350Z Crashes and Results
#61
Originally Posted by mcurry5
People mod there cars for many reasons, most of which are to 1 up the next guy. Not all people mod there cars so they can go out on the freeway and look for a race. A lot mod because they just want to have more HP than the next guy. Bragging rights. The analogy of going 5-10 mph over the speed limit and someone racing another car on public roads is rediculous !!! Dont get pissed if you play with fire and eventually get burned!!!!
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Originally Posted by Gooey
Honestly, no matter who it is, weather they are street racing, drinking and driving, hit by a drunk, or just lost control in inclimatic weather due to poor judgement(run on sentence?), I believe we should not critize them. They may be 16years old or 36years old but the fact is when someone passes away a life is lost and it hurts. We have no right to critic them. It is called an "accident" because it can happen anytime to anyone. Even YOU. Just be thankful you're alive and go on with life.
My prayers do go out for both lives. I just hope this does not happen to anyone else in this community. We can only learn from the mistakes of others.
My prayers do go out for both lives. I just hope this does not happen to anyone else in this community. We can only learn from the mistakes of others.
Agreed we didnt buy sports cars to drive them like buicks.
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Originally Posted by Z-T
Right, there's no difference between going 5mph over and street racing. Great point...not.
If I lose control of my car it'll be beacause someone else caused me to. Sorry, but I simply don't drive like that - you might, but I don't.
If I lose control of my car it'll be beacause someone else caused me to. Sorry, but I simply don't drive like that - you might, but I don't.
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Originally Posted by Jabdo233
How is it ridiculous. Both scenarios are instances of law-breaking and they are both unsafe.
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streetracing FTL! i dont care who it is. i was unaware that this accident involved it. good thing he didnt take anyone else out.
i think the bashing about the other accicdent with pickle(or whomever) was compounded by the fact that he was driving with his gf in the car
if you're going to streetrace, do it where there's no other cars around and you and the other driver are the only one's that can die.
i think the bashing about the other accicdent with pickle(or whomever) was compounded by the fact that he was driving with his gf in the car
if you're going to streetrace, do it where there's no other cars around and you and the other driver are the only one's that can die.
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John 8:7
I think a lot of people are quick to judge because it makes them feel better about themselves...
The guy made a bad decision and paid the ultimate price...
I think a lot of people are quick to judge because it makes them feel better about themselves...
The guy made a bad decision and paid the ultimate price...
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Originally Posted by spf4000
^^ Or how about just taking it to the track?
well of course, ive got no problem with that. And it sounds like this guy did track his car. But apparently couldn't control himself enough on the street.
And snippets from articles citing witnesses who don't know cars very well, as saying "it seemed like they were racing" is always not beleivable. But its also pretty hard to flip your car, if youve got track experience and you're driving like you should be driving on the street.
it's sad for his family and kids, but if you throw gasoline on a small fire(ie the everyday risk of driving on a public road)....you might just get burnt.
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Originally Posted by Jabdo233
How is it ridiculous. Both scenarios are instances of law-breaking and they are both unsafe.
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I have to agree, comparing street racing to speeding as far as how unsafe they are is kind of rediculous. If he was street racing, then I think he acted without thinking of all the consequences and of his family.
Personally, I don't street race. Thats not to say if i'm in one lane and my friend is in the other i might not floor it for the first few seconds, but otherwise I don't. Had numerous people want to race my on my bike and I have always declined, not worth the risk.
I think in the end, we should all just try to learn from the mistakes of others on this forum and let the deceased rest in peace. There is no need to tarnish the reputation of someone who has passed away.
Personally, I don't street race. Thats not to say if i'm in one lane and my friend is in the other i might not floor it for the first few seconds, but otherwise I don't. Had numerous people want to race my on my bike and I have always declined, not worth the risk.
I think in the end, we should all just try to learn from the mistakes of others on this forum and let the deceased rest in peace. There is no need to tarnish the reputation of someone who has passed away.
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i still cant believe in the year 2007 people cant figure out how to where a seat belt. no one should be suprised when you split your skull open and leak out your brains on the pavement when u get ejected from a crash they you'd probably would have walked away from
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Originally Posted by thefranchise
thank god he only took himself out and not some innocent family.
I don't get what everyone's problem is on this thread.
#75
Originally Posted by Jabdo233
What? So his life is not as important as some family's now?
I don't get what everyone's problem is on this thread.
I don't get what everyone's problem is on this thread.
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Thats not to say if i'm in one lane and my friend is in the other i might not floor it for the first few seconds, but otherwise I don't.
I won't say I have never streetraced, because I have, and a majority of the posters on this site have as well. But I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt, and whoever is in the car with me will as well, or they can get out. I am also not going to be racing with heavy traffic or bad weather, etc. If it isn't wide open road and sunny, it ain't happening.
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Originally Posted by drivenCSZ
And snippets from articles citing witnesses who don't know cars very well, as saying "it seemed like they were racing" is always not beleivable. But its also pretty hard to flip your car, if youve got track experience and you're driving like you should be driving on the street.
Either way, the safest place for 8/10ths+ driving (or whatever you want to call racing/spirited driving) is on the track, and I hope these two guys' losses will serve as a reminder for the rest of us.
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Well, I personally take my life into my own hands many times in my life by enjoying some riskier activities at times, icluding skydiving, rock climbing, spleuncking, tracking my car, back country downhill skiing, motorcycle racing, etc. I personally had a very good chance of death pretty much ever day of my life due to a heart defect so I enjoyed my life and lived each day as if it could be my last. Things have changed in my life and I don't do most of these things anymore.
The deal is my family is well aware of what I do, or did. They also know that if I died while doing it that it was likely going to be my fault, and even if it wasn't (e.g. a random rock falls off the face of a cliff while I am climbing and smacks me in the head) I was playing with fire to begin with. They would not feel sorry for me in that regard or ask others to feel sorry for me. I do hope that they would feel sorry for my family though as they would still have to deal with the loss.
Part of the draw and excitement of doing these things is that there is some risk involved. I don't get how you guys can just say that we have to feel sorry for him because the took a risk one too many times and got burned. Feel sorry for his family, not him. Feel glad that he didn't take anyone else with him when he went. It was his choice to do what he did, no one forced him. Also if you knew him, remember him for his joy that he brought others, but don't except people to condone what he did or feel sorry for him.
ps. If he was hit by a drunk driver, or swerved to miss something in the road and flipped, or some other RANDOM accident, then yes, I would also feel sorry for him, but that was not the case.
The deal is my family is well aware of what I do, or did. They also know that if I died while doing it that it was likely going to be my fault, and even if it wasn't (e.g. a random rock falls off the face of a cliff while I am climbing and smacks me in the head) I was playing with fire to begin with. They would not feel sorry for me in that regard or ask others to feel sorry for me. I do hope that they would feel sorry for my family though as they would still have to deal with the loss.
Part of the draw and excitement of doing these things is that there is some risk involved. I don't get how you guys can just say that we have to feel sorry for him because the took a risk one too many times and got burned. Feel sorry for his family, not him. Feel glad that he didn't take anyone else with him when he went. It was his choice to do what he did, no one forced him. Also if you knew him, remember him for his joy that he brought others, but don't except people to condone what he did or feel sorry for him.
ps. If he was hit by a drunk driver, or swerved to miss something in the road and flipped, or some other RANDOM accident, then yes, I would also feel sorry for him, but that was not the case.
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Completely different accidents. One was a street race in a neighborhood and lost it and hit a tree splitting the car in half.
The one with Kevin was by himself, no racing, looks like he just lost it for a unknown reason and got ejected from the car (probably not wearing his seatbelt).
The 1st one was a complete idiot kid.
The one with Kevin was by himself, no racing, looks like he just lost it for a unknown reason and got ejected from the car (probably not wearing his seatbelt).
The 1st one was a complete idiot kid.
Lets compare apples to apples, both street racing, one 16 years old the other much older, seems like Kevin should have had more experience, more intelligence, more common sense. The houston article did not state if the 16 year old and girlfriend were wearing seat belts, my guess would be yes.... apples to apples why why Kevin not wearing his seat belt, I am sure it is a law in Florida, I know it is a law in my state
I did not know Kevin and should not have anything either bad or good to say but...everthing in life has a purpose.....If this horrible tradgey has just wised up a single person up to wearing a seatbelt while driving or riding in a car....this was the purpose...betting Kevins poor parents and family wear seat belts
RIP KEVIN
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Originally Posted by Jabdo233
What? So his life is not as important as some family's now?
I don't get what everyone's problem is on this thread.
I don't get what everyone's problem is on this thread.
Think of it this way. Would you rather have one person die in a car accident, or that same person + a whole family die in a car accident?
I think you'd choose the former. THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE.