How hard to mod?
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How hard to mod?
Hey all, lemme introduce myself. I'm a 2004 SRT-4 owner. I'm planning on getting a new car in may/june-ish and am deciding between a couple different cars.
But I am wondering how hard is it to mod the 350z? I'll be wanting about 400-450 HP at the wheels. Do any vendors offer any "stage" kits to help you mod the engine along the way? For example, for an EVO www.vishnutuning.com and www.amsperformance.com both offer stages to guide you to certain power levels.
Thanks for all your help. Maybe I'll see you all more often later on.
But I am wondering how hard is it to mod the 350z? I'll be wanting about 400-450 HP at the wheels. Do any vendors offer any "stage" kits to help you mod the engine along the way? For example, for an EVO www.vishnutuning.com and www.amsperformance.com both offer stages to guide you to certain power levels.
Thanks for all your help. Maybe I'll see you all more often later on.
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modding teh Z is nothing like a turbo car. If you want that much power, look into turbo or s/c kits which can cost up to 12000 installed...and 17000 if done right w/ cams and a built engine. it gets epxensive :-D
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Dont know tons about FI but I do know you wont have to spend anywhere near 12-17k. For about 5800$ installed you can have right at 400 rwhp or close to with a turbonetics single turbo system. At most I would say 7k$. Good luck, check out the Forced induction section for more info. there is tons of it. BEN
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Depends how dependable/reliable you want your car to be. Once you go FI you should replace other things such as clutch/flywheel/lsd. All said and done I would guess (with those other parts) your looking at 10Kish for 400whp safely.
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Originally Posted by bstansbu
Dont know tons about FI but I do know you wont have to spend anywhere near 12-17k. For about 5800$ installed you can have right at 400 rwhp or close to with a turbonetics single turbo system. At most I would say 7k$. Good luck, check out the Forced induction section for more info. there is tons of it. BEN
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Modding the Z is easy if you have the benjamins. You will have to go turbo/supercharger, as N/A people are having trouble breaking 300whp. I don't think you need to spend in excess of $8k to safely run boosted on the Z. With the proper tune and given the car isn't excessively beaten to death, the motor should last.
With a ST kit, upgraded clutch/flywheel, exhaust, wider rims/tires, install, and tune, your probably looking at around $8-9k. Given a good tune, you can probably hit around 400whp.
However, if you want to rebuild your engine first, your easily looking at $8k for that, if not more.
With a ST kit, upgraded clutch/flywheel, exhaust, wider rims/tires, install, and tune, your probably looking at around $8-9k. Given a good tune, you can probably hit around 400whp.
However, if you want to rebuild your engine first, your easily looking at $8k for that, if not more.
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Originally Posted by TK2005
That T-netics turbo is maxed out at near 500rwhp. I personally don't want to drive a car that is maxed out all the time.
jesus, more misinformation.
since when is running 9-10psi on a 60-1 making 400whp near maxed out all the time?
for chrissake. get the info right, will you? the 60-1 will make prolly 550whp. However the stage 2 TN kit swaps to a t66 for 550whp (requiring a built motor of course) but the stage 1.5 to come out soon will be 450whp friendly.
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Originally Posted by Armitage
Modding the Z is easy if you have the benjamins. You will have to go turbo/supercharger, as N/A people are having trouble breaking 300whp. I don't think you need to spend in excess of $8k to safely run boosted on the Z. With the proper tune and given the car isn't excessively beaten to death, the motor should last.
With a ST kit, upgraded clutch/flywheel, exhaust, wider rims/tires, install, and tune, your probably looking at around $8-9k. Given a good tune, you can probably hit around 400whp.
However, if you want to rebuild your engine first, your easily looking at $8k for that, if not more.
With a ST kit, upgraded clutch/flywheel, exhaust, wider rims/tires, install, and tune, your probably looking at around $8-9k. Given a good tune, you can probably hit around 400whp.
However, if you want to rebuild your engine first, your easily looking at $8k for that, if not more.
upgraded clutch/fw = $900
exhaust = $900
rims/tires = $3000
Install and tune = $2K
Total = $12,300 by your parts list......where do you get $8K from?
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Originally Posted by chimmike
jesus, more misinformation.
since when is running 9-10psi on a 60-1 making 400whp near maxed out all the time?
for chrissake. get the info right, will you? the 60-1 will make prolly 550whp. However the stage 2 TN kit swaps to a t66 for 550whp (requiring a built motor of course) but the stage 1.5 to come out soon will be 450whp friendly.
since when is running 9-10psi on a 60-1 making 400whp near maxed out all the time?
for chrissake. get the info right, will you? the 60-1 will make prolly 550whp. However the stage 2 TN kit swaps to a t66 for 550whp (requiring a built motor of course) but the stage 1.5 to come out soon will be 450whp friendly.
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Originally Posted by TK2005
ST kit = $5500
upgraded clutch/fw = $900
exhaust = $900
rims/tires = $3000
Install and tune = $2K
Total = $12,300 by your parts list......where do you get $8K from?
upgraded clutch/fw = $900
exhaust = $900
rims/tires = $3000
Install and tune = $2K
Total = $12,300 by your parts list......where do you get $8K from?
Aren't there ST kits out there for around $4k though?
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Originally Posted by Armitage
I was typing too fast for my brain. What I meant to say was the kit, with install and tune would be around $8k. Thats my bad.
Aren't there ST kits out there for around $4k though?
Aren't there ST kits out there for around $4k though?
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Originally Posted by TK2005
LOL......so you're freaking out because I was off by an alleged 50hp that no one has gotten to yet? No one is talking about the stage 2 kit that isn't even out yet for an unknown price. Take it easy junior. You like your kit? Good for you. Even in your quote you say "prolly 550whp" so it isn't like I have my facts wrong.
yeah, you do have your facts wrong, because the turbonetics kit is run nowhere near the limits of the turbo. And even if it was, you're not at perpetual 20psi all the time, are you? I mean, you don't drive an EVO or STi do you? Oh wait, they run at the limits of their turbos all the time and don't have problems...................................sure makes you think.
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Has anyone yet to try the AGP kit?
http://www.agpturbo.com/product.php?...cat=293&page=1
I don't really have to worry about install costs, just dynotime and cost for parts.
http://www.agpturbo.com/product.php?...cat=293&page=1
I don't really have to worry about install costs, just dynotime and cost for parts.
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Originally Posted by chimmike
yeah, you do have your facts wrong, because the turbonetics kit is run nowhere near the limits of the turbo. And even if it was, you're not at perpetual 20psi all the time, are you? I mean, you don't drive an EVO or STi do you? Oh wait, they run at the limits of their turbos all the time and don't have problems...................................sure makes you think.
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Has anyone yet to try the AGP kit?
http://www.agpturbo.com/product.php?...cat=293&page=1
I don't really have to worry about install costs, just dynotime and cost for parts.
http://www.agpturbo.com/product.php?...cat=293&page=1
I don't really have to worry about install costs, just dynotime and cost for parts.
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Lets put it this way... I have an 05 SRT4 sitting in my driveway, do u wanna see a picture of its current state... i haven't driven it in a long time even though its about a second faster then my 350Z in the 1/4 (about 12.8 @106.XX) instead of maxing it out for another 13 grand, im going with a FI kit,Clutch FW and some rims instead. Hope that clears things up. (oh and i test drove an EVO and STi before getting my Z)