Weight Myth
12-08-2006, 09:24 AM
#41
Originally Posted by ZlleH
Sure, if that makes the fact feel better for you, I really don't care. People can come up with any excuse they want. Theories about Nissan using a different weighing machine, weighing with gas one year and weighing without gas another year. Weighing it in different climates. Weighing the car with a driver one year, and no driver another year.
My Mid-A members DID weigh their cars at a Track day event @ MIR and one our member's Stock 2006 model weighed 3230 lbs.
12-08-2006, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dutchboy350Z
Do you have any proof other than 2nd hand "facts"?
My Mid-A members DID weigh their cars at a Track day event @ MIR and one our member's Stock 2006 model weighed 3230 lbs.
My Mid-A members DID weigh their cars at a Track day event @ MIR and one our member's Stock 2006 model weighed 3230 lbs.
I agree. I don't understand why some continue to ignore all the evidence presented by members here, in favor of anecdotes
It's not just one person doing the weighing, but I haven't seen anyone able to confirm this supposed increase.
12-08-2006, 09:56 AM
#44
Originally Posted by 350zQ45a
I agree. I don't understand why some continue to ignore all the evidence presented by members here, in favor of anecdotes
It's not just one person doing the weighing, but I haven't seen anyone able to confirm this supposed increase.
It's not just one person doing the weighing, but I haven't seen anyone able to confirm this supposed increase.
I actually thought this whole weight mix up was resolved months ago.
12-08-2006, 10:07 AM
#45
Originally Posted by 97supratt
We're all the same damnit!!!
The trick is to forget theoretical he said she said nissan said bs. Weigh your car, don't worry about the next person or what the magazine says, and go from there.... then there is nothing to debate or fight over.
My '04 base weighs 3300lbs (+/- 5lbs) with me in it (170lbs) and 1/4 tank of gas. I have splash guards, kick panels, aero kit, front floor mats, no spare/tools, and a mostly stripped rear interior.
People compile or list all these weights....and without all the details they are just meaningless numbers as far as I'm concerned. Then you have the people who lie/cheat/steal just to muck up the water and what's the point? Who cares anyway?
12-08-2006, 10:10 AM
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Here's a perfect example of misinformation. This reviewer has no clue what he's talking about.
First he claims that the 2006 Z weighs 3400 lbs. Then he states the 2006 Zs redline is 6250 rpm?
Last time I checked it was 7000 rpm. The jackass probably also thinks the red light flashing is permanently fixed @ 6,250 rpms.
http://www.automedia.com/2006/Nissan...t20060601nz/1/
First he claims that the 2006 Z weighs 3400 lbs. Then he states the 2006 Zs redline is 6250 rpm?
Last time I checked it was 7000 rpm. The jackass probably also thinks the red light flashing is permanently fixed @ 6,250 rpms.
Originally Posted by John Stein / autoMedia.com
Under-hood lives a smooth 3.5-liter DOHC all-aluminum V6 twisting out 300 hp at 6,400 rpm. Given the 350Z's 3,400-lb. curb weight, that's a weight-to-power ratio of 11.3:1—in the same league as the sporty Porsche Boxster S and Subaru WRX STI. Its 260 lb.-ft. of torque arrives at 4,800 rpm, but thanks to CVTCS, Nissan's continuously variable valve-timing system, the powerband is actually very flexible, pulling well down low as well as screaming to its 6,250-rpm redline, where a red light flashes a warning.
12-08-2006, 10:33 AM
#48
Originally Posted by roast
LOL.... makes 300hp at 6400RPM, but redline is at 6250.... how unfortunate... nice find... 
12-08-2006, 10:41 AM
#49
I never said what I posted are proofs, somebody asked if anyone happened to have data from Nissan 2005 weight so they can compare to 2006 Nissan weight.
I happened to have saved the 2005 track and touring data I collected from The Nissan website and posted a reply.
I then stated how and where I got the data and that I didn't care what outcome people will conclude from it. People can conclude that the 2006 can weigh LESS then the 2005 for all I care.
If you choose to doubt Nissan's own published data then good for you, I can accept that. Whatever floats your boat.
I happened to have saved the 2005 track and touring data I collected from The Nissan website and posted a reply.
I then stated how and where I got the data and that I didn't care what outcome people will conclude from it. People can conclude that the 2006 can weigh LESS then the 2005 for all I care.
If you choose to doubt Nissan's own published data then good for you, I can accept that. Whatever floats your boat.
Originally Posted by dutchboy350Z
Do you have any proof other than 2nd hand "facts"?
My Mid-A members DID weigh their cars at a Track day event @ MIR and one our member's Stock 2006 model weighed 3230 lbs.
My Mid-A members DID weigh their cars at a Track day event @ MIR and one our member's Stock 2006 model weighed 3230 lbs.
12-08-2006, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ZlleH
I never said what I posted are proofs, somebody asked if anyone happened to have data from Nissan 2005 weight so they can compare to 2006 Nissan weight.
I happened to have saved the 2005 track and touring data I collected from The Nissan website and posted a reply.
I then stated how and where I got the data and that I didn't care what outcome people will conclude from it. People can conclude that the 2006 can weigh LESS then the 2005 for all I care.
If you choose to doubt Nissan's own published data then good for you, I can accept that. Whatever floats your boat.
I happened to have saved the 2005 track and touring data I collected from The Nissan website and posted a reply.
I then stated how and where I got the data and that I didn't care what outcome people will conclude from it. People can conclude that the 2006 can weigh LESS then the 2005 for all I care.
If you choose to doubt Nissan's own published data then good for you, I can accept that. Whatever floats your boat.
Last edited by dutchboy350Z; 12-08-2006 at 01:31 PM.
12-08-2006, 01:50 PM
#51
Yes sir! Next time I go and research on what trim of car to buy, I will definitely go out and weigh those trims I'm interested in buying myself. How ridiculous of me to go directly to Nissan's website for the facts, um, sorry, for Nissan's lies. I also humbly apologize to the person that asked for the previous year's weight information from Nissan. Sorry if the lies offended.
Forgive me for replying to this type of thread, I see that this issue is very sensitive to you and I will refrain myself from responding anymore with outrageous information in this thread. Good luck with your movement. I take my leave of this thread.
Forgive me for replying to this type of thread, I see that this issue is very sensitive to you and I will refrain myself from responding anymore with outrageous information in this thread. Good luck with your movement. I take my leave of this thread.
Originally Posted by dutchboy350Z
Here's a suggestion try finding facts on your own (weigh your own car)instead of reading 2nd hand info--even if it's from the factory specs. Believe it or not Nissan any and other car manufacturer are not always accurate when it comes to listing their specifications.
12-09-2006, 07:40 AM
#52
Originally Posted by ZlleH
Yes sir! Next time I go and research on what trim of car to buy, I will definitely go out and weigh those trims I'm interested in buying myself. How ridiculous of me to go directly to Nissan's website for the facts, um, sorry, for Nissan's lies. I also humbly apologize to the person that asked for the previous year's weight information from Nissan. Sorry if the lies offended.
Forgive me for replying to this type of thread, I see that this issue is very sensitive to you and I will refrain myself from responding anymore with outrageous information in this thread. Good luck with your movement. I take my leave of this thread.
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12-09-2006, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ZlleH
Yes sir! Next time I go and research on what trim of car to buy, I will definitely go out and weigh those trims I'm interested in buying myself. How ridiculous of me to go directly to Nissan's website for the facts, um, sorry, for Nissan's lies. I also humbly apologize to the person that asked for the previous year's weight information from Nissan. Sorry if the lies offended.
Forgive me for replying to this type of thread, I see that this issue is very sensitive to you and I will refrain myself from responding anymore with outrageous information in this thread. Good luck with your movement. I take my leave of this thread.
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12-09-2006, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bailey bill
When people's minds are made up, don't try to confuse them with documentation and facts.
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Facts are verifiable by demonstration. It seems it's been demonstrated here that the published numbers are not factual.
12-09-2006, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bailey bill
I read it all...every single post...from the beginning, right down to here.
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So all the JDM turbo cars from the 90s era only had 280 hp in Japan right?
Do you not believe the dynos of the 335 showing much more then 300 hp ?
It's been demonstrated over and over again. Why is it not capable of happening here?
Not one person who has weighed their 06 has shown the gains on paper.
12-09-2006, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 350zQ45a
So all the JDM turbo cars from the 90s era only had 280 hp in Japan right?
Do you not believe the dynos of the 335 showing much more then 300 hp ?
It's been demonstrated over and over again. Why is it not capable of happening here?
Not one person who has weighed their 06 has shown the gains on paper.
Do you not believe the dynos of the 335 showing much more then 300 hp ?
It's been demonstrated over and over again. Why is it not capable of happening here?
Not one person who has weighed their 06 has shown the gains on paper.
I'd also add the LS1 and LS2s of the 90's were highly underrated as well. GM thought (and they were probably right) that if they actually listed the real hp numbers it would detract certain people from buying it because the insurance would be too high. I wish the Z had that problem.
Why do people think that if it's written on paper it must be written in stone?
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