350Z vs. Audi TT Sport (Video)
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Originally Posted by ZPHILE
That's was excellent . I wish he, (Tiff) would get that Top Gear guy's job! He's so much more pleasant and what a pro-driver!!! Thanks for the vid!
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Originally Posted by thezedsled
Like I said, AWD isn't everything. I didn't say it was useless so calm down and take a few deep breaths. I was merely implying that under some track conditions it offers no advantage and can even be a handicap. Every car has its strong points and weak points and they have them for certain reasons. Just because a car has AWD doesn’t make it a supercar. This video is a perfect example of it...
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Originally Posted by heezyo2o
Actually Tiff use to be with top gear before moving to his current show, fifth gear. Tiff looks to be the better driver, but Jeremy Clarkson is much more entertaining IMO.
and he brings out the car's capabilities
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Originally Posted by jvanquish
Tiff knows how to drive
and he brings out the car's capabilities
and he brings out the car's capabilities
Just wondering, why do you always start a new line in the middle of sentences?
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Don't feel too bad. Both the launch of the Z and the TT were speed up by the editing. Both cars didn't launch that fast. The reason why the footage was speed up for both launch was because the real show was on the track, not on the launch. The driver did many laps and they took the best laps from each car to compare. The time was measured from a DIG.
Originally Posted by Mantis3024
I wish I could launch my Z like that
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Here are some other fifth gear lap times. They always use the same track right? I do wish some of the cars driven by vicki were instead piloted by tiff so we could get a better comparison.
350z: 53.19 seconds
Audi TT sport: 54.84 seconds
350z: 53.19 seconds
Audi TT sport: 54.84 seconds
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This is the top gear lap times:
1st Pagani Zonda F - 1.18.4
2nd Maserati MC12 - 1.18.9
3rd Ferrari F60 Enzo - 1.19.0
4th Ariel Atom - 1.19.5
5th Porsche Carerra GT - 1.19.8
Ascari KZ1 - 1.20.7
Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
Ford GT - 1.21.9
Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
Porsche GT3 RS - 1.22.3
Murcielago - 1.23.7
Zonda - 1.23.8
Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
Noble - 1.25.0
Gallardo - 1.25.8
Porsche Cayman - 1.26.2
Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
Chevrolet Corvette - 1.26.8
Mercedes CLS 55 AMG - 1.26.9
Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2
TVR 350C - 1.27.5
BMW M3 CSL - 1.28.0
Marcos TSO GT2 - 1.28.2 NEW
Dodge Viper SRT-10 - 1.28.5
MG SV - 1.28.6
Porsche 911 Carrera S - 1.28.9 (very wet)
Mitsubishi Evo VIII - 1.28.9
BMW Alpine Z8 - 1.29.0
Mercedes CL65 - 1.29
Alfa 3.7 GTA - 1.30.0
Subaru Impreza STI - 1.30.1
Aston Martin DB7 GT - 1.30.4
Vauxhall Monaro VXR - 1.30.16
Audi S4 - 1.30.9
Porsche 911 turbo - 1.31.0
Vauxhall VX 220 turbo - 1.31.3
Honda NSX Type R - 1.31.6
BMW M3 - 1.31.8
Nissan 350Z - 1.31.8
Mazda RX8 - 1.31.8
BMW 535d - 1.31.8
Ford Focus RS - 1.32.2
Lotus Esprit V8 - 1.32.5
Audi TT V6 - 1.32.7
MG ZT - 1.33
Noble - 1.33.1
Mercedes SL 55 AMG - 1.33.2
Volkswagen Golf R32 - 1.33.2
Cadillac CTS-V - 1.33.3
Holden Monaro - 1.33.9
Ford Focus ST - 1.34.9
Volvo S60R - 1.35.0
Ferrari 575 - 1.35.2
Alfa 147 GTA - 1.35.6
Lotus Elise - 1.35.6
Aston Martin Vanquish - 1.36.2
Renault Clio v6 - 1.36.2
Honda Civic Type R - 1.36.5
Saab 95 hot aero - 1.37.9
Mazzer - 1.38.0
Bowler Wildcat - 1.39.4
Bentley Arnarge - 1.40.8
Overfinch - 1.44.0
1st Pagani Zonda F - 1.18.4
2nd Maserati MC12 - 1.18.9
3rd Ferrari F60 Enzo - 1.19.0
4th Ariel Atom - 1.19.5
5th Porsche Carerra GT - 1.19.8
Ascari KZ1 - 1.20.7
Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
Ford GT - 1.21.9
Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
Porsche GT3 RS - 1.22.3
Murcielago - 1.23.7
Zonda - 1.23.8
Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
Noble - 1.25.0
Gallardo - 1.25.8
Porsche Cayman - 1.26.2
Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
Chevrolet Corvette - 1.26.8
Mercedes CLS 55 AMG - 1.26.9
Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2
TVR 350C - 1.27.5
BMW M3 CSL - 1.28.0
Marcos TSO GT2 - 1.28.2 NEW
Dodge Viper SRT-10 - 1.28.5
MG SV - 1.28.6
Porsche 911 Carrera S - 1.28.9 (very wet)
Mitsubishi Evo VIII - 1.28.9
BMW Alpine Z8 - 1.29.0
Mercedes CL65 - 1.29
Alfa 3.7 GTA - 1.30.0
Subaru Impreza STI - 1.30.1
Aston Martin DB7 GT - 1.30.4
Vauxhall Monaro VXR - 1.30.16
Audi S4 - 1.30.9
Porsche 911 turbo - 1.31.0
Vauxhall VX 220 turbo - 1.31.3
Honda NSX Type R - 1.31.6
BMW M3 - 1.31.8
Nissan 350Z - 1.31.8
Mazda RX8 - 1.31.8
BMW 535d - 1.31.8
Ford Focus RS - 1.32.2
Lotus Esprit V8 - 1.32.5
Audi TT V6 - 1.32.7
MG ZT - 1.33
Noble - 1.33.1
Mercedes SL 55 AMG - 1.33.2
Volkswagen Golf R32 - 1.33.2
Cadillac CTS-V - 1.33.3
Holden Monaro - 1.33.9
Ford Focus ST - 1.34.9
Volvo S60R - 1.35.0
Ferrari 575 - 1.35.2
Alfa 147 GTA - 1.35.6
Lotus Elise - 1.35.6
Aston Martin Vanquish - 1.36.2
Renault Clio v6 - 1.36.2
Honda Civic Type R - 1.36.5
Saab 95 hot aero - 1.37.9
Mazzer - 1.38.0
Bowler Wildcat - 1.39.4
Bentley Arnarge - 1.40.8
Overfinch - 1.44.0
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Not sure about the fifth gear times, but I wouldn't take the top gear times as absolute. The different "stigs" have taken completely different lines as well as excessively sliding around the track on the timed laps. Also they at times use a wet track and then lump those times in with completely dry lap times. Overall, it's just for entertainment.
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Great video! Thanks for posting. That guy was genuinely won over by the Z. I can see how with the way he masters it. He was at such ease yet his exuberance shown brilliantly. I was grinning ear to ear and vicariously living through him. In fact, I think I'll watch it again
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You guys dont feel bad. Even though Jeremy Clarkson hates the Z33, he had to present our beautiful machine with the Top Gear Car of the Year Award. Imagine how he felt after bashing on it repeatedly on his show. But the Tiff Needel can drive man. **** he was drifting every corner in the Z! Its quite surprising how the Z beat a 575M, Elise and Englands beloved Noble on the Top Gear track.
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yeah he was a formula one driver. There is an old episode where ferrari actually lets them drive a championship winning ferrari around top gears course and puts it up against clarkson in an F40. They just do a little straight away run and its very close.
There is an on going rumor in the UK that Tiff is actually the Stig on Top Gear...
Derek
There is an on going rumor in the UK that Tiff is actually the Stig on Top Gear...
Derek
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Originally Posted by Nismo 350z
You guys dont feel bad. Even though Jeremy Clarkson hates the Z33, he had to present our beautiful machine with the Top Gear Car of the Year Award. Imagine how he felt after bashing on it repeatedly on his show. But the Tiff Needel can drive man. **** he was drifting every corner in the Z! Its quite surprising how the Z beat a 575M, Elise and Englands beloved Noble on the Top Gear track.
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Originally Posted by jakesford
it wasn't as much as he hated it, he just likes to find the faults in the cars and glorify them... He does it on most of the cars they review. Thats what i like about that show, he will take a $250k supercar and ***** about how the windshield wiper vibrates at speed, and how a button is in the "wrong" place but then he will go back and talk good about it as well.
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I dig that Jeremy guy from top gear... He is hilarious. He may hate our Z but with the problems that GT gives him our little "horrid datsun" is the last thing on his mind.. Good vid thanks for the post
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Reading the car publications from the U.K., I get the impression that they're far more enamored with the Z than their American counterparts (except for Clarkson who everyone agrees dislikes the Z).
The Z doesn't get as much love here anymore in the car mags, not like it did when it just came out.
The Z doesn't get as much love here anymore in the car mags, not like it did when it just came out.
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Originally Posted by zpak
Reading the car publications from the U.K., I get the impression that they're far more enamored with the Z than their American counterparts (except for Clarkson who everyone agrees dislikes the Z).
The Z doesn't get as much love here anymore in the car mags, not like it did when it just came out.
The Z doesn't get as much love here anymore in the car mags, not like it did when it just came out.
because it's not fresh and new anymore, everyone is waiting for another fresh ones, GTR, Supra, and evo X,
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I love both shows!!! I saw someone in one of the TG shows wearing a t-shirt that says "I am the Stig"..... I want one of those!
Also, the've had 2 different stigs... the black stig and the white stig... the black stig "committed suicide" in one of the shows.
Also, the've had 2 different stigs... the black stig and the white stig... the black stig "committed suicide" in one of the shows.