Y Is The 2006 Z Soooooo Heavy?
09-29-2005, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 35oZephyR
My only gripe about the 350z's numbers was it's weight.
I guess they wanted to make it more of a comfy ride like the G35c, to appease the masses. When that "hardcore" lightweight, straight-out-the-box track Z comes out in 2007, it will be a little more distinctive.
I guess they wanted to make it more of a comfy ride like the G35c, to appease the masses. When that "hardcore" lightweight, straight-out-the-box track Z comes out in 2007, it will be a little more distinctive.
09-29-2005, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FastZ33
so y is the new z soo dam heavy its pissing me off. i mean comeon i want to smoke the **** out of those preps in their bimmers. so y is it soo heavy then the 05?
They probably added more sound insulation so you cant hear your tires feathering.
awesome!!
09-30-2005, 06:13 AM
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Well the rims are bigger on all models now. The Base has the same rims as the Enthusiast and Touring. Also, I believe the brake systems are the same size as Brembo's now on the non-Brembo's (don't get the big calipers). Also, I'm sure going to Bi-Xenon headlamps and the LED tails added some weight. The track rims are also HUGE now. I think they are 18x9.5 in the front and 18x10.5 in the rear so that will definitely add some weight.
10-05-2005, 01:14 AM
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The forged wheels should should actually reduce weight. I bet they weight under 23 lbs. They look nasty though.
I can't believe a 6mt grand touring only weighs 120 lbs. less than an 06 g35c 6mt.
I can't believe a 6mt grand touring only weighs 120 lbs. less than an 06 g35c 6mt.
10-05-2005, 07:08 AM
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100lbs. heavier on average means .1 slower on the 1320.
10WHP on average means .1 faster on the 1320.
According to power to weight ratio numbers the 287hp Z with being 100lbs. lighter, will be faster in the 1/4 mile.
10WHP on average means .1 faster on the 1320.
According to power to weight ratio numbers the 287hp Z with being 100lbs. lighter, will be faster in the 1/4 mile.
10-05-2005, 07:40 AM
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If Nissan had increased structural rigidity or crash worthiness, it would most certainly have been in the press release. Forged wheels and tires, new headlights and tailights, cupholders, etc. don't equal 120lbs.
I have to believe they must be following some new weight measurement policy enacted by whatever governing body mandates those sort of things to manufacturers. It's kinda like the recent adoption by many manufacturers of more precise HP figures that SAE has put forth for their '06 models.
Think about the weight of all the fluids in a vehicle + all the optional equipment that can be left on/off the scales during a weigh in session...leaves a lot of room for inconsistency.
It will be intersting to see if the G35 line receives a similar weight gain when the '06 models are announced.
I have to believe they must be following some new weight measurement policy enacted by whatever governing body mandates those sort of things to manufacturers. It's kinda like the recent adoption by many manufacturers of more precise HP figures that SAE has put forth for their '06 models.
Think about the weight of all the fluids in a vehicle + all the optional equipment that can be left on/off the scales during a weigh in session...leaves a lot of room for inconsistency.
It will be intersting to see if the G35 line receives a similar weight gain when the '06 models are announced.
10-05-2005, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 350Zenophile
If Nissan had increased structural rigidity or crash worthiness, it would most certainly have been in the press release. Forged wheels and tires, new headlights and tailights, cupholders, etc. don't equal 120lbs.
I have to believe they must be following some new weight measurement policy enacted by whatever governing body mandates those sort of things to manufacturers. It's kinda like the recent adoption by many manufacturers of more precise HP figures that SAE has put forth for their '06 models.
Think about the weight of all the fluids in a vehicle + all the optional equipment that can be left on/off the scales during a weigh in session...leaves a lot of room for inconsistency.
It will be intersting to see if the G35 line receives a similar weight gain when the '06 models are announced.
I have to believe they must be following some new weight measurement policy enacted by whatever governing body mandates those sort of things to manufacturers. It's kinda like the recent adoption by many manufacturers of more precise HP figures that SAE has put forth for their '06 models.
Think about the weight of all the fluids in a vehicle + all the optional equipment that can be left on/off the scales during a weigh in session...leaves a lot of room for inconsistency.
It will be intersting to see if the G35 line receives a similar weight gain when the '06 models are announced.
10-05-2005, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 350Zenophile
If Nissan had increased structural rigidity or crash worthiness, it would most certainly have been in the press release. Forged wheels and tires, new headlights and tailights, cupholders, etc. don't equal 120lbs.
I have to believe they must be following some new weight measurement policy enacted by whatever governing body mandates those sort of things to manufacturers. It's kinda like the recent adoption by many manufacturers of more precise HP figures that SAE has put forth for their '06 models.
Think about the weight of all the fluids in a vehicle + all the optional equipment that can be left on/off the scales during a weigh in session...leaves a lot of room for inconsistency.
It will be intersting to see if the G35 line receives a similar weight gain when the '06 models are announced.
I have to believe they must be following some new weight measurement policy enacted by whatever governing body mandates those sort of things to manufacturers. It's kinda like the recent adoption by many manufacturers of more precise HP figures that SAE has put forth for their '06 models.
Think about the weight of all the fluids in a vehicle + all the optional equipment that can be left on/off the scales during a weigh in session...leaves a lot of room for inconsistency.
It will be intersting to see if the G35 line receives a similar weight gain when the '06 models are announced.
Just running with a near empty gas tank would bring a older z into low 3000 range.
10-05-2005, 08:59 AM
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Doesn't "curb weight" mean how heavy the car is without any passenger, etc.?
Isn't that what the term "curb weight" means. I sometimes see places put two different weights on their car specs. "Curb weight" and "weight". So I don't see how some policy can change it. since I always thought that was what "curb" meant.
BTW:
2003 Z curb weight:
Track: 3,225 pounds.
Touring: 3,247 pounds.
2006 Z curb weight:
Track: 3,370 pounds. Heavier by 145 pounds.
Touring: 3,400 pounds. heavier by 153 pounds.
I'm defintely into weight management, so 153 pounds is just nuts. I've taken about 60 pounds off my 2003. It would kill me if I had to try and take an extra 145 pounds more off if I had the 2006. No thanks.
Isn't that what the term "curb weight" means. I sometimes see places put two different weights on their car specs. "Curb weight" and "weight". So I don't see how some policy can change it. since I always thought that was what "curb" meant.
BTW:
2003 Z curb weight:
Track: 3,225 pounds.
Touring: 3,247 pounds.
2006 Z curb weight:
Track: 3,370 pounds. Heavier by 145 pounds.
Touring: 3,400 pounds. heavier by 153 pounds.
I'm defintely into weight management, so 153 pounds is just nuts. I've taken about 60 pounds off my 2003. It would kill me if I had to try and take an extra 145 pounds more off if I had the 2006. No thanks.
10-05-2005, 09:41 AM
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CurbWeight (actual weight of your vehicle) - vehicle weight including:standard and optional equipment, fluids, emergency tools, and spare tire assembly. This weight does not include passengers and cargo.
Per 2004 owner's manual.
Per 2004 owner's manual.
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10-05-2005, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 35oZephyR
Awesome safety ratings...
stiff as hell chasis...unibody...
have you looked underneath a Z lately?
There's more stiffening braces than the G35 and those are plenty heavy.
As far as the new Z?
what Sp1der said...
stiff as hell chasis...unibody...
have you looked underneath a Z lately?
There's more stiffening braces than the G35 and those are plenty heavy.
As far as the new Z?
what Sp1der said...
I would discourage people from removing the spare tire because, especially as you add power, you need the weight in the back for traction.
To save weight go with, light weight seats, cf hood, light weight wheels, light weight exhaust-especially single outlet, light weight battery. All of this could potentially save 150-200+ depending on what you buy. I know touring seats with leather, power, heat weigh a TON if you buy some racing buckets with sliders and cloth you could save upwards of probably 50 lbs.
I would love to see someone do all of this on an enthusiast and weigh in around 3050-3100, that car would be awesome. That was my initial plan, but then I got such an awesome price on my touring I couldnt pass it up.
10-05-2005, 12:15 PM
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I don't care how heavy my Z is right now, its a fun car to drive and to look at. If you're really that concern, Mazda makes a little convertible.
Also, you can make the car weigh less yourself, carbon fiber this carbon fiber that, remove the spare tire and even one of the wheels , there's lots of ways to reduce weight.
Also, you can make the car weigh less yourself, carbon fiber this carbon fiber that, remove the spare tire and even one of the wheels
, there's lots of ways to reduce weight.For those of you concerned with an extra 50-150lbs, just tell your girlfriend/boyfriend to lose some weight...
10-05-2005, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackSpec02
Are these items NEW for 06, isnt the 03-05 z chassis pretty stiff. I know it has a unibody, of course it has more braces than a g35, its a performance car ,a g35 is a luxury car.
I would discourage people from removing the spare tire because, especially as you add power, you need the weight in the back for traction.
To save weight go with, light weight seats, cf hood, light weight wheels, light weight exhaust-especially single outlet, light weight battery. All of this could potentially save 150-200+ depending on what you buy. I know touring seats with leather, power, heat weigh a TON if you buy some racing buckets with sliders and cloth you could save upwards of probably 50 lbs.
I would love to see someone do all of this on an enthusiast and weigh in around 3050-3100, that car would be awesome. That was my initial plan, but then I got such an awesome price on my touring I couldnt pass it up.
I would discourage people from removing the spare tire because, especially as you add power, you need the weight in the back for traction.
To save weight go with, light weight seats, cf hood, light weight wheels, light weight exhaust-especially single outlet, light weight battery. All of this could potentially save 150-200+ depending on what you buy. I know touring seats with leather, power, heat weigh a TON if you buy some racing buckets with sliders and cloth you could save upwards of probably 50 lbs.
I would love to see someone do all of this on an enthusiast and weigh in around 3050-3100, that car would be awesome. That was my initial plan, but then I got such an awesome price on my touring I couldnt pass it up.
10-05-2005, 04:27 PM
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^ gotcha... all i know is that im glad mine is lighter than the new ones... gives me a reason to not be pissed that I dont have an 06. I like the interior doors though, the padded doors really break up that huge area of nothing. As for the console, I like the 2003 where the compartment door slides into the dash, much cleaner.
10-05-2005, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackSpec02
^ gotcha... all i know is that im glad mine is lighter than the new ones... gives me a reason to not be pissed that I dont have an 06. I like the interior doors though, the padded doors really break up that huge area of nothing. As for the console, I like the 2003 where the compartment door slides into the dash, much cleaner.
Seriously bro....
Here I am getting a headache over calculating a million ways on how I can lighten my 04 350z more, then Nissan goes and adds an extra couple hundred pounds to their whole "revised" Z fleet.
Maybe I'll see that stillen powered Z of yours around here in SD.
10-05-2005, 06:04 PM
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Yeah, I havent really taken her "out" yet. I mean shes my daily driver, but i havent taken her to qualcomm or fusion or anywhere yet. I intend to soon, just been very busy. Plus I'd like to get my body work done before hand too, so i can really show her off!
As far as lightening, all i intend to do in the future is swap out the seats, and maybe the battery when it dies. If I buy coils maybe they will be lighter. More than anything though, ive added weight, im sure the weight of supercharger and components offsets the weight savings of the cf hood. I will be adding a wing and lip. Will be adding brakes, sways, etc. The nismo wheels are light, but bigger tires might offset that a little, everytime I pull my wheels off they sure dont feel "light" when im holding one w/ a tire on.
As far as lightening, all i intend to do in the future is swap out the seats, and maybe the battery when it dies. If I buy coils maybe they will be lighter. More than anything though, ive added weight, im sure the weight of supercharger and components offsets the weight savings of the cf hood. I will be adding a wing and lip. Will be adding brakes, sways, etc. The nismo wheels are light, but bigger tires might offset that a little, everytime I pull my wheels off they sure dont feel "light" when im holding one w/ a tire on.