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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Z_freak
Thanks MD, I understand hyperextending the clutch because mine does it going into reverse, if i let off a little from the floor it goes in better(that does not sound right but ok)...., I more wanted to find out if a pedal stop on the oem would extend the life and also if I put a Nismo clutch in would it work with that......
Not sure you'd really reap any benifit. Its usually smaller diameter, unsprung, or mutiple disc clutches that suffer from overstroke. The Nismo clutch should not suffer from the problem since it is a single disc, sprung hub.

Remeber you also have to disable the Kill switch on the clutch that does not allow the car to start if the clutch is not fully depressed if you put in a pedal stop.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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The Kill switch is really easy to get to work if you have a pedal stop...

pop out the rubber stopper on the tab that sticks out to press the trigger... put a bolt in there with 2 nuts... adjust it so it hits the trigger when your clutch pedal hits the pedal stop

or... just jump the two wires... :-/
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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The later Zs were designed with a higher engagement so you dont' have to push the clutch as far. It was done so you spend less time during a shift.

I rarely push the clutch all the way down.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Does anyone know who makes a "pedal stopper" for the Z ? It's a billet piece that screws on the floor (under the clutch pedal) so you can push the clutch all the way down, but negates that empty travel where the clutch doesn't engage? I tried searching the web, but I'm not sure what it's called. I saw it in Bavarian Autosport (catalogue of aftermarket parts for BMWs) but have since threw it away. Anyone?
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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all the way down on every gear.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Is it the design of the clutch/flywheel that makes the 1-2-3 shift not as smooth as other cars?
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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How to make a pedal stop:

2.5" x 4" piece of sheet metal with 5 holes in it...

1 on each corner and one in the middle...

Weld a nut over the middle hole...

put a nut on a bolt and turn it till it is at the head of the bolt...

thread bolt into center nut so it sticks out...

place on firewall at a location where the bolt will come into contact with the back of the clutch pedal...

make a hole in the firewall for the bolt (IF NEEDED)...

fasten to firewall with self tapping screws / rivets...

DO NOT DRILL OR ANYTHING TO FAR PAST THE FIREWALL!


Done!


How to adjust:

W/ the car OFF... Lift the rear wheels off the ground...

Put car in gear (2nd 3rd doesnt really matter) ((CAR OFF REMEMBER))

Have a buddy try turning the rear wheels (forward)... while the wheels are trying to be turned, slowly press down the clutch until the rear wheels spin freely... once they spin freely this is the point in which the clutch is released...

For OEM Clutch, set the pedal stop to travel 1"-1.25" AFTER the above point...

For TILTON Clutch, set the pedal stop to travel UP to .5" after the above point...
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rockinbboy
The later Zs were designed with a higher engagement so you dont' have to push the clutch as far. It was done so you spend less time during a shift.

I rarely push the clutch all the way down.
I noticed this too on my 2005. I usually do about 1/2-3/4 of the way. A little experimentation showed i could get away with more like 1/4-1/2 without grinding and it actually feels smoother to me.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mdracer76
Not sure you'd really reap any benifit. Its usually smaller diameter, unsprung, or mutiple disc clutches that suffer from overstroke. The Nismo clutch should not suffer from the problem since it is a single disc, sprung hub.

Remeber you also have to disable the Kill switch on the clutch that does not allow the car to start if the clutch is not fully depressed if you put in a pedal stop.

Thanks MD, not going to put one it if there is no benefit to it....appreciate the insight.....
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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mine is like halfway
i love it! i used to try to clutch all the way to the floor before but i noticed it wouldnt feel smooth
maybe the old owner switch the engagement point i guess
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason@Performance
How to make a pedal stop:

2.5" x 4" piece of sheet metal with 5 holes in it...

1 on each corner and one in the middle...

Weld a nut over the middle hole...

put a nut on a bolt and turn it till it is at the head of the bolt...

thread bolt into center nut so it sticks out...

place on firewall at a location where the bolt will come into contact with the back of the clutch pedal...

make a hole in the firewall for the bolt (IF NEEDED)...

fasten to firewall with self tapping screws / rivets...

DO NOT DRILL OR ANYTHING TO FAR PAST THE FIREWALL!


Done!


How to adjust:

W/ the car OFF... Lift the rear wheels off the ground...

Put car in gear (2nd 3rd doesnt really matter) ((CAR OFF REMEMBER))

Have a buddy try turning the rear wheels (forward)... while the wheels are trying to be turned, slowly press down the clutch until the rear wheels spin freely... once they spin freely this is the point in which the clutch is released...

For OEM Clutch, set the pedal stop to travel 1"-1.25" AFTER the above point...

For TILTON Clutch, set the pedal stop to travel UP to .5" after the above point...
Is there anywhere we can just buy it? I'm not exactly a machine shop owner nor do I know anyone with this type of equiptment...
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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I dont know if we have any more left around...

Ill check... if so, sure... if not... I can get some more made...
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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I push the cluch all the way to the floor. Otherwise it grinds on 2nd and 3rd.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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I had a hard time getting a smooth ride out of it before, but after messing around I discovered that pushing it halfway gives me a smooth ride. I guess some other members discovered that also. If I push it all the way down, it jerks pretty hard when I release it. Halfway = almost smooth as silk.

Whats weird is I ask people if its normal to push the clutch half way and they tell me that it should be all the way to the floor or you will damage something.

Is it really okay to be driving like this?
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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I push my to the floor so I don't **** **** up. If I tried saving time by only depressing the pedal enough to engage the clutch, I would end up tearing stuff up on accident
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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dont push down at all
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dkmesa350z
I push my to the floor so I don't **** **** up. If I tried saving time by only depressing the pedal enough to engage the clutch, I would end up tearing stuff up on accident
Im not doing it to save time actually, im just doing it for regular driving to get the car to shift smoothly. I can't seem to get it smooth without doing that.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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I found some extra pedal stops...

They will be $8.50 Shipped.

PM me for purchase info...
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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good topic, i was wondering this too as when i first got my z which is my first manual i was pushing all the way to the floor and would get sloppy shifts. when i figured i could get away with only about 1/2 a push my shifts are hardly recognized, which is how a manual should feel, like an auto but faster.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Hey Jason, do you have any pics of the pedal stops? Post 'em!
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