Most agree the rotary(invented by a chap named Wankel and used by Audi before Mazda bought the rights to produce it) needs to be rebuilt every 70-80,000 miles. Its fuel mileage has always been poor and Mazda has fallen on hard times lately, quality-wise. The new 6 and the RX-8 seem to be good efforts in the company's road back to respecability. If these babies have to trash the 350Z to aid their return, so be it.

Only fools and insecure children seem to need to resort to tearing something successful down in their posts. Their ignorance is appalling, they could have us as allies, if they didn't choose their present stance of Anti-Z. Oh, they seem to have lifted our registration form intact from this site. I started to register, but decided I didn't want to talk to any of them, it would be a complete waste of my time.

 

I agree completely with what VandyZ says. Thats pretty much the main reason I brought it up. I don't think allot of us trash the RX-8 if any when we talk about it, so when I go check out RX-8 Forums this really surprised me. Even to go so far as to state that we were all fake in a sense. Ah well. I guess you really can't do much about people like that.

 

Screw that article!!! I doubt you'd find ONE Z OWNER here that would actually chose the Mach 1 over the S2K.

 

I probably would I wouldn't want to try to fit in an S2K day after day, and have no desire for a convertible outside of my old Jeep.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Ford fan, and don't like the design other than the power. If given the choice between only those two cars, I'd have to hold my nose and take the Ford.

Nothing against the S2K, it just wouldn't fit what I need/want in a car. I'm sure it is great.

 

Wow. The irony of that post is awesome. He talks about a car that copies detroit, and he backs the 8 which quite literally WILL BE BUILT in detroit!! Well, not in detroit, but in Michigan anyway. And he also talks about sluggish performance, while the Z has better 1/4 mile, better 0-60, better skidpad, and better break numbers. Amusing.

 

This post was brought to my attention by one of the Z brethren. I don't own one, but I can fully respect the car.

So once he told me what was going down, I just felt the need to point out the fact that when on tour in the Auto Alliance plant in Dearborn (detroit, basically), our tour guide pointed out "And if you look over there, that's part of the Mazda assembly lines" and when we get to the end, you'll see your Cougars and the Mazdas being rolled off the line and into Quality Control. So if your car is a "detroit copy", then what's his?

i'm not even going to TRY to respond to the Mustang comparisons. it must have been hard enough to dream that stuff up to begin with...

uRiDiAN

 

I just visited the Mazda world site listed in the offending thread. I came to a pretty simple conclusion. The chief A**hole is trying to drum up business for his new website. Since the Z is the hottest car on the block, we are a target and I would guess attacking the Z is the easiest way to pack his site.

LowRent webmaster recruits fools and children to agree with his cronies' posts. He probably paid the dipstick kid to post his own language, ie. he wrote it himself. Time to ignore such a feeble scam and let it die w/o comment, no traffic, no website.

Besides, Chrysler has owned a hefty chunk of Mazda for MANY years. Yawn.

 

Ah so thats it. Figures.

Btw, I thought it was Ford who had the stake in Mazda...

 

First the RX-8 isn't out yet is it? Let's see what it can do before talking any trash (I mean this to those guys on the RX-8 site).


Now as for the S2000. First of all it is not a "drag car". It can put up some good numbers but it is not designed to be a drag car. I don't drop my clutch and so I don't see those low 0-60 times.

Now the S2000 is more of a "track car". To see what I mean look at the S2000 vs Mach 1 test (with the 350Z). The Mustang was soooo much more powerful than the S2000 (It was a very green engine not broken in yet so it was only 6.2 0-60).

The Mustang killed the S2000 by like 10 seconde in the 0-140 times. But put them on the track and the "wimpy" S2000 was faster than the Mustang.

I happen to think that if the S2000 was more broken in it might have challanged the 350Z at the track. Who knows?

 

You're right, brainfade. Ford does own part of them. Maybe the deal was done by Iaccoca before Henry Ford fired him and he ended up at CHRYSLER. Anyway, my impression remains the same. Still lowrent, still trolling for guppies or gullibles.

 

Are you refering to me posting the link, the first post that started the thread on the offending web site, or both? If you are going to attack me I'll defend myself by saying that I decided to bring it to the attention of the members of the board, thats all. But I guess giving them trafic is too good for them so we should let em get away with calling us fakes and liars am I correct? And whats with the brainfade? I honestly didn't know chrystler had anything to do with the deal until you posted. Anyways, peace.

 

No attack intended with you at all posting the link. Defending ourselves is up to individual members, do what you want. The brainfade remark came from my misremembering who purchased a large part of Mazda in the U.S.A. I thought it was CHRYSLER at first, but I was corrected, FORD owns stock in Mazda. Lee Iaccoco ran Ford for years before Henry Ford II fired him. He may have done the deal for Ford before he went to Chrysler, OK?

No need to defend yourself against me. I'm on your side, remember? I own VIN#1434, preordered 2/12/02, received 9/6/02, a 2003 Nissan 350Z Touring/Brickyard/Frost Leather/5AT.

Are we clear now? If not, re-read what I posted.

Boomer

 

Damn Boomer, had me worried there for a seccond. . Yeah we're cool. Thx for clearing up that lil misunderstanding. Its my fault for jumping to conclusions like that. I hope you continue to enjoy your Z for many miles to come .

Peace.

 

AHAHAHA, you just cracked me up, Droidekaus!!! LOL big time.

 

I didn't want to waste my time registering over there but maybe someone who already did should post the R and T article in which the Z hung with the 911, Z06, and the M3. The "David and Goliath" article.

 

Did anyone actually bring up the fact that Mazda is owned by Ford, so say the Z is a copy from Detroit is a useless argument, since the RX-8 is being manufactured by a Detroit company. No need to copy Detroit, it is Detroit.

 

Ford doesn't own Mazda, they own a large amount of stock in Mazda whch is why some of their models have been previously built in Detroit/Dearborn. I have no idea where Mazda is building the RX8.

 

In any case, Mazda is much more closely related to "Detroit" than Nissan, which makes Dumbass' argument that much more retarded...

 

Actually, Ford owns controlling interest in Mazda and therefore runs the company, but WashUJon is correct, this is a dumbass argument, if you like the way the Z looks great, if you don't, great. Not everyone like the way cars look. Personally, I think the RX-8 is ugly as sin, but I have always loved the last generation RX-7.

 

I'll probably be moderated over there, but here's a response to "Hercules"

MY response:

Jesus H. Christ. I came here as a friendly observer a couple of months ago, but you REALLY need to lay off the Mazda Kool-Aid, man. You should stop while you're ahead in building the 8 into some kind of Super Car that it WILL NOT be. You're only setting yourself up for dissappointment if you insist on going down this road.

Why don't you wait until an actual test comes out before you continue to make this asinine sh*t up. I like the 8 and think it's a pretty cool car, but 350Zs everywhere will not hesitate for a minute to show anyone of you what REAL TORQUE at 2K RPM means on the street if you continue this delusional self-fluffing.