B-Unit

iTrader: (21)

my guess is defnitely. But what good is a warranty on some **** they refuse to fix, am i right?

Hyru

youre right...
but if it voids the warranty completely... then you gotta weigh the consequences. Dont want my engine/transmission giving up on me the next day, only to have these monkeys tell me its because of something I did (even though it may have nothing to do with the part that goes wrong).

Im gona visit a different nissan dealer, as well as give Nissan Canada a call and let them know what I think about their vehicle.
But my guess is, even if they were to "fix" it... it would be temporary, only to have it return a few thousand miles later.
GUess the Camber Kit is a must.

B-Unit

iTrader: (21)

well, if your engine/transmission died, they would have to be able to prove that the suspension mods did that and theres no way in hell they could prove that beacase your suspension has nothing to do with those things.

Kevin3

$1300 sounds like an extreme amount of money for us to spend on fixing something that nissan messed up!

Hyru

It definitely is... but what other choice do we have?
We can taje legal action but that on its own is a completely different story / headache.

Nissan Canada better make me a happy customer

tacomaboy

Let me ask you, how much does it cost to rotate your tires every 5k miles?

Consider if you do it 6 times in 30k miles (expected life of the tires) arent you spending MORE on rotations then on new tires every 15k miles?

andycapp

Harass your dealership to replace the tires on your '04 for feathering. The deal in the USA was that if you did it before 12,000mi (19,312km) then you could get new tires. I complained to my dealership at about 10k and a few weeks later I got new tires. They also gave me a free alignment hoping it would fix the problem in the future. What tires have you guys been putting on your car after the stock ones wore out?

Hyru

where di you get this "deal" for the 12,000mi info from?
my dealer will pretty much tell me I dont know what Im talking about unless I got some kinda proof.

kjh176

Took my car in with feathering at 14K. They swapped the front tires (took front tires off rims and rotated) and performed an alignment for free. After the free work, they told me that the roar would come back, and when it did, I'd have to pay for the swap/alignment myself them from then on. At 19K miles, the roar came back with a vengance. No longer wanting to deal with the car/dealer bullsh!t, I traded it in for an 05 Mazda6. No more Nissans for me...congrats Nissan, you just lost a customer.

Good luck to all on the feathering issue. I just didn't want to deal with the noise and Nissan/dealer bull anymore...I commend all of you still fighting Nissan with this. I hope the tire feathering class action lawsuit against Nissan turns out in your favor, but I'm suspecting the lawyers will take everything they can get. Get 'em guys!

Hyru

heck dude, atleast they changed it for you once...

they wont even consider it for me. 6,500 miles on my 04

kjh176

From what I've read from other 04 owners, people get different responses/service based on different dealerships (nothing, free replacements, only an alignment, etc). It's almost like they give different answers/service based upon how the service manager is feeling that day. VERY inconsistent and completely retarted, IMO. Calling NNA for me was simply a complete waste of time, but some folks have had success in talking with the better reps.

Have you tried going to other dealers in your area?

Hyru

nah, only gone to one dealer to date.
What I dont understand is... dont they have to get the "ok" from nissan Canada/ NNA?
Why wouldnt my dealer want to do it? Its not as if they're losing money, NNA will have to pay them...
My guess is NNA/Nissan Canada is simply telling them not to do it.

andycapp

The 12,000mi thing was something I read on the boards previously and I think it was related to the warranty on 'wear items' like tires, brakes, etc, but I could be completely wrong.

B-Unit

iTrader: (21)

Costs around 40 buks. Seems worth it to me, a new set of tires runs me 1300 buks.

tacomaboy

So it costs you 40 bucks to have your tires rotated 6 times?! You mean you actually found a shop who will unmount your tires, and remount them on a 17/18" rim for 6 bucks for all four wheel!?

Also, what sort of tires are you buying that are 300+ dollars? I can find you a better set than the craptenzas for 150....

From my understanding, having your tires (directional tires) rotated is 40+ dollars PER ROTATION, usually 60 bucks. That means after 6 rotations you have spent 360 bucks in only rotations just to give your front tires what, 10-15k extra miles?

Seems better to me just to live with the feathering and buy tires every 15k miles.

BTW, I had my tires rotated after the feathering (which was mild) and very soon the ROAAAAR got much worse! My wife couldnt stand it...

Just IMO, but I dont think rotating yuor tires every 3-5000 miles is an acceptable solution..

shawnz

What year is your Z and how many miles have you gotten out of your fronts with your mods.

B-Unit

iTrader: (21)

I only rotate the fronts.

Im running 255-35-19s for a 9.5" wide rim in the front, and 285-35-19 for a 10.5" wide rim in the rear.

Your roar may have gotten worse but you also dont have a camber kit which is what fixes them, doesnt make much sense to rotate a tire thats being feathered anyhow to the other side where itll do the same thing.

B-Unit

iTrader: (21)

ill make sure to keep you guys updated, ive been running these tires for about 2k miles now. My Z is a 2004.

tacomaboy

Ahh yes, +1 to the camber kit. Why doesnt Nissan just install these on 03s and 04s with feathering instead of buying more and more tires?

And I agree with you about rotating the tire.. I didnt realize it would make the sound worse, I thought it would just extend the life of the fronts so they matched the rears...

B-Unit

iTrader: (21)

only way i could really see it working with rotating tires with feathering is if the setup on the car wasnt staggered, so you could rotate the front wheels to the back becasuse the fronts are the ones that feather, then again, its because of the staggered setup that the front feather anyhow, so yeah, stuck between a rock and a hard place. Id just get the camber kit, itll do a world of difference.