely low miles and known history. The car came with 100k mile powertrain warranty With 6 more years bumper to bumper "wrap" $0 deductable. (Nissan warranty) cancelable anytime, just ran kelly book in my area see ubove..
Also everything i could find similar to mine cost allot more even as used with many more miles (part of reason i bought so far away) No Manulals!!
ZZTOP:
cobrask: Guyz, yea you guys are right, but thats not what salesman told me.:
homiusang:
Poison: well i guess that even better for value?

Masterfulks: yea ive been known to jump the gun and get excited, and go in reverse sometimes espically in cars, But it IS the one I WANT
and i wanted more equip than the Enth. gave for more $$ (in my area)
Nzz: Thanks 4 the support! all i have to say for the other "stuff" is
100k / 6yr bump to bump Nissan Cert. warranty!! 0 deduct.
KCobean: see warranty.. good ??
sales knew guy personaly drove weekends only, garaged other times,
didnt care for ride (older person) no offence to anyone
)In My area most z' go for MSRP or slightly higher this i did research
almost all new ones i saw were over $37k and autos...
============================================================ =================
MAXIMXL:: DUDE YOU HAVE GOT TO GET AHOLD OF ME!!!! WE NEED TO HANG OUT!
I am co-capitan of a local team here for Road rally! we have over $20k in prize money next season, uniforms soon, Major sponsors ect.. BESIDES I KNOW YOUR CAR INTIMATLY WELL I USED TO OWN IT!!! WE NEED TO TALK
YOU MUST EMAIL ME OR SOMETHING! TO MUCH TO LIST HERE...++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
homiusang: see ubove comments about a NEW touring... I plan to add nav. via
eclipse or kenwood head unit with the touch screen and DVD!! yum!
Dragon: thankx!!!
almost forgot to all those that suggest BRAND NEW Z..
instant depreciation $$$$ and no 100k warranty
Originally posted by DragonGcoupe
It's a good deal because you picked out the car, looked for it, and WILL ENJOY it.
It's a good deal because you picked out the car, looked for it, and WILL ENJOY it.
Originally posted by King Tut
Yep, the cheapskates don't seem to understand that. They just see dollar signs. I gladly paid MSRP to get my car, and I don't regret it even when I see people posting how they stole their Z from a dealer.
Yep, the cheapskates don't seem to understand that. They just see dollar signs. I gladly paid MSRP to get my car, and I don't regret it even when I see people posting how they stole their Z from a dealer.
Since I was the first "negative" post (even though it wasn't really negative, and the OP *did* ask for honest opinions), let me reiterate that I didn't say it was a BAD deal, I just said that I didn't think it was a steal, or the course of action I would have taken.
Rolling: It's good that you have the extended protection. I hope you don't run up against what one of my co-workers is facing. He had an o-ring go bad in his transmission (on a 4-runner). The extended warranty he bought only covers parts, not labor. The o-ring cost like $3, the labor to replace it is in the neighborhood of $1100, so the warranty he bought just saved him a whole $3. Typically, extended warrantys aren't a great deal, but had I bought the car you bought, I probably would have purchased the Ext. warranty as well. Seriously, enjoy the car. I hope you ended up with one of the '03's that doesn't have issues (just the same as I hope I ended up with an '04 that has no issues
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