F1 cars are very different from cars like 350Z. F1 cars have advantages in a much lower center of gravity, wide body tires, light weight areodynamics and using the wind to put a lot of weight down on the rear wheels, with those advantages, comes a different type of racing, totally different then the specs of our cars. Cars like the 350Z that go on tracks can't compete with all those advantages. You are comparing Apples to oranges. Also, each racing league and class have their own regulations and rules on what you can and cannot do on the track, specially when taking corners.

 

You sure see Rally cars doing it when traction is a biotch!

 

the cars are set up suspension wise for drifting, not handling ability.

 

dont even try comparing drifting to rallying. Rallying is in a completly different realm.

 

Let's start talking **** after you're a frkn expert.

 

So what you think it takes more skill to turn left on an oval for hundreds of laps than it is to drift a car? Whatever man. If you don't like drifting, then good for you.

 

"man hates that which he can not accomplish"
- someguy



lol just playing with you

I like drifting, it takes SKILL, so does regular racing. Each is a sport, we'll leave it at that.

 

Like it or hate it its comming and only getting bigger. More drivers, and more spectators.

69 Camaro Drift car http://hotrodhomepage.com/?p=70

 

Compare? It's not that far out of the "realm" as you think.

Drifting's history is derived from Rally racing. Guys who drove on the twisty mountain side roads employed the Rally sliding techniques to get their car quicker around some narrow hairpin turns, where there were no outside banks or clean apexes to take.

That little technique evolved into an "on street" form.
It's not a coincidence that some of the best drifters in the world have some sort of Rally experience or Grand Touring background.

I'm not trying to justify drifting as a legitimate motorsport here... just countering the notion that drifting has no performance or racing relevance.


A car must be setup to handle first, before it can be a competitive drift car. You can drift almost any poorly setup rear-wheel drive car, but it doesn't mean you can control it.

 

I agreed with Edge about drifting. Everytime that D1 crap comes on G4TV, I flip the channel. However, I despise NASCAR the most.

 

Awesome, it's not for everyone.

I for one, wish this drifting thing took off on a slower foot here in the states. It's kinda moving along pretty quickly.

It took decades before it became big in Japan, and those guys got alot of flak from other motorsports as well.

 

read thread first, then post.

 

of course it takes skill, but its not a sport.

 

it doesnt have any racing relevance. Sliding around a turn to get around a track or a stage fast as possible is a bit different than intentionally drifting a car completly around a turn. It may have evolved from racing techniques such as that, but it is still a pointless competition. Its along the same lines as a burnout competition.

 

or the same as ice skating, ski jumping, freestyle motocross, bikini contests, or anything else with judges. i dont think it automatically means it sucks tho.

 

it doesnt suck, its just plain stupid.

 

once you start learning drifting, you might change your attitude about drifting... but maybe you won't experience that moment anyway, just from what you said about drifting.

 

Did you discover that Santa isn't real for the first time today or something?

Seriously though, drifing, while not "racing" per se, is probably more of a "sport" than bowling, golf, or heck even Drag Racing. Drag racing (and I mean the big guys, not the crap we Z owners do) goes through tires probably just as fast, and goes through engines a LOT faster. And it doesn't even require a half-turn of the steering wheel. That IMHO makes drag racing even more senseless.

If you've ever been to a drift event, it's hard to say that it doesn't take skill, especially the tandem stuff. I think the key to enjoying it is looking at it for what it is, a judged exhibition of car control under speed, not racing, where crossing the line first or running the most laps in the alloted time is the goal.

I'm certainly not trying to change your mind. We're all entitled to our own opinions, and you sound like your mind is pretty made up.

 

I'm drifting to another thread...cause this one sucks...

 

nah, im just really bored today and i thought this forum needed a good thread like this
Yeah, its about as much of a sport as bowling, golf, etc, but drag racing does make sense to me. Its more of a competitive sport where how fast you can go determines the winner, not a judge deciding who was more sideways. I really dont care for drag racing, nor do i ever watch it though.
I just dont think of drifting as a form of racing. To me the winner is determined by the fastest time, not by a judge who's awarding the winner based on "style" or form. I never said it doesnt take skill, i hate nascar but i still recognize the skill involved.