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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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I'm drifting to another thread...cause this one sucks...
dont let the door hit you on the way out.
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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You are definitely an opinionated guy. Just food for thought. I believe that the more knowledge that a driver can have when handling his car can only be a good thing if it is ever necessary to use. Sometimes drifting a turn can actually improve lap times.

Drifting is not just an art. It involves a lot of driver skill in areas such as control and anticipation. I laugh when I hear idiots saying, "we call that breaking it loose and doing figure eights." It shows their true ignorance. Just go to a local D1 event and you can see the difference among the amateurs versus the pro drivers; Hell you can even see the major difference between the drivers that are ranked #1-3 versus 4-7.

Drifting has a lot of ingredients when it comes to scoring. The judges take in to account the vehicle being used and power. As a AE86 with 180hp would not be able to do the same drift that a 600 hp mustang could do. They also look for extreme drift angle (based on car as well), high speed, and clipping points that the driver must hit in order to avoid point deduction.

Drifting is racing when there is a tandem going on. They have a lead car and a chasing car that "tandem drift" to match/beat each others performance on each run and if the chasing car passes the lead car through a drift a lot of points are rewarded.

Definition of Sport:

-(1a.)Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

-(1b.)A particular form of this activity.

-(2)An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.

-(3)An active pastime; recreation.

Definition of Racing:

In Sports.
(1a.) A competition of speed, as in running or riding.

Based on the true definitions and not some implication of one individual's opinion, drifting is in fact a SPORT and RACING!
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rickdogg
You are definitely an opinionated guy. Just food for thought. I believe that the more knowledge that a driver can have when handling his car can only be a good thing if it is ever necessary to use. Sometimes drifting a turn can actually improve lap times.

Drifting is not just an art. It involves a lot of driver skill in areas such as control and anticipation. I laugh when I hear idiots saying, "we call that breaking it loose and doing figure eights." It shows their true ignorance. Just go to a local D1 event and you can see the difference among the amateurs versus the pro drivers; Hell you can even see the major difference between the drivers that are ranked #1-3 versus 4-7.

Drifting has a lot of ingredients when it comes to scoring. The judges take in to account the vehicle being used and power. As a AE86 with 180hp would not be able to do the same drift that a 600 hp mustang could do. They also look for extreme drift angle (based on car as well), high speed, and clipping points that the driver must hit in order to avoid point deduction.

Drifting is racing when there is a tandem going on. They have a lead car and a chasing car that "tandem drift" to match/beat each others performance on each run and if the chasing car passes the lead car through a drift a lot of points are rewarded.

Definition of Sport:

-(1a.)Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

-(1b.)A particular form of this activity.

-(2)An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.

-(3)An active pastime; recreation.

Definition of Racing:

In Sports.
(1a.) A competition of speed, as in running or riding.

Based on the true definitions and not some implication of one individual's opinion, drifting is in fact a SPORT and RACING!
Yes, i am a very opinionated person when it comes to certain things. No matter how much skill there is, i dont see the point in sliding a car around. I'd much rather spend my time and money towards a worthwhile sport. Drifting will die out eventually, its just another one of those fads.
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by EdgeOfSanity
Yes, i am a very opinionated person when it comes to certain things. No matter how much skill there is, i dont see the point in sliding a car around. I'd much rather spend my time and money towards a worthwhile sport. Drifting will die out eventually, its just another one of those fads.
It very well could be a fad, but it is a fast growing sport and watch out for a lot of companies dropping down pro-drivers to compete in D1 and Formula D.

That is your right to believe whatever you want, but like I have stated to others before, it does not mean that your opinion is correct either. Would you agree with me that based on my findings and partial explanation of drifting that it is in fact a sport and a form of racing?

Off that subject, if you do come to the realization that it is in fact a form of racing/sports I too do hate certain forms of racing such as nascar. I think if I was atleast the driver or part of it first hand then I would not mind so much, but watching it is just brutal. I am the type of person that just loves motorsports and would love to rally, drift, circuit race, off-road, etc

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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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Wrong forum for am anti-drifting post. It should be in, let me think, “Drifting.”

If you look at autocross, open road and drag racing, all select a winner based on time. Either you race against the clock or another driver. Drifting, on the other hand, is about “style.” You can’t lose a drifting competition because there is no competition. Drifting is an advance technique of control: a controlled slide if you will. A slide not to get you any place fast, but just to do it for the sake of doing it.

Interesting that many new drifters are NOT accomplished racers. In other words they have little experience getting them self out of trouble. Despite their lack of racing skills, they will still jump into drifting. Every now and then we see a member here hit a wall. Gee whiz I wonder why?

In ice skating racing, the first to cross the finish line wins. In figure skating, the one who does the coolest moves wins. So drifting is like figure skating.

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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EdgeOfSanity
Yes, i am a very opinionated person when it comes to certain things. No matter how much skill there is, i dont see the point in sliding a car around. I'd much rather spend my time and money towards a worthwhile sport. Drifting will die out eventually, its just another one of those fads.
The above translated means: "Don't confuse me with the facts"
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by EdgeOfSanity
Yes, i am a very opinionated person when it comes to certain things. No matter how much skill there is, i dont see the point in sliding a car around. I'd much rather spend my time and money towards a worthwhile sport. Drifting will die out eventually, its just another one of those fads.
IM a very opinionated person ALSO" I like lawn mower racing. However, I would rather race my car.
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Originally Posted by jakesford
do you see F1 cars drifting around cornors...No, drifting you are actually loosing speed through a cornor.
I believe that F1 (and NASCAR for that matter) do drift. The front and rear tires slide in a corner. Its not extreme, but a balanced car will drift. Of course the difference is that the racer doesn't exaggerate the drift to “look cool.”
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HATER.....must respect all forms of competition....drifting takes a lot of skill and years of practice...can't hate on that
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Originally Posted by Rickdogg
It very well could be a fad, but it is a fast growing sport and watch out for a lot of companies dropping down pro-drivers to compete in D1 and Formula D.

That is your right to believe whatever you want, but like I have stated to others before, it does not mean that your opinion is correct either. Would you agree with me that based on my findings and partial explanation of drifting that it is in fact a sport and a form of racing?

Off that subject, if you do come to the realization that it is in fact a form of racing/sports I too do hate certain forms of racing such as nascar. I think if I was atleast the driver or part of it first hand then I would not mind so much, but watching it is just brutal. I am the type of person that just loves motorsports and would love to rally, drift, circuit race, off-road, etc
yes it is a sport, but no it is not racing.
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kcobean
The above translated means: "Don't confuse me with the facts"
no it does not. I'm simply expressing my dislike for the so called sport of drifting.
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by blackznismo
HATER.....must respect all forms of competition....drifting takes a lot of skill and years of practice...can't hate on that
i respect the skill it takes in any form of competition, it doesnt mean i have to like it.
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So what racing are you into or like watching?? Edge
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 35oZephyR
So what racing are you into or like watching?? Edge
f1 and wrc for the most part. I also watch le mans when i can catch it on speedvision.
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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wrc??? hmmm they seem to drift those turns alot ;-) and i wonder why? perhaps to increase lap times? but hey what do i know ;-)

Also Edge...what sort of racing do you yourself do? Nono street-racing doesn't count.

Although i disagree i definately respect your opinion as each their own
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Originally Posted by EdgeOfSanity
i respect the skill it takes in any form of competition, it doesnt mean i have to like it.
Well put...

Drifting is compelling to me because:

1.) Involves skill mixed with a little showmanship.
2.) Theres a sense of danger
3.) Guys can crash, and do so all the time.
4.) Grassroots guys can be involved easily. Cheap price of entry.
5.) Anything involving car control and a bunch of badass "close to streetable" cars is fun to watch.

As far as it being a competition like F1, WRC, Super GT...hell no.
It's the "WWF" of motorsports.
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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WOW! I just waisted 15 mins of Xmas to see how much Edge thinks Drifting is stupid...another useless thread about one's opinion.
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the only thing i don't like about drifting is that so many kids are getting into it. yeah...i know its a fad but I remember when noone knew what a 240sx was...now every 16yr old wants a 240. I have two friends that have younger brothers who tried drifting in a parking lot and ended crashing their cars. It's attracting unwanted attention for those of us who likes drifting but don't actually participant in it.
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Originally Posted by BBPerformance
wrc??? hmmm they seem to drift those turns alot ;-) and i wonder why? perhaps to increase lap times? but hey what do i know ;-)

Also Edge...what sort of racing do you yourself do? Nono street-racing doesn't count.

Although i disagree i definately respect your opinion as each their own
the only racing i've done myself is drag racing. I'm planning on doing a few track days in the spring and i'm also going to start auto x'ing.
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Originally Posted by ocdavid
WOW! I just waisted 15 mins of Xmas to see how much Edge thinks Drifting is stupid...another useless thread about one's opinion.
glad i could help you kill some time



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