Only1Z made a good point.
I tend to get more dirty looks from other 350z drivers than any other generation Z driver. Plenty of folks bought the Z33 because it was "hot" rather than for it's capabilities, heritage, etc... they can give a crap what the car spawned from.

Every once and awhile I'll get an older 240 or 280z guy just purposely ignoring or minding his own business until I wave or smile, acknowledging that we both drive the same "Z" car. Theres always positive responses...it's just some of those guys aren't sure if we're in touch with our roots. I don't blame them.

Sometimes it's like that new freshmen coed trying to join a Sorority. All the lifelong sisters get catty.



(zeph makes any excuse to post these pics... )

 

I am on my sixth Z now. I like the 350Z the best so far.
There is all sorts of parts you can get for it. If you leave it stock it is a very nice performer. If you want to spend money on it you can go from mild to wild. I was a little reluctant to give up my previous Z. However, after a few months with this new Z and no problems what so ever. I decided it was time to get with the times and let go of old things. Technically and visually, for your money; I do not think there is a better buy out there.

Here's a picture of the sweetheart I gave up for the new 350Z:



I spent a lot of time on here keeping her is pristine condition. I am glad that she went to a good home.

 

Z32 owners are jealous maybe?? Who knows....

 

My brother-in-law has a black 240Z, I love that little thing. He and I will trade cars every once in a while. No grudge between us. My buddy with a Z32 on the other hand is a snobby little ****e about his car and thinks that they shoud have never made the Z33.

 

I did the same thing. But mine was just as fast as my 350z due to intake, exhaust, and a Hallman boost controller set @13 PSI. I too am glad she went to a good home. Check it out, you probably seen it before:
http://www.angelfire.com/az/tomicaz/

 

Funny, I agree with those getting kudos from the older generation and snobbed by other 350 owners. I spoke with an older guy at a gas station who told me the saddest day in his life was the day his wife made him sell his 240Z and what "sharp car" my 350 was. I even posted something earlier about how Z33 owners used to flash one another while approaching in traffic, but now just drive right past (at least in MD).

 

When they announced the new Z, I had 1 request before I would buy one. It had to be Yellow and not just any yellow. Before I even saw the new Z I began to save for it. I knew I would love the car because it was a Z, not because it was the cool new car.
When we found out the AE was to be in Yellow and after we saw the color we ordered it. To that point I hadn't even driven a new 350 even though several of my friends offered theirs to me to drive. Told them I'd wait for ours to come in. By the way it was paid for when it came in.
The only problem with our 350 is that we don't get to drive it much, had it since Feb 28th and only have 1700 miles on it. The Z32 vert I have 136000 on it, and totaly restored the car last year.

 

Our club, www.zroc.org includes everything from the late 60's Roadsters to the 350, and there is no hate at all. Many of the members own multiple Z's or Roadsters from different generations. The TT guys DO tend to think their cars are bad-a$$ fast, which they are, but the 350's keep up with them pretty well and do handle better - 7 years newer and better engineering. Those Datsun 2000 roadsters
at 2200 lbs don't do badly in the keeping up department either.

 

You know it, Steve . I still have my 87 z31 and it runs a 13.7 @ 100. No comparison to having a 16 year newer Z, but it can still keep up

And as far as people not giving the proper respect to the z33, z31 owners understand this far too well!!

 

I'm a Z fan of all generations. I'm always looking for the right Z32 and 240/260z to come along to buy. I think Z owners are a mixed bag when it comes to meeting them on the road. I've meet some Z32 & Z33 owners that will completely ignore you when you wave or honk at them as your right next to them and some that will acknowledge back. As far as some Z33 owners not knowing the heritage of the Z and getting because it's hot, I've meet the some share of Z32 owners that don't know it either and just wanted a cool TT sports car that's affordable at <$18k. I'm sure it's the same with vette guys.

 

Hey devster, great to see you here. Glad to see you got a 350z.

Damn right about that, I still have non respect battle scars. And I still (everyday) miss my 6 years of everyday posting on z31.com. The z31 is the lost generation and a great group (for the most part) of people to be part of (like here )

 

You mean the Z32 was overpriced? I guess?

 

I think it is about people and their attitudes. At first the Z32 guys were a little standoffish probably feeling like the Z32 was superior which in potential it is and was among the supercars of the 90's but eventually they got to know 350Z owners and as long as you show respect it goes both ways. As said there are many 350Z owners who probably because of the gap in production and were probably still in Elemtary school when the Z32 was last sold in the US, think the 350Z is the only Z and behave like that and that it is better.

I love both of mine for different reasons.

 

SteveZ33 - Sure, I have seen your car before. I have always loved it. It was/is very nice. I really thought those cars would have been worth more by now. It just it isn't a body style that everyone loves. It grew on me. I still think it is a nice body style expecially with the t-tops. I had 10 psi of boost, I could have boosted it to 13 psi like you but, wanted to make sure I didn't blow that stock turbo with over 200K on it. I'll bet that that Z31 would have pulled 14.2 or 14.3 in the quarter mile. The 350Z pulls 13.4 with just BFG Drag Radials, Pop charger and cut out. So, I am plenty happy with the performance there.

I saw a really nice silverstone? Z32 TT today. I was parked and the guy drove by my car to check it out. I have a silverstone 350Z. As soon as he noticed me in the car he stopped looking at my car and slowly drove by. I waved at him as soon as he got close enough to acknowledge. Maybe he was embarassed. I do not know. He didn't wave back. He also didn't know I was trying to give him props I guess. What I would give to get a nice clean Z32 TT like he had.

It was really nice !!!

 

99% of the 350z haters out there think the stock Z32TT was alot faster than a stock 350z... which isn't true... not to mention the fact that if you take inflation into account a z32TT new would be over $50,000 in 2005 money.... I think you can get a z33TT for that price that will kill the z32tt...

... waits for people to cry "yea but you don't get a warranty!"

 

That would be fine to compare performance if the cars were out at the same time but not many stock Z32TT's around and the ones that are don't do much with them, mine with just intake/exhaust/Pulley/ECU all for around 1000 bucks will beat any modified NA. People don't look at it by actuallizing dollars but rather that you can now get a Z32TT for around 10-12k add a few bucks and you got a Z32TT that can beat a stock 350Z easily plus modified NA's.

If you bring an FI 350Z into the picture then there are plenty of Z32TT's in the 550 RWHP range with stock blocks.

We just have to get to know the owners and repect what they have and not go into it with the attitude that either is better than the other and if they do then kill them with kindness it is about the Z not 350Z or Z32 or 240Z......

 

Westpak,

Just for clarification when you say: "People don't look at it by actuallizing dollars but rather that you can now get a Z32TT for around 10-12k add a few bucks and you got a Z32TT that can beat a stock 350Z easily plus modified NA's." Do you mean in a drag race or on the track or both? A slightly modded Z32TT should be able to beat a stock Z33 in straight line, but it would be tougher on the Z32TT in the corners (unless it has suspesion and brake mods too), depending on which model Z33 was involved (a Track model with bigger brakes for instance would be better in the corners).

A highly modded NA Z33 with say 340hp (at the crank) and suspension and brake mods would require a Z32TT to have 375hp to 400hp to stay with it in a straight line and be very hard for the Z32TT to stay with in the corners. Obviously Z32TTs can make a much more power than 400hp, but like any car the more power you make above stock the more it costs. My point is the Z32 is a great car (and still a great looking car too), but in stock trim it is heavier and doesn't handle quite as good as the Z33 in stock trim. Once you start getting into mods that becomes a whole different issue. As someone said earlier in this post the Z32TT was $45,000 in the mid 90s. A Track model Z is approximately $36,000 today. It is hard to compare the two given the difference in their ages and costs, but the Z33 in stock trim is a pretty good deal since its performance is as good as that of the stock Z32TT from the mid 90s which cost $10,000 plus more then and much more in today's dollars. Obviously you can buy a used Z32TT for much less today, but you are also looking at a vehicle that is ten years old or more.

By the way I know someone who has one of those 550hp plus Z32TTs and it is very fast, but also very highly modded. Not trying to flame here. I like all Zs, but just trying to point out some differences.

 

Only Z32 owner I've bumped into asked me how it was. I told him I loved it and he just smiled. Haven't had any issues. :shrug:

 

I was looking for a Z32TT before I got the 350...here's the story..

So we get a call from the local dealership, with whom we've had business with for about 20 years. Now mind you, this call was early, and that fact will most likely play into the latter of the story. This guy Chuck tells me they just got a 93 TT, red, manual, 2 seater, and no t tops. I'm like, ok, awesome, score. Let me get it. $9000K, 45K miles, it seemed to be a great buy. So I get in my 280, start talking to it about how i'm going to miss her, etc. Drive 15 mins...

...and I get there, and there she is. Looks a bit big, wtf? 2+2? Wtf...ok...big deal..lower insurance? NA? Oh christ, whatever, ok, as long as it has a man...oh crap, its an auto. I was lied too.

But then I spied this black 350, took it for a spin,and here I am 3 months later. I've only run into 2 Z32 owners...1 was completely awesome, and gave me his number if I ever wanted to go TT and needed help. The other was a dick who challenged me to race in front of his friends (I left, and could care less really). So, eh, it's like any other car really. You will always have some idiot..same with the Z33, any other generation of Z, etc. (well, maybe the 260-Z31, I mean, really, you gotta love Z's for those cars..lol)

 

ZPirate, I agree with you, the Z33 stock will outhandle the Z32 all day long so I guess a short track with lots of turns will be good and short straights My Z32 has all suspension mods done to it and handles great but I would still have to give my 350Z the edge although it also has all suspension mods.

A 340 at the crank 350Z is pushing it tough to get to and not cheap as you would have to throw all NA mods available and engine management as well.

It seems that a lot of the guys here have not met many Z32 owners other than driveby's, would you stop and talk if you were just driving by? maybe you need to make the first gesture and approach them about their car it is not all about the 350Z, or you might want to join a local Z club and get to know other Z owners not just Z32's but Z31/280/260/240 there some great looking older Z's out there and history from some of their owners.