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Old 02-21-2005, 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by doc91671
The 35th produces more torque at 6400 rpm than the standard engine does at 6200 rpms.
That really doesnt mean anything. I could go on the torque curve and find where the standard engine makes more tq than the 35th engine.
Old 02-21-2005, 09:20 AM
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Of course, for example 4800 rpms.
Old 02-21-2005, 09:34 AM
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Default lets not go off topic....

the Z was still placed very much last placed??????

Nissan has to put a Turbo in the Z!

just my .02 cents.....


we all know, or most of us here know that our Z is very much close to a boxster in terms of performance,,,,but a Turbo
in a Z would make it superior (minus the interior)
Old 02-21-2005, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: lets not go off topic....

Originally posted by rclab1
the Z was still placed very much last placed??????

Nissan has to put a Turbo in the Z!

just my .02 cents.....


we all know, or most of us here know that our Z is very much close to a boxster in terms of performance,,,,but a Turbo
in a Z would make it superior (minus the interior)
Why wait for Nissan to put a turbo on the Z when you can do it yourself and probably get a system that is far superior to what Nissan would design.
Old 02-21-2005, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: lets not go off topic....

Originally posted by doc91671
Of course, for example 4800 rpms.
So, what exactly was your point? The magazines aren't going to sit there and study the dyno graph and say to themselves, "Well, we didn't like the lack of peak torque compared to the old engine, but according to the numbers, this new engine produces more torque higher up in the RPM range at a certain point!" I know everyone likes to sit around and spout numbers out when it comes to comparing performance, but in the end it's all about how it translates to driving experience.

Originally posted by rclab1
Nissan has to put a Turbo in the Z!

we all know, or most of us here know that our Z is very much close to a boxster in terms of performance,,,,but a Turbo
in a Z would make it superior (minus the interior)
I'm sort of counting on Nissan to eventually turbocharge the 350Z, eventually. I mean, they've done it to just about every other Fairlady, correct?
Old 02-21-2005, 10:50 AM
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My point is that its generating more TQ in the upper rpm range is important for power production, since RPM X TQ=HP (defining how much work can be performed in a given time, as Im sure you already know). Additonally with the rev limit increased to 7000, the new engine can remain in a given (lower) gear longer.
Old 02-21-2005, 01:08 PM
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at least they got compared to the 911.

interesting that they have a 911 but no vette.

the whole world wants to see how the 987 S stacks up w/ the 997.

Too bad porsche refuses to put the 3.6L motor in the boxster. 320HP in that MR chassis - would really make the 911 irrelavant, or *strictly* a poseurs car.

That said, and not knowing who won the thing - while the Z is nice, jap horses are always weaker than german ones - and it always shows. 911s will run rings around a Z.



/patiently waiting to pick up his 996TT/
Old 02-21-2005, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Re: lets not go off topic....

Originally posted by 7744
I'm sort of counting on Nissan to eventually turbocharge the 350Z, eventually. I mean, they've done it to just about every other Fairlady, correct?
not under carlos ghosen's leadership...
Old 02-22-2005, 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by FairladyZ
Steve Millen doesnt drive the 350Z to its fullest. I think he has something against it? Maybe no one buying his products.

Stillen products are whack! Whenever I see a Stillen Mustang or Vette...I laugh histarically!!
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Default How Well the Z would of done if Nissan added.....

on a positive NOTE.....

what are some things that could of been put on the Z 30thAnniV.
edition so that it could of fared well in that Sports Car Comparo
in that Magazine?
Old 02-22-2005, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: How Well the Z would of done if Nissan added.....

Originally posted by rclab1
on a positive NOTE.....

what are some things that could of been put on the Z 30thAnniV.
edition so that it could of fared well in that Sports Car Comparo
in that Magazine?
Well I am sure a turbo kit would have made things interesting.

But I think its more like, what could they have removed from the car to improve the performance. The 350Z is a real pig and could definately be a better car if it were 200lb - 400lb lighter.
Old 02-22-2005, 05:20 PM
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Default The Coupe is a Pig (meaning Heavy)

if the Coupe placed almost last in each category,,,,,
i wondered how my Roadster would of done....
probably Dead Last in each b/c its even HeavIER!!!!
Old 02-22-2005, 06:13 PM
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I finally checked out this article, and while I usually like Road & Track, the Z was definitely misplaced in this comparo. The only car that I would even consider a competitor to the Z would be the S2000, and maybe the Z4. A 911, Vette, and boxster are far more expensive, in a totally different class. The Elise is more expensive and it's also purely a car for the track. The Merc is more expensive and more luxurious, same goes for the Z4. I guess we should just be happy we were even included, seeing as how the new mustang GT wasn't
Old 02-22-2005, 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by maximZ
How can they say the Z has poor torque when an S2K was in the test group?
exactly what I was thinking.. if they said the Z was torquless, what did they say about the poor s2k???????
Old 02-22-2005, 07:35 PM
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I think if they ahd picked a Track w/o the Nav woulda saved some weight and dropped the price.

That might have been enough to move up a notch or 2.

Fred..
Old 02-22-2005, 11:02 PM
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That article was gay and is not really worth talking about. Just so everyone knows the 350Z is also SLOWER than a Ferarri Enzo and a Porsche Carerra GT.
Old 02-23-2005, 04:14 AM
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35th anniv. Z would have fared better, if:

1. Nissan reduced the overall weight of the car - Lighter rims and chassis??

2. Bump up the HP to 350?? a 13 HP increase ain't cuttin' it.....Also, tweak the engine for better low-end torque response.

3. Tweak the 6-speed tranny...Steal the Honda design, maybe....LOL

4. Add a damn TWIN-TURBO (and a glovebox).
Old 02-23-2005, 06:11 AM
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If you look at the article they had some nice things to say about the Z. The one that said the most to me is that the Z is the easiest for a non professional to drive fast and control. Also the Z was the best to drive at 85% of maximum.

As much as we like to think we push our cars to the edge, I bet most of us don't come even close to 85%.

However, if you want to compete with the big boys 15k in options would put you pretty hight up. FI, lowered 1/2 inch with springs and the most obvious answer is to add wider rubber to the Z. With 245 front, 275 rear and FI the car would really hit that track.
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I still don't understand why they said the Z had little Torque while
everyone in this forum and the world says' the Z has
plenty down Low?????????

I'm just glad they didn't test the Z Roadster.....
it would of been embarrassed.........

Please Nissan, listen to "AdamDC"
Put a F/I, Lower it 1/2"
and Put wider Rubbers on the Z....
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Default not to go off topic....

someone on the Forum mentioned that its better to go F/I
with brands such as Greddy, APS, TurboNetics, Stillen.....etc....

but as for me and some others, there aren't any tuners
for atleast 600 miles around,,,,,

and if Nissan puts one in the Z, it would be better situation
for us b/c if something breaks or goes out of tune,
IT WILL be covered by Warranty!......thus it will be Fixed....

sooooo Please NISSAN, put F/I in the Z!!!!!!!!


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