S8ER95Z

One more thing...typically people who are not impressed with a ~14.0 area 1/4 mile.. are all talk until they run it themselves

You just got a hold of the car before it was broken it.. just gotta wait longer man.. it will come around.. its like waiting for a girl to turn 18 ...LOL Well worth the wait

steve c

He says the car had 4000 miles on it -- that is broken in.

In my opinion it's all relative. Those who stepped out of Civics and Camry's probably think the Z is extremely fast -- others who have owned 13 second cars might feel it is slow.

Cintel7

If you want to feel the road for 30K, get a sports car. If you want to own the road, get a muscles car.

sdpearso

You can cross the 911 off as I've beaten one of them (I don't know which model)
I assume this also means the Boxster but maybe not.
And a Z28 was left behind as well. (Again, I don't know what year or anything, I only know it was MT)

steve c

LOL being that they have made them for over 30 years your beating an older slower 911 is hardly grounds for claming the Z is faster than a 911.

As for the Z28 -- same argument.

Out of curiosity, for those claiming these sometimes outrageous wins over much faster cars -- what cars did you previously own?

sdpearso

The boxster and 911 are not 13 second cars unless you're talking about a 911 turbo.

Only the more recent M3's are 13second cars, and high 13's at that.

sdpearso

What is this crap. This was my buddy's 2001 911. I wouldn't call that old. When I say I don't know what model I mean I don't know whether it was a Carrera or Carrera4S. I know it was not a turbo as that is obviously no competition (for +$100K I would hope)

As for the Z28, they're overrated bricks. Even the new ones. Apparently you've bought into the hype.

sdpearso

Cars I've owned worth mentioning:

'97 Supra TT
2K BMW 328ci

Oh, my fiance used to own a '99 Z28 POS that I was unfortunate enough to have to drive on occasion.

steve c

Well -- even the crappy drivers at Car and Driver managed to get a 13.2 out of a stock 996 C2.... a good bit better than 14's.

I will say that you have owned faster cars in the past and can at least understand the relation of speed -- but I don't agree with the LS1 bit -- I have driven a number of them and take them for what they are, capable of low 13's stock and not built for much else.

roberto350z

I said the firebird I beat was the newest generation..so its not the same argument.


And to the other post...I am talking about non-turbo 911 and an older M3. I know my cars....and I know the new M3 does 13.2 1/4 mile. I wanna hit up a 1999....thats a fair match!

sdpearso

OK, I don't understand what a 996 has to do with the 911 comment but maybe I'm missing something.

The LS1 (is that a Z28?) is a fast car. I won't argue that. Maybe the driver was bad. All I know is that it was in back, and when it was over all he had to say is "that Z is a fast f'ing car".

steve c

To most people they look the same from 93-2002. The LT1's are low 14 / high 13 second cars and should provide a decent race for a stock 350. The LS1's are just plain faster -- even the autos.

996 = the latest iteration of the 911 (1996-present) -- as in your friends 2001.

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lovely flaming match we have here boys, but not to disappoint, but my **** is clearly larger than all of yours.

Anyway, Im a tad confused how a 911 is a 13.2 second car, or whatever was said. to be honest Ive never seen a car drive a quarter mile; I have seen drivers use the car to do a quarter mile, but now the entire thing rests upon the driver. meaning a yugo could beat a mclaren if the drivers were right. I could beat a GT2 if he couldnt drive, does that make me faster than him? yes, I beat him didnt I? did I beat the car? no I wasnt racing the car, I was racing the driver. only way to even try and compare 2 cars would be to drive both with the same driver on a track, which magazines do; but no one likes to use mag times cause thats so unofficial....

SiGGy

Oke doke... This is the US, you are entitled to believe whatever you want. But here are the facts.

Do the math...

M3 is 333hp@3415lbs = 13.3@106.8mph
911 Carerra is 315hp @2959lbs 13.4@104.6 mph (actually faster, this is a 2000 996 spec which is heavier)

** the 911 info below is for a 2000. the 2003's are faster.

http://bmw.jbroadtests.com/3series/2002M3/index4.php
http://porsche.jbroadtests.com/911/2000/index3.php

http://autos.msn.com/vip/specificati...=10655&src=vip

http://autos.msn.com/vip/specificati...=10656&src=vip



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funny some of you are in denial. heheh

Sorry but your right, your car will come close to keeping up with a 911, which weighs less, and has more power. My bad

SiGGy

You'd be amazed to hear the 911TT can break into the 11's. It's for sure low 12 second car with just a decent driver.

PeelBoy

Exactly right. The new M3, 996 and LS1 Z28's are all low 13 second cars with a decent driver. roberto: That later model Firebird you raced was most likely a V6 (Which runs some where in the 15's if I had to guess) unless it was a Formula. Correct me if I'm wrong guys.

sdpearso

OK, OK. I admit I got a little carried away. My point is that most cars I've met on the road are not faster. Not necessarily because of the car but likely because of the lame *** drivers.

You are all correct that these cars are faster with equal drivers. But I have beat a 911 and a late model Z28.

I guess the moral to this is that it's not what you drive but how you drive it.

I'm over my denial now. Thanks.

Ohio350z

Keep in mind you can get this car for $27k which is the same price people paid back in 1990 for the 300zx. Since the bang for the buck is great, dump in a turbo and you have a world class car that can handel the turns as well as the straits. I love the acceleration in the car, it is linear and smooth. My ride is fast now, and I can't wait to see what it will do next with a few mods. I would rather have my $30k car with $7-10k in mods (stereo, rims, brakes, turbo) than a stock $37-$45 BMW M5.

SiGGy

hehe. Oh ya, the 350z is fast. And it's a badass car. I'm not taking anything away from it. Once the twin turbo 350z shows its face, things will certainly look different...

Have a great holiday

BigBadBuford

I don't think there are really any cars that are totally out of the Z's league since driver error plays a big part in the race. I've seen plenty of Vipers run 15 second 1/4 miles and a T/A on the spray pull a 16.5, so if a good driver pulling a 14 second time was beside him, he would have put multiple cars on either or them. In the hands of an expert cars like a Z28, M3, or 911 are quicker than the Z, but on the street I could easily see the Z beating any of those cars in a race.