Clapton9286

And how many people bought them?

DZ2005

Dood, I WANT A NSX, too bad that'll prolly never happen. I would trade my Z right now for one....anybody???? LOL

Kanyon71

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The Cayanne I never doubted because of the love for SUV's, but a sedan is way outside of the Porsche comfort zone. They started to try this once before and after some focus groups finally cancelled the project. I think if they start doing things like that it will only water down the brand name over time. Now it may turn out to be one sick sedan but in the end you have to ask will it be as good as Mercedes, BMW, Infiniti, Audi, Lexus and the likes. I think stick to what you know and what will sell.

zpak

The NSX?

Roughly 8733 cars through 2004, since it started sales in August of 1990.

Reference:
http://www.hondanews.com/CatID3001?m...75395&mime=asc

Might not seem like a high number, but the person I was quoting from said that Americans "won't buy" Japanese cars above $60k, and that's 8733 people who "wouldn't" buy the NSX (but did), not counting 2005 purchases to date.

Seeing how about 800 Ferrari 360's were sold annually during its production lifetime, if you extrapolate that number over 15 years, it's somewhat (maybe?) close, right?

So that's not half bad for a >$60k Japanese car that no one here would supposedly buy.

Clapton9286

No, not bad, but no worth the price either IMHO.

davidv

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“More Porsche like” means that the 350Z will spend more time in the shop than it does on the road.

Kanyon71

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But how many more then 800 360's per year are made? Also if they made a lot more then that how many do they actually allow to be shipped to the US for sale here?

Kanyon71

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I know people with Porsches that have 100k plus miles on them and have been in the shop very little for repairs. NOW on the other hand More Porshe Like could mean ridiculous service prices for things like oil changes, filter changes and tune ups and things like that. I always cringe when I read what people pay for service on cars like Porsche, Ferrari and the like.

350zroadster

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How's the NSX a failure? They sold every single one they build. It's a racing advertisement everytime it's on the track. They didn't have to recall or have huge redesign for 15 years.

Would someone say Ferrari Enzo is a failure because they only sold a couple hundred? They're sport cars, the market for them is limited.

Rampage

I have to agree with the other poster. I know a couple guys with a Porsche in their garage. They are pretty much bulletproof and never break as long as you maintain them properly. The scheduled maintenance can cost you a small fortune though.

zpak

I'd probably agree with that. If I were to spend $80-90k on a car, I wouldn't buy an NSX (maybe spend a little bit more and get something else). I'm not bashing the NSX (I think it was a revolutionary car for its time).

zpak

I don't have those numbers, and that 800 figure was in global sales, not U.S. domestic market.

Clapton9286

I like the NSX, for the money many other cars, better cars, could be had. Like a 911. It just didn't support its price.

And same with the JGTC ones they released this year for 500K. Carbon fibre body panels, same hp, 500K. Oi.

350zQ45a

The NSX is a special car. Designed by people who went to college.

The car is expensive because of the materials used, and the chasis alone. They are just now starting to use aluminum bodies, and the NSX had this 15 years ago. Not to mention the quality of the paint, the quality of it being hand built etc.

The 2002s with the improved aerodynamics really made it even better.

A 2002+ NSX would be a great car to own. Exotic engineering, mid engined, still looks great, targa top.. it will eventually be cheap.. eventually

The early 90s models are cheap, but I think the updates are worth the extra money. You defineterly want the 3.2 liter engine and the 6 speed found on the 97s and later.. I still say hold out for the much better looking 02s.

Fletch69z

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Yeah, I read that article. Sounds cool!

Agent ONE

Honda lost money on the project... Ferrari never does, thats the difference. The reason it seems like the sold all made is the first year they were price competitive with the Vette, then as they realized after practically taking a loss on each car, they needed to raise the price and be a more exclusive car to be affiliated with Porsche, this failed as well, but wasn't the glaring tragedy like the first year of production as production numbers were low.

thawk408

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If it was such a failure, then why is it still produced after 15 years. The NSX has held its own in the world of turbos and huge HP numbers, such as cars like the supra and skyline. Honda's goal was to make a very well balanced sportscar that was civil enough to be a daily driver. Looks like they got the job done and damn well one at that (look at the new NSX-R). Sure it is 90k brand new, but you get what you pay for. Its not all about power and speed. Its about build quality and purpose. I have seen 91 NSXs in better shape then 03 Zs.

Fletch69z

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+1

DomZ

I say keep the Z in its current price range. The only reason I am able to afford mine and my insurance at 19 is because I managed to get an 03 Touring (with 14k) for 23k. Its an affordable sports car and nothing makes me happier then to beat up on something that cost twice as much.

hypeiv

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I don't see many automakers putting many high HP cars in the pipeline. With gas prices the way they are I think they are going to see some major hits in sales unless gas prices go back down to $2 a gallon or so.