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07-27-2002, 07:07 PM
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Car and Driver put the RSX type S at 6.3 seconds in the 0-60 in the May 2002 comparison of value-priced sporty cars (including the Tiburon GT V6, the Celica GT-S, the Eclipse GTS, and the New Beetle Turbo S).
It's not reasonable to compare the RSX-S to the Z. The Acura is a sporty car, while the Nissan is a sports car. The Acura will run you $22,000 to $23,000 fully equipped, while the 350Z will run you $27,000 at the minimum. One has a nice four under the hood that will get you close to 30 mpg on average. The other has a great six that isn't meant for efficiency (although it's not bad in that respect).
The point is this: they're both nice vehicles. But, they don't occupy the same market segment. There are very few people who are shopping for cars and comparing these two. (Unless you desperately want the Z but just can't afford or justify to your wife spending $30k on a car. Therefore, you go for a quick and reasonably attractive and less expensive alternative.)
It's not reasonable to compare the RSX-S to the Z. The Acura is a sporty car, while the Nissan is a sports car. The Acura will run you $22,000 to $23,000 fully equipped, while the 350Z will run you $27,000 at the minimum. One has a nice four under the hood that will get you close to 30 mpg on average. The other has a great six that isn't meant for efficiency (although it's not bad in that respect).
The point is this: they're both nice vehicles. But, they don't occupy the same market segment. There are very few people who are shopping for cars and comparing these two. (Unless you desperately want the Z but just can't afford or justify to your wife spending $30k on a car. Therefore, you go for a quick and reasonably attractive and less expensive alternative.)
07-27-2002, 07:12 PM
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You guys overlooked that 67.8 mph slalom speed! That is incredible! These are the cars that MotorTrend have tested that can beat that:
AUdi TT roadster 69.3
BMW M3 Coupe 69
Corvette Z06 70.3
Viper ACR 70.8
360 Modena 69
Mit Lancer Evo VII 70.9
Porsche 911 Carrera 68.4
Porsche 911 GT2 68.3
Porsche 911 Turbo 68.6
Saleen mustang 71
SHelby Cobra 71.8
that's it! This is some pretty good company!
AUdi TT roadster 69.3
BMW M3 Coupe 69
Corvette Z06 70.3
Viper ACR 70.8
360 Modena 69
Mit Lancer Evo VII 70.9
Porsche 911 Carrera 68.4
Porsche 911 GT2 68.3
Porsche 911 Turbo 68.6
Saleen mustang 71
SHelby Cobra 71.8
that's it! This is some pretty good company!
07-27-2002, 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by throbbing_Zon
I've never had a 13 second car!! WOOT!!!!
I've never had a 13 second car!! WOOT!!!!
07-27-2002, 08:00 PM
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The performance on the car rocks im so happy with it. The 0-60 im going with the 5.2 ive seen haha cause its faster, and 1/4 mile 13.9 thats great and maybe the most impressive is the slalom at 67.8. This car is simply amazing.
07-27-2002, 08:24 PM
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paganbeast, they werent comparing the RSX to the Z, rather the RSX's road test results were being used to demonstrate how some cars have wildly varying test results. That was probably a result of the RSX's peaky engine, while the Z's consistant results were caused byt the Z's smothe motor.
07-27-2002, 09:49 PM
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paganbeast, while i agree with you that the RSX and Z are very different cars, you should realize that many ppl who can afford an RSX are attracted to the base model Z. While the base Z is a stripped down, it is still a Z car that is a way more potent performer then the Acura.
Go check out the RSX forums (like clubrsx.com) and see for yourself how many people are planning on trading in their RSX and getting a Z car (either Base or Enthusiast or Performance)
This community will inevitably be faced with many RSX / Celica / Eclipse converts because the Z is just within their financial reach with its competitive pricing.
THe only thing i feel will detract potential buyers is the fact it is a 2-seater (with little cargo room), they want more plush interiors, or if insurance prices climb in the next few months (which it will when young inexperienced drivers start smashing these up).
Go check out the RSX forums (like clubrsx.com) and see for yourself how many people are planning on trading in their RSX and getting a Z car (either Base or Enthusiast or Performance)
This community will inevitably be faced with many RSX / Celica / Eclipse converts because the Z is just within their financial reach with its competitive pricing.
THe only thing i feel will detract potential buyers is the fact it is a 2-seater (with little cargo room), they want more plush interiors, or if insurance prices climb in the next few months (which it will when young inexperienced drivers start smashing these up).
07-27-2002, 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by ZeeYas
You guys overlooked that 67.8 mph slalom speed! That is incredible! These are the cars that MotorTrend have tested that can beat that:
AUdi TT roadster 69.3
You guys overlooked that 67.8 mph slalom speed! That is incredible! These are the cars that MotorTrend have tested that can beat that:
AUdi TT roadster 69.3
Regardless, awesome company to be in, considering the competitors are 1.5-3 times the Z's price.
07-27-2002, 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by nizl
That's gotta be the AWD one, I think. I can't see how a FWD car could beat an M3 and 911.
Regardless, awesome company to be in, considering the competitors are 1.5-3 times the Z's price.
That's gotta be the AWD one, I think. I can't see how a FWD car could beat an M3 and 911.
Regardless, awesome company to be in, considering the competitors are 1.5-3 times the Z's price.
IMHO the TT is a bucket.
07-27-2002, 11:33 PM
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That's gotta be the AWD one, I think. I can't see how a FWD car could beat an M3 and 911.
Actually the slalom speed for the FWD Integra type R is up there with any car, period. The problem with FWD cars though is that the front wheels do the driving and turning (on RWD the back does the driving and front does the turning) hence they wear out faster on the track.
What I wanna know is how can you get MotorTrend on the news stand before I get it deliveried. So much for subscribing : (
Actually the slalom speed for the FWD Integra type R is up there with any car, period. The problem with FWD cars though is that the front wheels do the driving and turning (on RWD the back does the driving and front does the turning) hence they wear out faster on the track.
What I wanna know is how can you get MotorTrend on the news stand before I get it deliveried. So much for subscribing : (
07-28-2002, 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by robbyn
I agree. After the C&D article, I had posted that all I wanted was for one of the mags to run a 13.9999 qtr. I am SOOOO pumped.
I agree. After the C&D article, I had posted that all I wanted was for one of the mags to run a 13.9999 qtr. I am SOOOO pumped.
07-28-2002, 08:55 AM
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It sounds like, with the torque curve this car will be very forgiving , great for beginners just learning manuals. Not that it would be fair for someone to start driving in this beast.
But my real question is ... when does this issue hit the stands?
It sounds like, with the torque curve this car will be very forgiving , great for beginners just learning manuals. Not that it would be fair for someone to start driving in this beast.
But my real question is ... when does this issue hit the stands?
07-28-2002, 05:52 PM
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I cant wait for this car. Right now I have a ser spec v just isn't fast enough. Ive been driving stick as soon as i could drive so im ready for that. One of main reasons want this car is to keep up wiht my dad a tiny bit better, he has a viper haha. Gonna be fun to race them.
07-28-2002, 09:42 PM
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all I care is 1/4miles with 13.95, which is good enough for me from stock engine.
Slap on a K&N filter, open up the exhaust, (remove spare from back), then you are looking at a 13.5-13.8 car!
Whoo Hoo!!
Slap on a K&N filter, open up the exhaust, (remove spare from back), then you are looking at a 13.5-13.8 car!
Whoo Hoo!!