how good is the tip, & anyone got the 0 - 60 time, cheers. D

 

I measured mine, 0-60 @ 5.3 sec. Sometimes as high as 5.5, but nothing higher. Used a Gtech to get these numbers.

 

If a 03-04 6spd and 5AT raced would there be a dramatic difference between the two, using tiptronic to manually shift?

 

i am not quite sure but i got an automatic 03. Anyone have a 6 spd? let's find out how big of a difference it would be. I do thinkthere should be a significant gap.

 

I think you guys will have better luck finding 0-60 and 1/4 times in the drag section.

I think the top stock 1/4 times were 13.6 for both the MT and AT.

I think Motor Trend did about 5.3s 0-60 with a 6MT in one of their articles but I've heard of forum members doing better than that with both the stock 5AT and 6MT.

With the original engines, the 5AT and a highly-skilled 6MT were about even.

With the new rev-up motors there may be a difference because the 5ATs have more torque but the 6MT have more horsepower.

 

Hi whats the gearing on the TIP / AT = mph per 1000 revs. or what speed do they do at bang on half revs, & what does your manual show at half revs, cheers. D

 

me too

 

I'm confused.

I thought tiptronic was a Porsche/Audi feature. I thought it was an automatic that could be shifted either auto, auto manual stick, or most importantly from buttons mounted in the steering wheel.

Does the Z have this system or any system that is steering wheel controlled?

The G35C I test drove had a auto manual stick and I wasn't impressed with the forced downshifts. You couldn't hit the gas as you were downshifting and get it to use the tranny to slow down as older cars do. From what I understand the newer G's and Z's will now automatically rev the motor and drop in it in gear when you select it now. That is as long as you aren't over reving it to get that gear.

Is this true now? Or, is there still a lot of hesistation upon the selection of the lower gear for sprited driving.

Hence, the reason I bought a 6spd in the Z.

 

I have a friend owned a auto G and I had a chance to drive his auto G
I think auto tranny is way difference between Z and G

 

Me and my brother both have 350zr's, his is a automatic and mine is a 6mt, we've raced several times up to about 60 mph and each time i've slightly pulled ahead of him. There pretty close to each other, but IMO i think the 6mt are about 0.2' quicker to 0-60, that being if the 6mt driver actually knows how to drive a manual.

 

If the 6mt is just a average driver they may be suprised at how quick the 5AT can be

 

You won't be able to tell that on the 5AT. It has a torque converter and it has the ability to gear down by having the stator adjust the vortex flow in the torque converter. Basically, the 5AT has variable gearing when the torque converter is not coupled or locked.

 

Tiptronic is a Porsche trademark but because it was the first and most recognizeable it became a generic term to describe an automatic sequential transmission that is torque converter based. F1 is the generic name for an automatic sequential transmission that uses gear spindles and friction plates. Just like Kleenex came to be the same as facial tissue and Xerox became the same as photocopy.

The automatic downshift rev-matching makes it easier to use engine braking. When you shift from a higher gear to a lower gear in either the 6MT or 5AT the drive wheels are transmitting torque back to the engine through the transmission. Because the engine is spinning slower in the higher gear there is little engine braking effect. If you wanted to increase engine braking in the 6MT, you would blip the throttle while downshifting. The pre-MY05 5AT in manual-mode you had to do this by determining how much throttle you needed to create the engine braking effect without causing a significant over-rev condition when shifting. Lifting too much off the throttle creates a slow or sloppy shift, giving it too much throttle prevents it form shifting or it delays your shift. You just sort of get a feel for the manual shift downshifts in the pre-MY05 5AT over time. It's becomes easier when the 5AT tranny adapts to the driver. The MY05+ 5AT does this automatically. The more engine compression you create the better the engine braking effect becomes.

 

OK, the adaptive shifting is new to me on this tranny. I have that is other cars so I understand. In my other cars, it shifted softly until I drove it a while.
I guess I hadn't driven the 5AT long enough for it to get used to my shifts cause I couldn't get it to downshift with a dang bipping the thottle, holding a little pressure on the thottle during downshifts, or whatever. So, I didn't really like it that much...... I should drive one again just so I see if it really any good or not. I wasn't impressed and couldn't see doing any mountain/road racing with that AT.

Thanks for your guys info.

The question is still out there..... Does the G or Z have steering wheel shift +/- buttons now?

 

Nope, not on the Z.

 

No, but.... I suspect that the shifter is just hitting electrical switches anyway in the manual mode and not doing anything mechanical. Might be possible to add switches to the wheel.

 

I've gone on mountain and canyon runs in my 5AT and hadn't had any problems. I actually drove it better in the 5AT than when I had the MT. I'm not going to claim mad shifting skills but I'm not that bad either. If worst comes to worst you can always just stick the 5AT back into auto-mode. In addition to being driver adaptive, it is enviromental adaptive. It continually monitors the enviroment, including incline, and adapts. The most likely reason I can think of why Nissan didn't add paddles or buttons to the steering wheel is cost. It cost more to do that. But, apparently it's not just quite as easy as it sounds to just add some switch controls to the steering wheel. You will have to modiy the software also. Somebody on 350ZMotoring added buttons to his 5AT and he mentioned that the shifts were so delayed that he had to push the buttons early to get it to shift at the right time.

BTW If you're happy with the 6MT, why would you want to get a 5AT? If you enjoying shifting and operating the clutch, I think you'll will be unhappy with it.

 

roger that.... i drive a 5AT but i rarely use the triptonic feature....

 

I'm not really considering one. I just didn't understand the tiptronic statement. I thought maybe someone was saying there was a new system out for the G and Z that I might want to look at.

I'm thinking of trading my Sable in for a Auto G35C if they had a better AT system like a tiptronic that had more positive control.

Originally, I was going to trade my ZX and Sable for a G. However the Z was so much cheaper and nicer I decided just to buy the Z, sell the ZX, and keep the Sable as a Daily Driver. That keeps the miles off of the Z. The Sable will eventually give out and I'll need another daily driver and would like to get something with 4 seats to replace that car. Why not something that has some guts and style. There is a nice mountain road I like to take on the way home sometimes to beat traffic. The Sable does OK but the Z rocks on that road the few times I have taken it to work.

It would just be nice if when the time comes if I could get a AT G35C if the system is better than I thought or there is some improvements.

I will have the Z for at least 10 years ..... However, the Sable is 7 years old and will have to be replaced in a year or two.

Just hoping they come up with a better system by then. If not, I'll just start to use the 350Z as the Daily Driver and buy another one sooner than later. I just love these cars !!! This is my sixth Z car.

For grins this is the ZX I sold which had 200K miles on it and what it looked like last year when I sold it:



And the one before that:



I also own a '01 Pathfinder and have owned an Altima as well. You might say I'm a Nissan kinda car. Dad hates it cause he worked 40 years for Ford. He says da#n Jap cars .... Lol !!!