Wow so the Z had a bad night yesterday
11-03-2006, 09:28 AM
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11-03-2006, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Combat350z
Well basically what happened was I was leaving campus after my english class around 7pm and when I took off from the light the gas pedal stuck to the floor and I lost control and ended up going sideways and running up over the left side median, regaining some control and going sideways again and up onto the sidewalk. By that time I realized that it was stuck or something else was wrong so I put it in neutral and finally got it stopped.
So I looked at it and the rear left tire is bent like really bad. So the suspension is fuked. Because I ran up on those medians apparantly it shoved up the whole engine because the strut bar had 4 of the nuts missing and it was barely still connected. So now I'm waiting on the insurance to call me back and see if they are going to handle this or if Nissan is going to have to.
I'm assuming they'll defer to nissan since that would be a mechanical error and well that type of thing shouldn't happen. So yea I'm w/o the Z for who knows how long.
Luckily my parents have a spare car so I'm borrowing the beemer.
So I looked at it and the rear left tire is bent like really bad. So the suspension is fuked. Because I ran up on those medians apparantly it shoved up the whole engine because the strut bar had 4 of the nuts missing and it was barely still connected. So now I'm waiting on the insurance to call me back and see if they are going to handle this or if Nissan is going to have to.
I'm assuming they'll defer to nissan since that would be a mechanical error and well that type of thing shouldn't happen. So yea I'm w/o the Z for who knows how long.
Luckily my parents have a spare car so I'm borrowing the beemer.
You DIE.
*haha i figure somebody had to say it!*
11-03-2006, 11:52 AM
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it happend to my 87 supra turbo. the cable wire was just too dry. i didn't have to floor it, it would get jammed and speed up. the fix was to grease every section of the cable, from pedal to the engine.
i am not so sure of why a 04 Z would act such a way since it's still so new. perhaps the accelerator system is defective
i am not so sure of why a 04 Z would act such a way since it's still so new. perhaps the accelerator system is defective
11-03-2006, 12:05 PM
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it happend to my 87 supra turbo. the cable wire was just too dry. i didn't have to floor it, it would get jammed and speed up. the fix was to grease every section of the cable, from pedal to the engine.
i am not so sure of why a 04 Z would act such a way since it's still so new. perhaps the accelerator system is defective
i am not so sure of why a 04 Z would act such a way since it's still so new. perhaps the accelerator system is defective
11-07-2006, 07:25 AM
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Well the good news is they think its repairable. The entire rear suspension is messed up, they think the oil/transmission pan?? might need to be replaced and they are trying to see whats wrong with the engine compartment since it got pushed up and caused the strut bar to come off. Luckily he said he doesn't think it will end up being totalled.
Although if they do I'm probably going to look at an 05 S2000.
Although if they do I'm probably going to look at an 05 S2000.
11-07-2006, 02:10 PM
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I stopped reading after the se4cond page, but I still wanted to put this out, since a few people may not have noticed. The Z has a safety feature which will not allow more than 25-30% throttle while the brakes are being applied, now dont get me wrong, in the snow its possible to loose the car with that much throttle in a heavy down poor or snow, but you said the road was bone dry. Also you said that the car was bouncing off the revlimiter. which is kind of wierd seeing as how you said your car was A/T so it would have shifted for itself. I dont know maybe your telling the truth, and I am sorry it happened to you, but im explaining to you why I find it a hard story to believe. If I am wrong I am sorry, and glad your okay.
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11-07-2006, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tak
As for the Z, that sucks, but I would say that is a one in a million sort of failure. The drive by wire system, realistically, is more safe I would say than a mechanical linkage. They have so many safeties built into that system... many systems use multiple sensors on both the pedal and the throttle itself, and if any 1 of those sensors fails, the PCM goes into a fail safe mode, and will either not open the throttle past a certain amount, or it will slam shut and not open at all. With a car with a mechanical linkage, all it takes is a dry or damaged cable, which is really easy to do.
In any case, this has happened to me before, not in a Z. Within a split second of realizing I had no control over the engine, the clutch was depressed and the engine was off.
11-07-2006, 04:40 PM
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Thats the problem its an AT. I was in manual mode so I couldn't immediately shift into N because you have to move it over.
I didn't ever think to turn it off because I didn't expect it not to behave like it always does when that happens. Take my foot off the gas and then slowly reapply the gas and keep going.
Either way she should be fixed by friday. Amazingly there wasn't any damage to the undercarriage.
I do know that I have had two incidents where my slip and tcs light would come on randomly and it would start to act wierd. Usually when for some reason I've had several problems with the MAF recently.
If it was solely driver error so be it I'll take responsibility for it but I still think that something else had to have helped this happen. I just don't see how I've been able to control a complete loss of control in the rain and not panic and then suddenly just lose it on drive pavement taking off from a light
I didn't ever think to turn it off because I didn't expect it not to behave like it always does when that happens. Take my foot off the gas and then slowly reapply the gas and keep going.
Either way she should be fixed by friday. Amazingly there wasn't any damage to the undercarriage.
I do know that I have had two incidents where my slip and tcs light would come on randomly and it would start to act wierd. Usually when for some reason I've had several problems with the MAF recently.
If it was solely driver error so be it I'll take responsibility for it but I still think that something else had to have helped this happen. I just don't see how I've been able to control a complete loss of control in the rain and not panic and then suddenly just lose it on drive pavement taking off from a light
11-07-2006, 06:03 PM
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Yea. Never had it happen before and hopefully won't happen again.
i'm actually considering getting an 05 S2K. I'm tired of having an auto but am not about to get a used MT Z so basically the only other choice would be an S2K. Plus I like them and they have supposedly the best gear box and far fewer problems than MT Z's.
not sure yet
i'm actually considering getting an 05 S2K. I'm tired of having an auto but am not about to get a used MT Z so basically the only other choice would be an S2K. Plus I like them and they have supposedly the best gear box and far fewer problems than MT Z's.
not sure yet
11-07-2006, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Combat350z
Yea. Never had it happen before and hopefully won't happen again.
i'm actually considering getting an 05 S2K. I'm tired of having an auto but am not about to get a used MT Z so basically the only other choice would be an S2K. Plus I like them and they have supposedly the best gear box and far fewer problems than MT Z's.
not sure yet
i'm actually considering getting an 05 S2K. I'm tired of having an auto but am not about to get a used MT Z so basically the only other choice would be an S2K. Plus I like them and they have supposedly the best gear box and far fewer problems than MT Z's.
not sure yet
and then say good-bye to torque
11-07-2006, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenn350Z
and then say good-bye to torque
11-07-2006, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenn350Z
Even though you're a Stars fan I'm glad you weren't in a serious accident!
11-08-2006, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SargentZ
You sure you're foot didn't get stuck and not the pedal? That's happened to me before. Created a wedge and caused the gas pedal to stay depressed until I yanked it free.
SOunds like you paniced. First rule of any out of control throttle situation is to disengage the tranny, although not the first thing ones thinks of in a panic situation. Lesson learned. I learned it along time ago on a dirtbike(CR250). I had my throttle cable stick and I was going so frickin fast and out of control, thought I would surely die, but finally realized. "Pull in the clutch" saved me from launching into a creek at full throttle!
SOunds like you paniced. First rule of any out of control throttle situation is to disengage the tranny, although not the first thing ones thinks of in a panic situation. Lesson learned. I learned it along time ago on a dirtbike(CR250). I had my throttle cable stick and I was going so frickin fast and out of control, thought I would surely die, but finally realized. "Pull in the clutch" saved me from launching into a creek at full throttle!
