real sportscars have a hardtop

 

The bottome line is "There is no Replacement for Displacement." Z wins by Torque vote. Not to mention it feels like an amazing sports car.

 

Are you implying that a Z handles better than an S2k?
What the other guy was trying to say was that while you have a point that the S is low on hp/tq, the Z doesn't exactly make supercar-power either.

 

If there's no replacement for displacement then you should buy a camaro SS or a corvette...I fell as though I have drifted back onto my old IROC forum....

 

Ahm - the coin will tell you.

 

So do you want to start a "should I buy a Camaro/ Vette or a Z thread"? Comparing the Torque and Feel of the Z vs. an S2K, Z takes the cake. Besides Z looks sexier.

 

i didnt say that, i said the S2k has great handling but no power. he said the Z doesnt have handling and i explained to him that i can take a 45 mph turn at 70 without feeling body roll... when did i say it made "supercar" power??
learn to read buddy. i simply said the Z out performs the S2k. one of my friends has an S2k and he even agrees with me.

oh and before you try and make a comment of how the S2k out- performs a Z because of its weight. the S2k weighs over 2800 lbs because of the rediculouse convert. top. ( Z weighs 3100) it looks like honda's version of the miata.
Jake

 

hey i have my z for 2-3 months. and it was a z or an s2000 but finally i have choosen for the z because i find the s2000 mor a kind of toy than the z(no bad comment about the s2000 cause i love v-tec car!!!!)

 

I leased an s2000 back in 1999 when it first came out, car handled great, but the lack of low end torque got tired quickly. The push button start was a great novelty to show of to your friends but that too got tired quickly. You really have to drive it like you stole it to enjoy this car because of the lack of low end torque, and handling will not make up for it. If I had a choice I would get the Z, great low end torque, handling,looks & stronger aftermarket support. Also note that the s2000 will be discontinued after the 2008 year.

 

I hate to kick a dead horse... but I'm going to kick away anyway...

I just switched from an S2000 to an 07 Touring Z (for a myriad of reasons) and I couldn't be happier with the trade. Absolutely, the S feels lighter, and turns in quicker, but I honestly feel once in the turn, it always felt a little squirrely- which is exciting on a road course, but downright sobering on an "enthusiastic" ride in the country. The Z feels so planted when you load up the front before turning in, and it remains so- I can put down power alot earlier with the Z. The sound of VTEC is admittedly intoxicating at high revs, but eventually aggravating mid range, as opposed to the lovely masculine sound of the VQ at all revs.

I think if I had the option to keep the S for a track/ weekend car, I'd rather have it than even a Boxter because of its singularly raw feel, but if you drive every day, I really think (in MY opinion, having had both) that the Z is a more enjoyable choice, that you will get more out of on roads short of a hairpin.

And speaking of the track, I have some Nisno suspension pieces coming in this week to narrow the gap out there anyway...

Don't know if you've already made your mind up or not, but I'm crossing over from the Honda picket line to advise you to cast your vote for the Z...

Zelig

 

well i have a 02 s2k and trust me its a great car. people always rag on the torque but you must realize its way lighter than the Z and you can definetly feel it. the s is a very fun car to drive and can really compete with cars with higher hp and trq i have a friend with a 04 GT and a cousin with a 05 Z i have never lost to the GT even from 0mph and thats out of 7 races even up to 120mph and i was pullin on him, i have yet to race my cousin in his Z but i know that will be comin soon and judging by the specs on the GT and Z they are somewhat similar to each other in acceleration. if your a good driver you can easily beat a car with more torque considering the s is light weight and has aggressive gearing. for the guy that said real sports cars have a hard top, thats availiable for the S and tell that to the droptop lambos. the S atleast where i live you dont see very often and catches alot of peoples eyes. the S has one of the top gearboxes around plus redlines at 9000. the S is great on gas when not in vtec all the time 30+ mpg and with heavy vtec about 24 mpg. and ya the handeling is awesome. honda has great customer service while nissan we all have heard the stories about there way less than perfect customer service. dude do yourself a favor and get the S you definetly wont regret it. i test drove a 06 STI and it was fast yea but couldnt come close to the feel of the S, felt heavier like im sure the Z feels, gearbox was good but not as good, accelerations of the STI was better but the cornering didnt feel as smooth. The S looks are unique and the ladies love the S.

 

its lighter by 350 lbs.....thats not a big difference, the TQ how ever is, 153 vs. 274.....the S2k doesn't look unique either, it looks like a lower miata.
since you have yet to race your cousin, i'll spare you a ticket and possible hummiliation...the s2k won't come close.

if your talking about a 04' mustang GT, the acceleration isn't close either, unless your talking about the mach 1 model. the GT weighs 3400 lbs and has 260 hp. the race between you and the GT must have been pretty close, i dont think you were "pulling" away like you said. my friend is sitting right next to me and he has a 2006 S2k, he thinks your bull ****ting.

Jake

 

Here's a vid between the Z and S2000. The S has faster corner entrance speed, the Z has faster exit speed. I love the S, but I can't fit... so it was out as a choice.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yHTfCbDK-...elated&search=

 

please man spare me the BS bullcrap im just sayin what happened it was a 04 GT no mach one ive looked up specs for them and the Z, S and GT have very similar specs so dont claim your car is that much better. and why would i need to come onto a forum and lie about something that happened im not that sad where i need strangers to think i did somethin i really didnt do. that is pointless. your friend must suck at driving and has gotten killed by one GT to many. i cant wait to race my cousin just so that i will know how full of crap some of you people are just like the domestic GT guys i love all cars im in no way stuck on the S2000 which is why i went and test drove the STI because ive heard good things about it and i thought it would be a great car to own until i test drove and realized it wasnt worth the trade for the S though it still is a great FAST car. dont say your car is that much faster unless it can take me by over 10 cars which is what you make the Z sound to be capable of so take that BS flag and shove it. 350z are quick cars like the S but in no way are our cars considered to be fast. and to your miata comment...so i guess you think every 2 door roadster looks like a miata if you say some stupid stuff like that. cant really compare the looks of those two except the drop top and small size. get over it man

 

If space is not an issue then get an S2000....they are badass and really fun to drive. If you need the space, get a BMW 335i (if you can afford) or 350z.

 

If you're now bringing Bimmers into it, why not get a Lotus if you don't need the space? Faster, better handling and more fun than the S2000.

 

I got rid of my Z for an S2000

 

This post is getting old!

 

....your car has 237 hp and 153 TQ, the Z has 287 hp and 274 TQ. thats not exactly comparable. why exactly did you come on the forum if you own a S2k anyway? to talk about how you think your car is better? im wondering why your shocked im giving you ****, you came on a forum thats for Z owners and/or enthusiasts, and talking about how your car is a close match for a Z....expect it, just like i would if i went on a porsche forum and said my Z will come close in a race with a carrera.

Jake

 

Jeez, what did you guys do? Register on this forum just to comment in this thread, Four posts and two posts respectively as I write this.
BTW, nicely put, Zelig! Couldn't agree more.