Be careful...just spin my Z
#41
OK DAMN! I am in the market for a base 06. Now if this car is so easy to wrek without TC, why did they not just put that standard on all models including the base!!!??? Even my sisters Scion xB has traction control.
#44
I am with you VN. Only turn it off when I want to play. The rest of the time that VDS/TCS is smarter than you when something unexpected happens.
I bet at least half the people on this forum have turned around their Z. I did the second week I had mine. I thought I got a feel for it. I had slammed the gas coming out of turns before and held it, but this time I decided to slam 2nd. Bad idea. They say if it gets sideways that you should keep yout foot down, but the average driver doesn't remeber that when they are sideways. Mine went around on the snap oversteer, over a small curve and into some bushes. Since then I have never repeated the same course of events. I've followed my buddy in his Mustang GT before, and he gets that thing pretty sideways. I just don't have the guts to try it again after what happened. Hes bound to **** up one of these days though, lol.
I think we've all had one of the traction control stories. Mine was when I first got mine. I was comming out of a turn in 1st, slammed 2nd and had my car turn sideways in 4 lane traffic.
#47
Originally Posted by Rick06Z
A bit off topic here. Reading these posts makes me rethink having the spare & tools removed for weight reduction.
I put my 06 sideways at the track a few weeks back giving too much throttle just coming out of a hairpin corner when I had my spare/tools out on that run only. The laps before that I had my spare/tools in and no problem w traction on that same corner. VDC was off on all runs. This was a good experience at the track as it was safe and a learning environment, but worries me for the steet.
I have just recently taken the spare/tools out for the street to reduce weight (also waiting for ordered light-weight battery for more weight reduction).
I am worried having the spare/tools out of the back throws off the handling dynamics of the car too much. Can more experienced Z drivers comment on this??
Cheers
I put my 06 sideways at the track a few weeks back giving too much throttle just coming out of a hairpin corner when I had my spare/tools out on that run only. The laps before that I had my spare/tools in and no problem w traction on that same corner. VDC was off on all runs. This was a good experience at the track as it was safe and a learning environment, but worries me for the steet.
I have just recently taken the spare/tools out for the street to reduce weight (also waiting for ordered light-weight battery for more weight reduction).
I am worried having the spare/tools out of the back throws off the handling dynamics of the car too much. Can more experienced Z drivers comment on this??
Cheers
I ditched my spare/jack a long time ago... ditched the rear interior a couple of weeks ago.... it definitely affects the dynamics... reduces traction over the rear wheels and also causes more understeer... heavier front wants to plow through turns while the rear doesn't want to grip... similar to what the turbo guys experience... smaller power:weight and a further lopsided f:r distro....
taking weight off the front will help balance it back out(which I have yet to do)...lightweight or relocate battery... lightweight pulleys... lightweight flywheel/clutch...etc... still early in the game for me...
#48
First off, I wouldn't ditch the spare tire when driving on the street. I might need it...
Second, in no circumstances should we take to a race track (HPDE, Drag, AutoX) with the spare tire and tools in the car. Get these out. Should you crash/roll, you might be cruelly reminded you're driving a hatchback with a clear path from the trunk to your head...
I ditched my spare/jack a long time ago... ditched the rear interior a couple of weeks ago.... it definitely affects the dynamics... reduces traction over the rear wheels and also causes more understeer... heavier front wants to plow through turns while the rear doesn't want to grip... similar to what the turbo guys experience... smaller power:weight and a further lopsided f:r distro....
taking weight off the front will help balance it back out(which I have yet to do)...lightweight or relocate battery... lightweight pulleys... lightweight flywheel/clutch...etc... still early in the game for me...
That's interresting. I try to do my runs at or below 1/2 a tank to furter reduce the weight of the Z. It think it turns best when running almost dry.
Second, in no circumstances should we take to a race track (HPDE, Drag, AutoX) with the spare tire and tools in the car. Get these out. Should you crash/roll, you might be cruelly reminded you're driving a hatchback with a clear path from the trunk to your head...
Originally Posted by roast
I ditched my spare/jack a long time ago... ditched the rear interior a couple of weeks ago.... it definitely affects the dynamics... reduces traction over the rear wheels and also causes more understeer... heavier front wants to plow through turns while the rear doesn't want to grip... similar to what the turbo guys experience... smaller power:weight and a further lopsided f:r distro....
taking weight off the front will help balance it back out(which I have yet to do)...lightweight or relocate battery... lightweight pulleys... lightweight flywheel/clutch...etc... still early in the game for me...
#49
Originally Posted by Kolia
First off, I wouldn't ditch the spare tire when driving on the street. I might need it...
Second, in no circumstances should we take to a race track (HPDE, Drag, AutoX) with the spare tire and tools in the car. Get these out. Should you crash/roll, you might be cruelly reminded you're driving a hatchback with a clear path from the trunk to your head...
(sorry, I just had to ask)
That's interresting. I try to do my runs at or below 1/2 a tank to furter reduce the weight of the Z. It think it turns best when running almost dry.
#51
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Originally Posted by VN_350z
Mine only has TCS not VCD. I think TCS prevents the wheel from spinning and VDC stops car from spinning.
I wonder if TCS could have prevented the spin???
I wonder if TCS could have prevented the spin???
Got my seal of approval.
I remember one of the first times I layed into the throttle on my C5 (it was an auto), I had no problem getting out of the hole. However, when it slammed into 2nd, the car came to a complete stop. I about sh*t myself and had NO idea what I had just done. Looked at the dash and rememberd I didn't take the TCS off.
#53
Originally Posted by roast
That's very true. If I didnt have some things to fall back on I wouldnt do it. I know enough people that I could catch a ride... my gf could pick me up or bring me my spare.... my brother in law drives a flatbed truck and he is always just a phone call away... plus I have roadside assistance... so I don't feel so bad. If all else fails... I have two legs that work, lol...
Originally Posted by roast
Do you wear a helmet on the street?
(sorry, I just had to ask)
(sorry, I just had to ask)
#55
Learn the limits where there aren't ditches or obstacles to hurt you or your car. Spinning the car is the result of driving past the limits, it's not going to help you go faster. Sliding a car on the street isn't the smartest thing to do. Driving fast is all about being smooth and not overloading the tires with G, braking or power.
TCS will save you if you are not paying attention, but if TCS activates you have already made a mistake.
AutoX or other track time will make you a better driver, way better than the average street driver. You really get a feel for what the car can and can't do.
TCS will save you if you are not paying attention, but if TCS activates you have already made a mistake.
AutoX or other track time will make you a better driver, way better than the average street driver. You really get a feel for what the car can and can't do.
Last edited by jungle; 09-10-2006 at 12:02 PM.
#56
Originally Posted by Rick06Z
I have just recently taken the spare/tools out for the street to reduce weight (also waiting for ordered light-weight battery for more weight reduction).
weight off the front, redistributed to the rear.
#58
Originally Posted by 35oZephyR
I wonder if anyone has straight re-located the car battery to the rear-hatch where the spare tools are suppose to be.
weight off the front, redistributed to the rear.
weight off the front, redistributed to the rear.
#59
Originally Posted by Kolia
Hehe. But then the other motorist will point at you, "the guy that can't change a spare tire on his own" !
I was expecting that one! You know I drive like a granny on the street!
#60
Originally Posted by roast
just switching the current battery out with a lightweight battery would be the best bet, but I'm not sure I want my car depending on a little cell phone battery(sarcasm).