Driving the MT is a 100000X more fun than my AT...
02-23-2006, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Joeys_z
There is no such thing as an automatic sportscar!!!
So a auto supra tt was never a sports car? Auto z32tt was never a sports car? Auto porsche tt is not a sports car? Auto c5 & c6 corvettes arent sports cars? Do some research before you embarass yourself dude.
02-23-2006, 12:03 PM
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My AT shifts when I want it to shift, up or down.
And with the Valve Body upgrade, it's way firmer...
And I have the luxery of driving stop-and-go traffic in a very comfortable way.
And drag racing, it shifts faster than a human driver could
I used to drive MTs, a modded Matra Bagheera, Porsche 924S, Mazda Formula 4, Eclipse, ... I drove Supra TT AT, SCed Trans Am AT, ... and now the 350Z AT. I really like the 350Z AT with the VB upgrade (my Trans Am had the same) and I think it is the best of all the ATs. For this city, I definitely prefer it above the MT while it still allows me to have great fun at the Drag track and in the mountains.
Danny
And with the Valve Body upgrade, it's way firmer...
And I have the luxery of driving stop-and-go traffic in a very comfortable way.
And drag racing, it shifts faster than a human driver could
I used to drive MTs, a modded Matra Bagheera, Porsche 924S, Mazda Formula 4, Eclipse, ... I drove Supra TT AT, SCed Trans Am AT, ... and now the 350Z AT. I really like the 350Z AT with the VB upgrade (my Trans Am had the same) and I think it is the best of all the ATs. For this city, I definitely prefer it above the MT while it still allows me to have great fun at the Drag track and in the mountains.
Danny
02-23-2006, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by charlie_rdstr_Z
You can get a shift boot that makes it look like a manual. There's this guy on the G35 boards with a fake clutch pedal on his auto G35c. 
02-23-2006, 05:00 PM
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My ideal transmission would be a DSG like gearbox... with NON-sequential functionality. Think of a six speed manual Z. Now remove the clutch pedal. That's it. A traditional manual car except the computer controls the clutch. No cheapass paddle-shifters or buttons here, a real honest to god stickshift without a clutch. Ex: You can still go directly from 6th to 4th bypassing 5th if you want to. Just have a button on the steering wheel next to the cruise control to set it in "auto" mode where it acts like an automatic. That'll be the first and only automatic I'll ever own as my primary transportation. Let me know when someone designs one. 
Anyone else like the idea, or is it just me? The biggest complaint almost everyone has with a manual transmission is the clutch. Remove that, keep everything else, and why would anyone want a traditional "park-and-drive" auto in anything meant to be even mildly fun to drive? If someone could pull it off, they'd make lotsa money.
Anyone else like the idea, or is it just me? The biggest complaint almost everyone has with a manual transmission is the clutch. Remove that, keep everything else, and why would anyone want a traditional "park-and-drive" auto in anything meant to be even mildly fun to drive? If someone could pull it off, they'd make lotsa money.
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Dam I guess that makes me a hypocrite and a hater then...
02-23-2006, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lzaffuto
My ideal transmission would be a DSG like gearbox... with NON-sequential functionality. Think of a six speed manual Z. Now remove the clutch pedal. That's it. A traditional manual car except the computer controls the clutch. No cheapass paddle-shifters or buttons here, a real honest to god stickshift without a clutch. Ex: You can still go directly from 6th to 4th bypassing 5th if you want to. Just have a button on the steering wheel next to the cruise control to set it in "auto" mode where it acts like an automatic. That'll be the first and only automatic I'll ever own as my primary transportation. Let me know when someone designs one.
Anyone else like the idea, or is it just me? The biggest complaint almost everyone has with a manual transmission is the clutch. Remove that, keep everything else, and why would anyone want a traditional "park-and-drive" auto in anything meant to be even mildly fun to drive? If someone could pull it off, they'd make lotsa money.
Anyone else like the idea, or is it just me? The biggest complaint almost everyone has with a manual transmission is the clutch. Remove that, keep everything else, and why would anyone want a traditional "park-and-drive" auto in anything meant to be even mildly fun to drive? If someone could pull it off, they'd make lotsa money.
I don't think Toyota uses it anymore and they probably would like people to forget about it. There's also the Zeroshift transmission but you won't find it on any production cars.http://www.zeroshift.com/products/index.htm
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02-24-2006, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Aggro_Al
The have one. It's called the Toyota SMT and it sucks.
The Zeroshift looks interesting though.
02-24-2006, 01:40 PM
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IMO automatics (I'm not talking about SMG's or DSG's or anything like that)are put in most mass manufactured sports cars for sales purposes. sure cars like the s2000, viper and lotus would sell a hell of a lot more if they were offered with an automatic, but the manufacturers decided against it because they wanted to keep the "sports car" perception untainted. they're essentially saying if you can't drive a stick then don't buy this car. and I actually really respect them for that.
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Originally Posted by showstoppertk
IMO automatics (I'm not talking about SMG's or DSG's or anything like that)are put in most mass manufactured sports cars for sales purposes. sure cars like the s2000, viper and lotus would sell a hell of a lot more if they were offered with an automatic, but the manufacturers decided against it because they wanted to keep the "sports car" perception untainted. they're essentially saying if you can't drive a stick then don't buy this car. and I actually really respect them for that.
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Originally Posted by aonic
how much is a VB upgrade, Danny?
http://www.ultimatez.com/shop/index....08&cart=437467
There are others too, heard that the Level10 might be even better... 800$ at http://www.levelten.com/store/
Speaking of LEVEL 10, they also have a mod which let you shft up and down to ANY gear with the 5AT, so from 5 to 2 if you wanted...
http://www.levelten.com/store/import...shiftronic.htm
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Originally Posted by lzaffuto
My ideal transmission would be a DSG like gearbox... with NON-sequential functionality. Think of a six speed manual Z. Now remove the clutch pedal. That's it. A traditional manual car except the computer controls the clutch. No cheapass paddle-shifters or buttons here, a real honest to god stickshift without a clutch. Ex: You can still go directly from 6th to 4th bypassing 5th if you want to. Just have a button on the steering wheel next to the cruise control to set it in "auto" mode where it acts like an automatic. That'll be the first and only automatic I'll ever own as my primary transportation. Let me know when someone designs one.
Anyone else like the idea, or is it just me? The biggest complaint almost everyone has with a manual transmission is the clutch. Remove that, keep everything else, and why would anyone want a traditional "park-and-drive" auto in anything meant to be even mildly fun to drive? If someone could pull it off, they'd make lotsa money.
Anyone else like the idea, or is it just me? The biggest complaint almost everyone has with a manual transmission is the clutch. Remove that, keep everything else, and why would anyone want a traditional "park-and-drive" auto in anything meant to be even mildly fun to drive? If someone could pull it off, they'd make lotsa money.