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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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civics are way faster and look better but z is a better daily driver. if u wanna race get a civic. if u wanna daily driver basic car. get a z
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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I concur!
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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once that vtec kicks in yo, you be gone.. Don't let these fakers tell you the Z is fast.. It would get spanked by the civic in any event... Smokin the fronts are sexy...
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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haha... hate when that happens.

Nice avatar btw.. wish that move had more nudity.

Hell, I just wish she had more.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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hahaha i beat two of my friends 06/07 si's! idk but i love my Z...
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by deluzrider
civics are way faster and look better but z is a better daily driver. if u wanna race get a civic. if u wanna daily driver basic car. get a z

LMAO
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by yobri
Quicker off the line? You think VTEC kicks right in once you hit the gas?
no im saying theres more grip because the si has lsd, while the base may have minor wheel slippage.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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i just beat a evo9 rs with intake and rxhaust with my bone stock 07 from a 60-120 race owed him by a car. and to think a 06 si can give me a race lol to funny
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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CIVIC = WWD (wrong wheel drive)
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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i just beat a evo9 rs with intake and rxhaust with my bone stock 07 from a 60-120 race owed him by a car. and to think a 06 si can give me a race lol to funny
of course you'd beat an evo 9, you're lighter and you have more hp. also evos are known to have no top end. i said 'off the line quicker'. not 60-120 quicker
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by alan86
no im saying theres more grip because the si has lsd, while the base may have minor wheel slippage.
Okay this has got to stop. LSD is for corner exits, when the car is leaning to one side and the inside tire has less grip. In a straight line, where both driving wheels have equal weight and grip, a LSD is pretty much worthless.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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duh.... i've never come across a civic that i dont think is gay even if it runs 7's
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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I destroyed an brand new Si at the track in October. It wasn't even close.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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is this thread serious?
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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Honestly, I had the same dilema. I know si has some attractive features.
But at the end, I took my friend's advice.
Civic is just a civic no matter what.
I hope you make a wise decision.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Speed, power, handling, looks etc etc...all that stuff aside,

RWD > FWD

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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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Funny I saw this thread today. Chick at work just bought a burgandy civic SI 2006. 6-speed. Let me drive it at lunch.

I was more impressed with the tiburon.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jun
Also, you get 30HP more just by pushing on the gears up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, brake, gas.
HAHA.

I have a GSR and was afraid of trading it in because I love the handling and nimblness (sp) so I kept it for a beater. Sucks cause the Z is so fun and nice to be in, I drive the Z more than Im supposed to be.

Get the Z
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by alan86
Which is faster? The si has lsd, vtec, and 8k redline. The base has no lsd, heavier, but 87 more hp. I have a feeling the si will be quicker off the line, but no chance in a quarter mile.

which has better handling?
Vtec? Nissan has variable valve timing too...But it's called NVCS, Nissan Valve-Timing Control System. It operates off of the same principles. Also, don't let a redline number fool you. On top of my Z, I also own a 2006 RX8 (GT) that has a 9k redline. I redline it atleast twice a day and with some flash upgrades, you can rev way beyond 9K. The engine could take more, just the tranny won't be able to hang. Anyhoo, my point is my RX8 has 159 ft/lbs. of torque and it is very noticible when driving back to back with my Z. Although I can go to 9K with the 8, in first gear that 9k does not equal the Z's 1st gear at 4.5K in acceeration. You gotta, also, keep in mind that the SI, while a good motor, is only a 4 banger and there IS NO replacement for displacement. Some will argue, "yeah with turbo, etc." but if you do the same mods to a Z and a SI...well you know.

Furthermore, having a LSD is not really a plus in most "everyday" cases. They're mainly useful when one wheel loses contact with the pavement or if you are stuck in the mud. Furthermore, the Z uses a "Viscous" LSD which are less efficient than "mechanical" LSDs in that "Viscous" LSDs suffer from a higher percentage of paracitic power loses. "Viscous" LSDs are also prone to overheating, causing the silicone to sieze. LSDs are basically advantageous in off-road or drifting applications. And in either case, "mechanical" LSDs are far superior to Nissan's "Viscous" LSD. So, if LSDs are your "thing" then go with an aftermarket mechanical LSD and problem solved.

Finally, on one hand, the 2006-2007 SI has been clocked by modernracer.com at 15.6 sec in the quarter, and 7.2 0-60mph. The 2005 350Z, on the other hand, has been clocked at 5.8 0-60mph and 14.3 in the quarter. So, your last assertion is also false. 0-60 or the quarter, with an experienced driver on an ideal and closed road, the Z spanks serious ***.

This quesiton of "SI vs. Z" is one that only you can answer. Remember that fastest times reported by magazines and manufacturers may not always be duplicated by your average driver on average road conditions. Also, WHY are you buying a car? What are YOU looking for in a car?

While the Z is a true sports car, it has no rear seats, sun/moon roof, and is thirsty on petrol. The Honda, while underpowered, in comparison with the Z, can get over 30MPG and handles well for a "wrong wheel drive" car. The 2007 SI also comes well equiped for under $22k while a 2005 base Z will cost a bit over $22K. New or used? What's your preference? There are plenty of pluses and minuses on both cars that you can write books about. In making, relatively, large investments such as purchasing a car you have to do your homework and first-and-foremost figure out what you are looking for in a car and find one that matches it. Do not, by any means, pick a car and try to force it to match your expectations and lifestyle--you'll just end up unhappy and hating your car.

I hope this helps.

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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by alan86
no im saying theres more grip because the si has lsd, while the base may have minor wheel slippage.
If you can launch worth a damn, you won't have to worry about wheel "slippage." Heck, even if you can't launch well, you'd still crush the Civic off the line due to sheer torque.

I'd worry more about cornering when considering an LSD really...

edit: don't get me wrong, I'd love to rock a new Civic Si as a DD, but if you're comparing the two, there simply is none... go for the economy car with a bit of pep, or go for the sports car...
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