Wow so the Z had a bad night yesterday
Originally Posted by pinoyZ
Couldn't the dealer look it up to the black box computer to see what happen. From what I hear, it records the rpms. And if it was stuck as you say. It should show up. Just a thought
you floored it. Nobody floors their car from a stop in a Z unless you're racing. The VDC kicks in so there's no point and if you don't have VDC your car will loose traction like a ****.
Do you have VDC? Maybe the control kicked in and you're not moving and you kept flooring it and when traction came back on, the Z bolted forward and you lost control??? Good possibility.
nebo
Do you have VDC? Maybe the control kicked in and you're not moving and you kept flooring it and when traction came back on, the Z bolted forward and you lost control??? Good possibility.
nebo
You sure you're foot didn't get stuck and not the pedal? That's happened to me before. Created a wedge and caused the gas pedal to stay depressed until I yanked it free.
SOunds like you paniced. First rule of any out of control throttle situation is to disengage the tranny, although not the first thing ones thinks of in a panic situation. Lesson learned. I learned it along time ago on a dirtbike(CR250). I had my throttle cable stick and I was going so frickin fast and out of control, thought I would surely die, but finally realized. "Pull in the clutch" saved me from launching into a creek at full throttle!
SOunds like you paniced. First rule of any out of control throttle situation is to disengage the tranny, although not the first thing ones thinks of in a panic situation. Lesson learned. I learned it along time ago on a dirtbike(CR250). I had my throttle cable stick and I was going so frickin fast and out of control, thought I would surely die, but finally realized. "Pull in the clutch" saved me from launching into a creek at full throttle!
Originally Posted by Acree
Dude, I really can't see how the gas pedal stuck.
-Acree
-Acree
Originally Posted by Nexx
+1, im thinking teenager is making up excuses so his parents dont take away his car for driving like a tard but i could be wrong. if i am wrong please excuse me.
No I'm posotive it got stuck. Trust me I didn't panic. Nothing scares me anymore. Plus I routinely floor it so I know how to react to it sliding.
I had tcs but not vdc.
No my foot didn't get stuck because I was busy pressing the brake.
Plus since it kept bouncing off the rev limiter its pretty obvious that it was still floored.
Either way if ya'll don't believe me thats cool. I really don't care
Also since its an auto I had to move the shifter over back into d so I could put it in N.
I am completely used to getting the back end to come out. You can look at my previous post on ppl losing control. I know what I'm doing. Something went wrong.
I am completely used to getting the back end to come out. You can look at my previous post on ppl losing control. I know what I'm doing. Something went wrong.
I still find it funny how ya'll love to play the age card and that if something like this happens it must be because I'm young and my parents bought my Z.
Sadly I bought my Z with my combat money from Iraq and my parents were offering to give me the beemer but I refused because I wanted to own it myself.
SO there lol
Sadly I bought my Z with my combat money from Iraq and my parents were offering to give me the beemer but I refused because I wanted to own it myself.
SO there lol
Originally Posted by kcobean
Stuck gas pedal huh? 
That's a first.
That's a first.
What I'm wondering is, did the throttle pedal get stuck or did the pedal return and the car kept accelerating?
Thats one thing I've always been afraid of with drive by wire systems. You (the driver) are no longer responsible for opening and closing the thottle body butterfly, now you rely on a sensor to determine how much throttle your giving it and we all know how electronics can be...
And if for some reason the TPS did act up that would fall as Nissan's responsibilty, but then again they can look at driving habits. Not sure of the Z's ecu but GM has been datalogging ecu's for years, it has helped to decide a few "street racing gone wrong" court cases where someone was killed. It logs speed, throttle %, ambiant temp, lots of factors so they can assess the situation.
Last edited by FORZWIN; Nov 2, 2006 at 04:25 PM.
Mine gets stuck all the time..
But then again, I am a paraplegic and when I pull my hand control back the pedal passes the tip of my foot and my foot continues to hold the gas down. It is pretty scary sometimes. It's something a normal person wouldn't encounter though. Although I have had floor mats move and hold the throttle down.
On my G35 Coupe 6mt the Pedal sensor messed up more than once and the ECM locks it in a fail safe position. I had to turn the car off and reset the ecm so that I could take it in.
But then again, I am a paraplegic and when I pull my hand control back the pedal passes the tip of my foot and my foot continues to hold the gas down. It is pretty scary sometimes. It's something a normal person wouldn't encounter though. Although I have had floor mats move and hold the throttle down.
On my G35 Coupe 6mt the Pedal sensor messed up more than once and the ECM locks it in a fail safe position. I had to turn the car off and reset the ecm so that I could take it in.
Originally Posted by ETTInnov03
Actually my cousin had a 96 Camaro Z28 and his gas pedal used to get stuck from time to time if he floored it. Though his was due to a very dry throttle cable. I also had my throttle cable pop out of the retaining loop on my 240 before when I took off hard at a light. Both of these cases involved throttle cables though, something the Z lacks.
That's a sad story Combat, but the main thing is you're okay, and your Zed is mendable or replaceable. I should imagine from what you've described the underneath of the zed is pretty sad.
Helped an idiot (I say idiot loosely because he drove onto it) who had grounded himself on a median barrier in a carpark in his GTR Supra. The funniest part, Supra being a rear wheel drive all the guys that were there who were trying to help him unground didn't realise was rear wheel drive, did heaps of damage to the underside, doh. So I come strolling along, get the guy off so he can limp to the nearest mechanic thankfully.
Hope your poor zed will okay.
Helped an idiot (I say idiot loosely because he drove onto it) who had grounded himself on a median barrier in a carpark in his GTR Supra. The funniest part, Supra being a rear wheel drive all the guys that were there who were trying to help him unground didn't realise was rear wheel drive, did heaps of damage to the underside, doh. So I come strolling along, get the guy off so he can limp to the nearest mechanic thankfully.
Hope your poor zed will okay.
No its not stuck now. I'm not sure if it actually stuck to the floor or if the throttle just stayed open. I didn't even think anything was wrong until after what I normally do when I go WOT and slide the back out didn't work. Normally I'll just let of the gas and then gently re-apply it and countersteer.
This time I tried that and it just kept going.
If I had of just run over the first median I might have gone for the I just freaked out but there is no way you're going to convince me that I after driving the Z for long enough to know how to get it lose and reign it in that I managed to keep my foot on the gas all the way up onto the median, then get the car turned another 180 in the opposite direction sideways and up onto the sidewalk.
This time I tried that and it just kept going.
If I had of just run over the first median I might have gone for the I just freaked out but there is no way you're going to convince me that I after driving the Z for long enough to know how to get it lose and reign it in that I managed to keep my foot on the gas all the way up onto the median, then get the car turned another 180 in the opposite direction sideways and up onto the sidewalk.
My feet is not gigantic, so this does not happen in the Z. Thank goodness the pedal positions are well well done.
In mom's Legend and my friend's Integra, there were a couple of times when I would hit the gas pedal while braking. Nearly gave me a heart attack!
In mom's Legend and my friend's Integra, there were a couple of times when I would hit the gas pedal while braking. Nearly gave me a heart attack!
Originally Posted by kcobean
That's exactly my point. I've been a very active member of this site since early early '04. I have never heard of an accident in a 350Z due to a "stuck pedal". I've heard of lots of TPS sensors failing, but they've always caused the car to run poorly, not WOTed the car off the road. I'm sure with the liabilities involved with a system like that, that odds of the sensor doing what's described are millions to one. I'm with the other skeptics...If this wasn't a case of floormatus-interruptus, it was a case of young-driverus-panicus.
Ahh I misunderstood, point taken.
It's one of two things
1) Mechanical malfunction with the accelerator causing the accident
2) The drivers belief that he is so good that any accident had to be caused by mechanical malfunction because there's no way he could lose control of his car. While in reality he screwed the pooch and can't bring himself to admit to it.
I was not there so I can only speculate, but if it is #1 then its a 1st on these boards... Although I do have to say if this happen to me and it was a mechanical malfunction, I wouldn't be talking about buying another Z, I would definitely be looking at another type of car as my trust in Nissan would be gone. But that's just me...
Either way, I'm glad you didn't get hurt.... And better luck with your next car if they end up totaling this one
1) Mechanical malfunction with the accelerator causing the accident
2) The drivers belief that he is so good that any accident had to be caused by mechanical malfunction because there's no way he could lose control of his car. While in reality he screwed the pooch and can't bring himself to admit to it.
I was not there so I can only speculate, but if it is #1 then its a 1st on these boards... Although I do have to say if this happen to me and it was a mechanical malfunction, I wouldn't be talking about buying another Z, I would definitely be looking at another type of car as my trust in Nissan would be gone. But that's just me...
Either way, I'm glad you didn't get hurt.... And better luck with your next car if they end up totaling this one




