How well does the Z handle?
Originally Posted by JackMan017
thank you for that writeup, just to let you know 03/04 Cobras come with IRS suspension, as well as the 99-00 Cobras, our IRS is stronger than the proceeding year Cobras.
if you haven't already, I'd recommend going to a dealer and actually test driving a Z prior to getting rid of your cobra and committing to a Z. I'm not saying the Z isn't great, I love my Z. but as a previous mustang owner I can tell you that there are times when I miss the throw you back into your seat feel of a torquey V8.
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the way the wheels on the z are positioned so close to the corners and the way the weight is distributed both make for great handling in the z.
ya, big brakes only help with fade on the z, not with stopping distance. look at stoptech brakes, too.
get a base model and you'll have more money to spend on upgrades.
oem lsd is not great. you prolly want an aftermarket one, eg nismo, cusco, et al, esp if you go fi later.
good luck.
the way the wheels on the z are positioned so close to the corners and the way the weight is distributed both make for great handling in the z.
ya, big brakes only help with fade on the z, not with stopping distance. look at stoptech brakes, too.
get a base model and you'll have more money to spend on upgrades.
oem lsd is not great. you prolly want an aftermarket one, eg nismo, cusco, et al, esp if you go fi later.
good luck.
Originally Posted by JackMan017
How much should I be paying OTD for an 05 enthusiast? our sales tax is 8%. No way I can trade my car in, too much money in mods need to sell it to someone who can appreciate the car for what it has done to it, but yeah soon as It gets sold I will run over and check the 05 inventory on dealership lots, try and score maybe an enthusiast model (05) for around 31K OTD?
05: 287HP 274 TQ
06: 300HP 260 TQ (I'm going off the top of my head)
There is alot of topics running around which engine is better, but to be honest, you won't see a huge difference unless you are doing some serious racing.
Originally Posted by showstoppertk
if you haven't already, I'd recommend going to a dealer and actually test driving a Z prior to getting rid of your cobra and committing to a Z. I'm not saying the Z isn't great, I love my Z. but as a previous mustang owner I can tell you that there are times when I miss the throw you back into your seat feel of a torquey V8.
Originally Posted by FLZ_Boy
In California, you should be able to get an 05 OTD around the low 30K's. The 06's are comming out soon, you might want to wait a tad if you want the 300 HP engine.
05: 287HP 274 TQ
06: 300HP 260 TQ (I'm going off the top of my head)
There is alot of topics running around which engine is better, but to be honest, you won't see a huge difference unless you are doing some serious racing.
05: 287HP 274 TQ
06: 300HP 260 TQ (I'm going off the top of my head)
There is alot of topics running around which engine is better, but to be honest, you won't see a huge difference unless you are doing some serious racing.
Cool, thanks. Yeah I saw that 06 was getting a bump in power, I read somewhere on this board I believe it was mostly ECU tweaking, but I can't remember for sure.
I'm going to hopefully check one out at a dealership in the next week or so. I've sat in one, just never driven one. My buddy however, whos an import nut, keeps pushin for the Evo, I like it's power and awd characteristics, but man that interior!
I read somewhere on this board I believe it was mostly ECU tweaking, but I can't remember for sure.
people who have done dyno comparisons have said that there's no real torque difference between the two engines. I'm not totally convinced, and I'd like to see more info on the subject.
Originally Posted by JackMan017
that has crossed my mind about a million times. Just coming back from work tonight I gave her a nice top of second gear rip, man 570 rwhp throws you back perfect in your seats.. 
I was talking to John Morton the other day about the handling of the
350Z and he said it was the second best handling production car he
has ever driven. The best was a Corvette but he said he wouldn't want
to own a Corvette. He didn't say why. John, www.john-morton-racing.us ,
is the world famous Nissan racer and has raced just about every type of
car made and should know what he is talking about.
350Z and he said it was the second best handling production car he
has ever driven. The best was a Corvette but he said he wouldn't want
to own a Corvette. He didn't say why. John, www.john-morton-racing.us ,
is the world famous Nissan racer and has raced just about every type of
car made and should know what he is talking about.
JackMan017, if you are interested in handling numbers, according to my Gtech RR, I have pulled 1.06 G in track conditions. I was running BF Goodrich KD tires. My suspension mods are HKS Hipermax II coilovers, 350 Evo Camber arms, and SPC rear camber and toe bolts. My alignment camber is -3.0 camber in front and -2.4 in the rear. The toe is set to 0 in front and rear.
Originally Posted by rednezz
JackMan017, if you are interested in handling numbers, according to my Gtech RR, I have pulled 1.06 G in track conditions. I was running BF Goodrich KD tires. My suspension mods are HKS Hipermax II coilovers, 350 Evo Camber arms, and SPC rear camber and toe bolts. My alignment camber is -3.0 camber in front and -2.4 in the rear. The toe is set to 0 in front and rear.
The chassis is carved from stone making the car more predictable at extreme angles with tremendous feedback to the driver. I've never been surprised with my Z at 8-9/10ths driving, yet the Cobra bit me regularly.
In retrospect, I wish I had brought the car to Steeda to have the suspension tuned properly...so you might want to try that route first.
Originally Posted by 350Zenophile
That is sick. And make no mistake JackMan. You can get your Cobra to produce these lateral G numbers(well maybe close to) probably easier than you can get the Z to 570rwhp, but the numbers don't tell the whole story. I think you know this or you wouldn't even be considering the Z.
The chassis is carved from stone making the car more predictable at extreme angles with tremendous feedback to the driver. I've never been surprised with my Z at 8-9/10ths driving, yet the Cobra bit me regularly.
In retrospect, I wish I had brought the car to Steeda to have the suspension tuned properly...so you might want to try that route first.
The chassis is carved from stone making the car more predictable at extreme angles with tremendous feedback to the driver. I've never been surprised with my Z at 8-9/10ths driving, yet the Cobra bit me regularly.
In retrospect, I wish I had brought the car to Steeda to have the suspension tuned properly...so you might want to try that route first.
The chassis is very stiff and well balanced. I believe that is why the Grand Am cup 350Z's are very competitive against cars with alot more horsepower. I know my car was good stock but with just a few tweaks in the alignment and a good corner balance made a giant difference in handling.
Originally Posted by rednezz
JackMan017, if you are interested in handling numbers, according to my Gtech RR, I have pulled 1.06 G in track conditions. I was running BF Goodrich KD tires. My suspension mods are HKS Hipermax II coilovers, 350 Evo Camber arms, and SPC rear camber and toe bolts. My alignment camber is -3.0 camber in front and -2.4 in the rear. The toe is set to 0 in front and rear.
Originally Posted by 350Zenophile
That is sick. And make no mistake JackMan. You can get your Cobra to produce these lateral G numbers(well maybe close to) probably easier than you can get the Z to 570rwhp, but the numbers don't tell the whole story. I think you know this or you wouldn't even be considering the Z.
The chassis is carved from stone making the car more predictable at extreme angles with tremendous feedback to the driver. I've never been surprised with my Z at 8-9/10ths driving, yet the Cobra bit me regularly.
In retrospect, I wish I had brought the car to Steeda to have the suspension tuned properly...so you might want to try that route first.
The chassis is carved from stone making the car more predictable at extreme angles with tremendous feedback to the driver. I've never been surprised with my Z at 8-9/10ths driving, yet the Cobra bit me regularly.
In retrospect, I wish I had brought the car to Steeda to have the suspension tuned properly...so you might want to try that route first.
Yeah Im sure my cobra could pull the g numbers pretty close, but at the expense of knocking out every tooth I have in my mouth from that smooth ride i'll have...
Originally Posted by JackMan017
the fact that its a 25 year old chasis that I'm trying to work with really steers me away from doing any kind of suspension mods to the cobra minus some subframe connectors that are already welded on.
Yeah Im sure my cobra could pull the g numbers pretty close, but at the expense of knocking out every tooth I have in my mouth from that smooth ride i'll have...
Yeah Im sure my cobra could pull the g numbers pretty close, but at the expense of knocking out every tooth I have in my mouth from that smooth ride i'll have...
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