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Old 08-01-2006, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MRfire
Same here...it's called residual lease. And with the $5k I put down on my four year lease I will only owe 13k at lease end (which happens to be this Feb.).

PS. My payments have only been $288 for the past three years
hold up ... miscalculation .... you said 4 year lease?

$5000 down payment
48 payments @ $288 for an 2003 Enthusiast = $13824
$13,000 to buy back without taking out a loan

new GRRRRRRRand total = $31,824

all for a BRAND NEW 2003 Z!

Originally Posted by MRfire
Yah, $28k for my brand new Z with interest. Not a good deal my a$$.
Still think you got a GRRRRRRRRRRRRReat deal?

Originally Posted by MRfire
Now go insert your foot back into your mouth....fukin moron
hmm was wondering who should be inserting who's foot in who's mouth?

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Old 08-01-2006, 11:48 AM
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waiting anxiously for MRfire's response........

EDIT: I bought mine by the way....24,400 ...04 model a year and a half ago.
Old 08-01-2006, 11:52 AM
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dutchboy350Z
Lets see ...
$5000+ down payment
36 payments @ $288 = $10368
plus $13,000 to buy back (assuming you have $13,000 in you saving account).

Total $28,368.

If you don't ... a loan for $13,000 financed for 4 years @ 8% (very conservative, more like 9%) will cost you $317.37 a month and you'll pay $2233.66 in interest over the 4 years of making payments towards your loan.

previous total plus $2233.66 = $30601.66 ... in other words not a good financial move.
Assuming a sale price of $28,000 and putting $5K down, to hold the title in your hand you're going to pay $5,646 in interest at 9% over 60 months, which means the car will really cost you $33,646, not including taxes.

I guess when it comes down to it, it depends on your needs. If you need a lower monthly payment to get in the car you want, a lease with the intent to buy out isn't a horrible idea, even if it costs you a few bucks down the road. It may not be the most financially prudent thing to do, but the whole premise of modding a car is financially irresponsible, so it's completely irrelavent given the topic of your original post.
Old 08-01-2006, 12:00 PM
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A lease is basically used for two purposes;
1) Perfect for somebody that cannot afford to buy it
2) Used as a business vehicle.

THE END
Old 08-01-2006, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kcobean
Assuming a sale price of $28,000 and putting $5K down, to hold the title in your hand you're going to pay $5,646 in interest at 9% over 60 months, which means the car will really cost you $33,646, not including taxes.

I guess when it comes down to it, it depends on your needs. If you need a lower monthly payment to get in the car you want, a lease with the intent to buy out isn't a horrible idea, even if it costs you a few bucks down the road. It may not be the most financially prudent thing to do, but the whole premise of modding a car is financially irresponsible, so it's completely irrelavent given the topic of your original post.
Well considering I'm taking my own personal experience ... I bought my used Roadster for $34,650 and put $18,000 down. The other $16,650 I'm financing @ 9% and it will paid off within the next year. Total interest I will pay comes to under $500.

As I said before I went off topic when one of the posters starting throwing Dealership terms around trying to think he was the ****.
Old 08-01-2006, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dutchboy350Z
I won't stoop to your 4th grade level.

Um it's not a brand new Z. It was a "brand new" Z when you originally leased it. The $28K total was if you had $13k in your savings account.
Considering you're leasing a car you couldn't originally afford, I seriously doubt you have 13 grand laying around. i.e. you'll have to take out a loan.
So the latter price would be $30,000+.

Also you must have the dealt with the dealership from heaven ... what dealership is going to knock of 3 grand because you asked?
LOL, clueless...love it.

First off, I leased it because I have two other cars and a bike and at only $288 a mo., why not? I spend more then that on beer and food in a week. $13k in my savings account? C'mon man...I would hope so, not to mention I am financially savvy when it comes to investments. Something I'm sure you're not acquainted with if you think $13k is a lot of money to have in a savings account. Hypothetically, if I didn't have the cash....I would still be getting a deal. The car is an 03' performance....better check the numbers again with your ninth grade math skills.

Regarding my Jeep (Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limtied)...yes, $3k off. Dealers don't WANT your lease back and will do what it takes to keep it in your garage. It's like starting all over again with the negotiation process. Ignorant people like yourself really crack me up. I'm hoping you're a still a teenager that hasn't experienced the "real" world yet. Everything is negotiable these days my man. Not to mention, there are a bazillion types of financing/lease programs out there. Contrary to what you hear, they are not all bad.

Don't sell yourself short....go to school and keep your eyes open

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Old 08-01-2006, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kcobean
Eh...let's not let this turn into one of THOSE threads, K.
you're right ... I just don't like being called a "fuking moron".

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Old 08-01-2006, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dutchboy350Z
you're right ... I just don't like being called a "fuking moron".
I hear ya....You did group everyone modding a leased car into the "knucklehead" category though.
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Originally Posted by MRfire
better check the numbers again with your ninth grade math skills.
You used my "ninth grade" math skills and said you got a steal @ $28,000.

Maybe you should have done your own math because I mistakenly projected those numbers base on a 3 year lease not a 4.
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Originally Posted by kcobean
I hear ya....You did group everyone modding a leased car into the "knucklehead" category though.
you're right .... I should have worded it differently ... I meant modding a leased car with intent to return to dealership.
Old 08-01-2006, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
A lease is basically used for two purposes;
1) Perfect for somebody that cannot afford to buy it
2) Used as a business vehicle.

THE END
05 Crossfire convertible 6 speed base

Executive Lease

Term 1 year
includes free maintence (oil changes,tires, etc.!!)
company also covers insurance

cost $215 a month!!!!!!

I am now gonna go hide before you guys come and beat me up.
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
A lease is basically used for two purposes;
1) Perfect for somebody that cannot afford to buy it
2) Used as a business vehicle.

THE END
The most sane statements posted on this thread.
Old 08-01-2006, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dutchboy350Z
You used my "ninth grade" math skills and said you got a steal @ $28,000.

Maybe you should have done your own math because I mistakenly projected those numbers base on a 3 year lease not a 4.
Hmm...seems like a deal to me considering I bought it when they were still selling over invoice. Now why don't you let me critique your deal there genius...no fabricating now..
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Originally Posted by vincentalunni
05 Crossfire convertible 6 speed base

Executive Lease

Term 1 year
includes free maintence (oil changes,tires, etc.!!)
company also covers insurance

cost $215 a month!!!!!!

I am now gonna go hide before you guys come and beat me up.
Good for you man. Nothing to hide about.
Old 08-01-2006, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MRfire
LOL, clueless...love it.


Regarding my Jeep (Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limtied)...yes, $3k off. Dealers don't WANT your lease back and will do what it takes to keep it in your garage. It's like starting all over again with the negotiation process. Ignorant people like yourself really crack me up. I'm hoping you're a still a teenager that hasn't experienced the "real" world yet. Everything is negotiable these days my man. Not to mention, there are a bazillion types of financing/lease programs out there. Contrary to what you hear, they are not all bad.

Don't sell yourself short....go to school and keep your eyes open

There's the primary reason they gave you $3K off. It's a Jeep Grand Cherrokee with a 5.9 Liter engine! Bad car (IMO) to have when gas is over $3 a gallon.
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Originally Posted by MRfire
Hmm...seems like a deal to me considering I bought it when they were still selling over invoice. Now why don't you let me critique your deal there genius...no fabricating now..
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Originally Posted by freefallin
There's the primary reason they gave you $3K off. It's a Jeep Grand Cherrokee with a 5.9 Liter engine! Bad car (IMO) to have when gas is over $3 a gallon.
I bought it out 3 years ago bro....still have it though
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Originally Posted by MRfire
Hmm...seems like a deal to me considering I bought it when they were still selling over invoice. Now why don't you let me critique your deal there genius...no fabricating now..
Bought my 2005 Touring roadster with 3,670 miles @ Carmax for $32,000 (the KBB value at over $35,000) Got a 7 year, 90,000 mile extended warrany for $1500.

After tax, tags, and title fees. Total $34,680 (still under KBB).

put $18,000 down. Financed 16,680 @ 9 percent. Made my first two car payments of $6,500 and $1,000.

Car will be paid off in less than a year. With me only paying under $500 interest.


Please critique away oh great one.


edit: If only you could have been civil to begin with ... I wasn't insulting you at all I was merely stating IMO that is wasn't sound financial planning. Why are you posting on this board if you can't take constructive criticism?

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Old 08-01-2006, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dutchboy350Z
Well considering I'm taking my own personal experience ... I bought my used Roadster for $34,650 and put $18,000 down. The other $16,650 I'm financing @ 9% and it will paid off within the next year. Total interest I will pay comes to under $500.
Your ability to repay the remaining balance is obviously the exception. You can't apply that standard to other people. It's easy to see though using your math on the leases, plus my math on a plain 5-year loan, it's not so crazy to use a lease as a way to have a Z with a low monthly payment, you just spread out the repayment over an extra year or two. Wise? Nope, but modding isn't wise either, lease or no lease...especially when it comes time to sell the car (I would know first hand!!! )


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