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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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Would you not buy the item if it wasn't in stock?




I fully agree, but there are always circumstances that don't allow for this.



Would you not buy then if you had to be charged ahead?



I agree with those too.
I would by an item that must be backordered, but tell me in the advertisement.

Premier online stores such as Lands End charge when shipped. Excellent business model.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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People are always bothered when the shop that everyone loves is not close by. The only problem is that these same people nickel and dime everyone on parts which leads to fewer and fewer shops.

Yea, see to me where I take my car has nothing to do with poplularity. My local shop takes good care of me, treats me right, does good work and is a short ride away. Which is what matters, not popularity. Now if they were a bad shop that would be another thing, but there not so my loyalty is to that shop.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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I would by an item that must be backordered, but tell me in the advertisement.

Premier online stores such as Lands End charge when shipped. Excellent business model.
Lands End is a huge corporation though. You can't really compare to a local shop who isn't on the same cash flow. On the whole, the wholesale parts business does not operate on Net terms like the rest of the business world. Most places want cash up front. If a shop is reputable, is it too much to ask to pay when you order?
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Yea, see to me where I take my car has nothing to do with poplularity. My local shop takes good care of me, treats me right, does good work and is a short ride away. Which is what matters, not popularity. Now if they were a bad shop that would be another thing, but there not so my loyalty is to that shop.
Good to hear that someone is loyal to a place.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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Unfortunately local tuner shops with extensive Z/G experience are not that common (at least where I live), so I will be relying on regional shops (Forged for ex).
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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I price all. then go with the lowest price that is known for quality and service. service and treating a customer like he is a customer is worth quite a bit in my opinion.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:14 AM
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Which is the exact reason to support your local shops. I would hate to be in an area with absolutely no shops to work on the car if it was something that I could not handle. I enjoy having the shop that does my work being 15 minutes away.
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I'm luck enough to live 15 minutes from a good shop too. Some say i'm being a punk not doing my own installs but whatever. I can afford to be a lazy punk, that and i know my car is in good hands.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:45 AM
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When you decide to purchase your aftermarket parts, is price everything? Is there any loyalty to a shop? How much (in dollars) would make the difference in you buying a part from one place over another? It seems to me that these days, people would sacrifice loyalty in order to save a couple of bucks.

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I pick my Vendors based on their knowledge, I have no insecurities, I want them smarter than me. I have most the answers but not all the answers.

On the other hand, If I know the product and know it well, I will go price if there is a SUBSTANTIAL difference. I will give them a part # and a check and expect the product to be delivered immediatly with no BS. I wont be looking to make friends, I want service and I want it now.

But I NEVER burn bridges. I never walk in to a Auto Zone, I go Napa for example and my Napa has wicked Knowledge. Plus, if I burn up an Ignition Module cuz I fuced up, they replace it and make the excuses to their supplier.

Competent knowledge at your finger tips (fone) on ANY subject, is worth a few bucks any day.

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by THE TECH
People are always bothered when the shop that everyone loves is not close by. The only problem is that these same people nickel and dime everyone on parts which leads to fewer and fewer shops.
+1.

I've ordered most of my performace mods thru Forged Perf in ATL and they're doing my installs as well. They aren't the cheapest on the planet, but Sharif & Team definitely know their stuff... Especially when it comes to the finer points of Z's & G's, so to me it's worth it to support them. Their knowledge & workmanship = priceless. You get what you pay for (within reason).

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bofa
Unfortunately local tuner shops with extensive Z/G experience are not that common (at least where I live), so I will be relying on regional shops (Forged for ex).
Right, that's why supporting local places will help.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
+1.

I've ordered most of my performace mods thru Forged Perf in ATL and they're doing my installs as well. They aren't the cheapest on the planet, but they definitely know their stuff... Especially when it comes to the finer points of Z's & G's, so to me it's worth it to support them. Their knowledge & workmanship = priceless. You get what you pay for (within reason).
I congratulate you on that.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by davidv
I have made the mistake of shopping by price. I ordered a cat-back exhaust system, and two months later, had nothing.

a. I want the item in stock, and shipped within a reasonable time. If the item is not in stock, tell me in the advertisement.

b. Stand behind your product. I bought it from you, don't tell me to call or send it someplace else. You sold it - you take care of it.

c. Charge when shipped and not before.

d. No surprise e-mails like “Oh BTW the advertised price is old. Our new price is $$$.”

e. No “Prices too low to mention” or “Call for best price” bologna. If your price is reasonable, then state the price.
I agree with most of your points except e. A lot of times those "call for best price" type things are so that the vendor remains in good standing with the company who's product they are selling. This is called minimum advertised price, I know that's why a lot of the vendors on here with things such as volks require a PM. If they advertise below a certain amount they can get in trouble, and possibly lose that product.

For me it comes down to a mix of pricing, customer service, knowledge and reputation. I would be willing to pay more for a product if I were dealing with people who made customer service a priority, knew the product they were selling, and don't sell you something just to line their wallet. I've known a few people who have gone to a shop, told them their plans for their car and then the shop either through ignorance, or just wanting to pad their wallets sold them something they didn't need or wouldn't play well with their setup.

With that being said, I would prefer a local shop, because of the ease of the transaction and the ability to pop in for questions. But if I can get better service, knowledge and customer service from another shop that isn't local then they will win my business and I'd be willing to pay more for a product, and deal with any potential problems that may arrise from a non-local shop.

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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What is a "no name shop"? Just one that you haven't personally dealt with or one with a bad rep.?
I was thinking something like a random ebay vendor. Just any shop that hasn't really built up reputation.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:20 AM
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The problem wiht local z shops is there are none! lol. In houston all we have his SGP (whose booked for like 8 years) and Kyle(whos pretty far from me). But to answer your question i'd much rather buy from those places than some random ebay store.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:25 AM
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The problem wiht local z shops is there are none! lol. In houston all we have his SGP (whose booked for like 8 years) and Kyle(whos pretty far from me). But to answer your question i'd much rather buy from those places than some random ebay store.
It's good that people want to buy from locals if possible.

The thing that people have to realize is that in order to stay in business, the local shops can't always ***** out parts like internet only places do. People have to be willing to pay more if they want to have a local place in their neighborhood.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by THE TECH
When you decide to purchase your aftermarket parts, is price everything? Is there any loyalty to a shop? How much (in dollars) would make the difference in you buying a part from one place over another? It seems to me that these days, people would sacrifice loyalty in order to save a couple of bucks.

Thoughts, comments??
If I have a relationship with a shop, a couple dollars difference will not make a difference. I go to CarV2 for everything I can because they have treated me well even though I don't spend $$$ there and their shop is PRISTINE. but if we are talking a hundred + difference, I will always ask a shop if they can get their price closer, but if they can't....

Same with dealerships, I try to give love to only one at a time (I am very monogamous) to the parts and service dept cause they get to know your car.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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If I have a relationship with a shop, a couple dollars difference will not make a difference. I go to CarV2 for everything I can because they have treated me well even though I don't spend $$$ there and their shop is PRISTINE. but if we are talking a hundred + difference, I will always ask a shop if they can get their price closer, but if they can't....

Same with dealerships, I try to give love to only one at a time (I am very monogamous) to the parts and service dept cause they get to know your car.
I applaud you.
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Originally Posted by THE TECH
It's good that people want to buy from locals if possible.

The thing that people have to realize is that in order to stay in business, the local shops can't always ***** out parts like internet only places do. People have to be willing to pay more if they want to have a local place in their neighborhood.
what happens when the local shops are dicks or inexperienced idiots? I will not support a local shop just because they are local. When I call, or see them at meets and have questions I don't like to be brushed off (not that anyone has) all the times I've seen Julian (MRC) or James (CarV2) at meets they are super friendly and willing to catch you up on the developments in the shop scene.

I tend to buy most of my stuff used, cause alot of the time I end up not being happy with it so I don't feel as bad if I didn't pay too much for something.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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I applaud you.
is it really that uncommon? all the guys in my local car club tend to be loyal.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
what happens when the local shops are dicks or inexperienced idiots? I will not support a local shop just because they are local. When I call, or see them at meets and have questions I don't like to be brushed off (not that anyone has) all the times I've seen Julian (MRC) or James (CarV2) at meets they are super friendly and willing to catch you up on the developments in the shop scene.
I understand that no one is going to buy from any place that is not going to take care of the customer. Now inexperience is somethng else. Not every shop that opens up will have 20 years of experience. Every big shop was small once. Every tech/mechanic that might be considered great now, was a noob once. There has to be some sort customer support as well.
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