'07 350Z or E46 M3?
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
I agree with you regarding maintenance. And I think the M3 has alot more to offer than just track capabilities...which is why it makes is such a well, great balanced car.
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Originally Posted by HDPD350Z
To one of the poster's above... A sedan can be either 2 or 4 doors.
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Originally Posted by fast kiwi
Ahhhh How???? 7 years in the business and im stump'd at this comment?
2 doors = coupe
4 doors = sedan....
Although id love to be wrong so id have a story to tell... so tell me/us...
how does that work????
2 doors = coupe
4 doors = sedan....
Although id love to be wrong so id have a story to tell... so tell me/us...
how does that work????
Originally Posted by Jabdo233
Can't see it dude. I never understood why people need to put swear words in their links. Really retarded IMO.
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theres another 1
Originally Posted by sean10mm
What forum you're posting in doesn't change REALITY, clown. And reality is that anybody who isn't a completely blind Z fanboy realizes that the M3 outclasses it in just about every way, including straight line speed.
Some of you are insane. You think your Nissan has a better interior than a BMW? Looks like huffing glue in your parents' basement did permanent damage.
I own a Z, and love it for what it is, but I'm not delusional.
Some of you are insane. You think your Nissan has a better interior than a BMW? Looks like huffing glue in your parents' basement did permanent damage.
I own a Z, and love it for what it is, but I'm not delusional.
Btw, I have absolutely no problems affording the M3. However, it just doesn't do it for me. And I'm pretty smart with my money. I want something that's actually worth my money. Bimmers are not.
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You guys really are a trip. I've never seen such a truly delusional base of owners.
Let me tell you something. A M3 is not a car you should have to be talked into buying. When you see it...and then drive it....it should be game over. You either understand it and appreciate it for everything that it is, or you don't, and move on to whatever tickles your fancy.
There is a reason it is THE car that any and all sports cars can be and are at sometime compared to...350z, Corvette, 911, S4...it has a little flavor from all of them. It is the perfect all around sports car. There is a reason a new one's arrival is always one of the most anticipated car debuts. And there's a reason it can still kick its competitions' asses 5 years on into production. It elevates the bar everytime.
The 350z is a cheap, and generally, a relatively ho-hum car (the 07 has stepped it up a lot however). Yes, it's fun to drive, but it's a bargain sports car, and you're lieing to yourself if you think otherwise. The interior sucks *****...the styling of 03-05 cars already looks dreadfully outdated and they're E-V-E-R-Y-W-H-E-R-E...everywhere!!! You can yap all you want about "Well I see E46 M3's a lot too!" Compare production numbers...end of story.
The M3 is faster, more practical, more solid, higher quality, higher class, etc. When you buy one, you aren't just buying a great sports car...you're buying into an experience to a great deal. For example, would you like taking your car to a BMW dealership or a Nissan dealership? And almost anyone and everyone that's even somewhat into cars knows what an M3 is...it's pretty darn special.
I'll leave it at that. Just go drive one. I think you'll understand when you wind out one of the greatest 6-cylinder motors in existence that debuted with the International Best New Engine Award and held the title of reigning best 3-4 litre motor for 5 years afterwards (until it was discontinued from production)...but then again, maybe not.
The ONLY positive things you get with a Z are a truly more raw sports car feel (although in the M3's defense again, at least they don't offer a damn 5-spd automatic for all those "sport's car enthusiasts
) and the peace of mind of a brand spanking new car that no one's ever had that greasy mits on and with a full warranty to boot. And that's worth a whole lot IMHO...enough to completely offset the balance of the scales. And, of course, you may truly prefer its looks, but that's subjective.
Let me tell you something. A M3 is not a car you should have to be talked into buying. When you see it...and then drive it....it should be game over. You either understand it and appreciate it for everything that it is, or you don't, and move on to whatever tickles your fancy.
There is a reason it is THE car that any and all sports cars can be and are at sometime compared to...350z, Corvette, 911, S4...it has a little flavor from all of them. It is the perfect all around sports car. There is a reason a new one's arrival is always one of the most anticipated car debuts. And there's a reason it can still kick its competitions' asses 5 years on into production. It elevates the bar everytime.
The 350z is a cheap, and generally, a relatively ho-hum car (the 07 has stepped it up a lot however). Yes, it's fun to drive, but it's a bargain sports car, and you're lieing to yourself if you think otherwise. The interior sucks *****...the styling of 03-05 cars already looks dreadfully outdated and they're E-V-E-R-Y-W-H-E-R-E...everywhere!!! You can yap all you want about "Well I see E46 M3's a lot too!" Compare production numbers...end of story.
The M3 is faster, more practical, more solid, higher quality, higher class, etc. When you buy one, you aren't just buying a great sports car...you're buying into an experience to a great deal. For example, would you like taking your car to a BMW dealership or a Nissan dealership? And almost anyone and everyone that's even somewhat into cars knows what an M3 is...it's pretty darn special.
I'll leave it at that. Just go drive one. I think you'll understand when you wind out one of the greatest 6-cylinder motors in existence that debuted with the International Best New Engine Award and held the title of reigning best 3-4 litre motor for 5 years afterwards (until it was discontinued from production)...but then again, maybe not.
The ONLY positive things you get with a Z are a truly more raw sports car feel (although in the M3's defense again, at least they don't offer a damn 5-spd automatic for all those "sport's car enthusiasts
) and the peace of mind of a brand spanking new car that no one's ever had that greasy mits on and with a full warranty to boot. And that's worth a whole lot IMHO...enough to completely offset the balance of the scales. And, of course, you may truly prefer its looks, but that's subjective.
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Used sports car FTL. Bimmers have break in periods too, if the old owner burned the sh** out of it and you didn't know, then you could be in a world of trouble. Why take chances when you can get a better looking IMO brand new car?
Originally Posted by porschefan1013
You guys really are a trip. I've never seen such a truly delusional base of owners.
Let me tell you something. A M3 is not a car you should have to be talked into buying. When you see it...and then drive it....it should be game over. You either understand it and appreciate it for everything that it is, or you don't, and move on to whatever tickles your fancy.
There is a reason it is THE car that any and all sports cars can be and are at sometime compared to...350z, Corvette, 911, S4...it has a little flavor from all of them. It is the perfect all around sports car. There is a reason a new one's arrival is always one of the most anticipated car debuts. And there's a reason it can still kick its competitions' asses 5 years on into production. It elevates the bar everytime.
The 350z is a cheap, and generally, a relatively ho-hum car (the 07 has stepped it up a lot however). Yes, it's fun to drive, but it's a bargain sports car, and you're lieing to yourself if you think otherwise. The interior sucks *****...the styling of 03-05 cars already looks dreadfully outdated and they're E-V-E-R-Y-W-H-E-R-E...everywhere!!! You can yap all you want about "Well I see E46 M3's a lot too!" Compare production numbers...end of story.
The M3 is faster, more practical, more solid, higher quality, higher class, etc. When you buy one, you aren't just buying a great sports car...you're buying into an experience to a great deal. For example, would you like taking your car to a BMW dealership or a Nissan dealership? And almost anyone and everyone that's even somewhat into cars knows what an M3 is...it's pretty darn special.
I'll leave it at that. Just go drive one. I think you'll understand when you wind out one of the greatest 6-cylinder motors in existence that debuted with the International Best New Engine Award and held the title of reigning best 3-4 litre motor for 5 years afterwards (until it was discontinued from production)...but then again, maybe not.
The ONLY positive things you get with a Z are a truly more raw sports car feel (although in the M3's defense again, at least they don't offer a damn 5-spd automatic for all those "sport's car enthusiasts ) and the peace of mind of a brand spanking new car that no one's ever had that greasy mits on and with a full warranty to boot. And that's worth a whole lot IMHO...enough to completely offset the balance of the scales. And, of course, you may truly prefer its looks, but that's subjective.
Let me tell you something. A M3 is not a car you should have to be talked into buying. When you see it...and then drive it....it should be game over. You either understand it and appreciate it for everything that it is, or you don't, and move on to whatever tickles your fancy.
There is a reason it is THE car that any and all sports cars can be and are at sometime compared to...350z, Corvette, 911, S4...it has a little flavor from all of them. It is the perfect all around sports car. There is a reason a new one's arrival is always one of the most anticipated car debuts. And there's a reason it can still kick its competitions' asses 5 years on into production. It elevates the bar everytime.
The 350z is a cheap, and generally, a relatively ho-hum car (the 07 has stepped it up a lot however). Yes, it's fun to drive, but it's a bargain sports car, and you're lieing to yourself if you think otherwise. The interior sucks *****...the styling of 03-05 cars already looks dreadfully outdated and they're E-V-E-R-Y-W-H-E-R-E...everywhere!!! You can yap all you want about "Well I see E46 M3's a lot too!" Compare production numbers...end of story.
The M3 is faster, more practical, more solid, higher quality, higher class, etc. When you buy one, you aren't just buying a great sports car...you're buying into an experience to a great deal. For example, would you like taking your car to a BMW dealership or a Nissan dealership? And almost anyone and everyone that's even somewhat into cars knows what an M3 is...it's pretty darn special.
I'll leave it at that. Just go drive one. I think you'll understand when you wind out one of the greatest 6-cylinder motors in existence that debuted with the International Best New Engine Award and held the title of reigning best 3-4 litre motor for 5 years afterwards (until it was discontinued from production)...but then again, maybe not.
The ONLY positive things you get with a Z are a truly more raw sports car feel (although in the M3's defense again, at least they don't offer a damn 5-spd automatic for all those "sport's car enthusiasts
) and the peace of mind of a brand spanking new car that no one's ever had that greasy mits on and with a full warranty to boot. And that's worth a whole lot IMHO...enough to completely offset the balance of the scales. And, of course, you may truly prefer its looks, but that's subjective.
And M cars are not the same as non-m cars. Non-M cars are on a lower scale of performance without a doubt. Except for the 335 and 135 coming out.... OEM turbos are great.
Last edited by itsjiggajames; Sep 2, 2007 at 03:18 AM.
Originally Posted by sean10mm
Z owners putting down the E46 M3? Hilarious. The M3 outclasses the Z in just about every way possible...performance, interior quality, practicality, exclusivity, class, you name it. Of course, it should, since it's a much more expensive car...the comparison to the Z really isn't fair, except to fanboy morons of course.
The one big downside of the M3 is the cost of ownership, which is a colossal ***** once it goes out of warranty. And of course the cost of the car in general.
The one big downside of the M3 is the cost of ownership, which is a colossal ***** once it goes out of warranty. And of course the cost of the car in general.
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Originally Posted by Rexy7
yes, im putting the m3 down cause ur hilarious..
Originally Posted by Rexy7
imagine what the 07 would do to the e46.
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Bestmotoring a joke?? Would you call keiichi "drift king" tsuchiya a joke? note that these test drivers for Best Motoring also drive JGTC in Japan. Trying watch touge bestmotoring and see what these guys can do, you can only dream of having skill like these guys.
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Originally Posted by Rexy7
Bestmotoring a joke?? Would you call keiichi "drift king" tsuchiya a joke? note that these test drivers for Best Motoring also drive JGTC in Japan..unless your a red neck you know what JGTC is.
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Originally Posted by porschefan1013
You guys really are a trip. I've never seen such a truly delusional base of owners.
The M3 is faster, more practical, more solid, higher quality, higher class, etc. When you buy one, you aren't just buying a great sports car...you're buying into an experience to a great deal. For example, would you like taking your car to a BMW dealership or a Nissan dealership? And almost anyone and everyone that's even somewhat into cars knows what an M3 is...it's pretty darn special.
I'll leave it at that. Just go drive one. I think you'll understand when you wind out one of the greatest 6-cylinder motors in existence that debuted with the International Best New Engine Award and held the title of reigning best 3-4 litre motor for 5 years afterwards (until it was discontinued from production)...but then again, maybe not.
The ONLY positive things you get with a Z are a truly more raw sports car feel (although in the M3's defense again, at least they don't offer a damn 5-spd automatic for all those "sport's car enthusiasts ) and the peace of mind of a brand spanking new car that no one's ever had that greasy mits on and with a full warranty to boot. And that's worth a whole lot IMHO...enough to completely offset the balance of the scales. And, of course, you may truly prefer its looks, but that's subjective.
The M3 is faster, more practical, more solid, higher quality, higher class, etc. When you buy one, you aren't just buying a great sports car...you're buying into an experience to a great deal. For example, would you like taking your car to a BMW dealership or a Nissan dealership? And almost anyone and everyone that's even somewhat into cars knows what an M3 is...it's pretty darn special.
I'll leave it at that. Just go drive one. I think you'll understand when you wind out one of the greatest 6-cylinder motors in existence that debuted with the International Best New Engine Award and held the title of reigning best 3-4 litre motor for 5 years afterwards (until it was discontinued from production)...but then again, maybe not.
The ONLY positive things you get with a Z are a truly more raw sports car feel (although in the M3's defense again, at least they don't offer a damn 5-spd automatic for all those "sport's car enthusiasts
) and the peace of mind of a brand spanking new car that no one's ever had that greasy mits on and with a full warranty to boot. And that's worth a whole lot IMHO...enough to completely offset the balance of the scales. And, of course, you may truly prefer its looks, but that's subjective.You sound like a commercial.
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Originally Posted by porschefan1013
You guys really are a trip. I've never seen such a truly delusional base of owners.
Let me tell you something. A M3 is not a car you should have to be talked into buying. When you see it...and then drive it....it should be game over. You either understand it and appreciate it for everything that it is, or you don't, and move on to whatever tickles your fancy.
There is a reason it is THE car that any and all sports cars can be and are at sometime compared to...350z, Corvette, 911, S4...it has a little flavor from all of them. It is the perfect all around sports car. There is a reason a new one's arrival is always one of the most anticipated car debuts. And there's a reason it can still kick its competitions' asses 5 years on into production. It elevates the bar everytime.
The 350z is a cheap, and generally, a relatively ho-hum car (the 07 has stepped it up a lot however). Yes, it's fun to drive, but it's a bargain sports car, and you're lieing to yourself if you think otherwise. The interior sucks *****...the styling of 03-05 cars already looks dreadfully outdated and they're E-V-E-R-Y-W-H-E-R-E...everywhere!!! You can yap all you want about "Well I see E46 M3's a lot too!" Compare production numbers...end of story.
The M3 is faster, more practical, more solid, higher quality, higher class, etc. When you buy one, you aren't just buying a great sports car...you're buying into an experience to a great deal. For example, would you like taking your car to a BMW dealership or a Nissan dealership? And almost anyone and everyone that's even somewhat into cars knows what an M3 is...it's pretty darn special.
I'll leave it at that. Just go drive one. I think you'll understand when you wind out one of the greatest 6-cylinder motors in existence that debuted with the International Best New Engine Award and held the title of reigning best 3-4 litre motor for 5 years afterwards (until it was discontinued from production)...but then again, maybe not.
The ONLY positive things you get with a Z are a truly more raw sports car feel (although in the M3's defense again, at least they don't offer a damn 5-spd automatic for all those "sport's car enthusiasts ) and the peace of mind of a brand spanking new car that no one's ever had that greasy mits on and with a full warranty to boot. And that's worth a whole lot IMHO...enough to completely offset the balance of the scales. And, of course, you may truly prefer its looks, but that's subjective.
Let me tell you something. A M3 is not a car you should have to be talked into buying. When you see it...and then drive it....it should be game over. You either understand it and appreciate it for everything that it is, or you don't, and move on to whatever tickles your fancy.
There is a reason it is THE car that any and all sports cars can be and are at sometime compared to...350z, Corvette, 911, S4...it has a little flavor from all of them. It is the perfect all around sports car. There is a reason a new one's arrival is always one of the most anticipated car debuts. And there's a reason it can still kick its competitions' asses 5 years on into production. It elevates the bar everytime.
The 350z is a cheap, and generally, a relatively ho-hum car (the 07 has stepped it up a lot however). Yes, it's fun to drive, but it's a bargain sports car, and you're lieing to yourself if you think otherwise. The interior sucks *****...the styling of 03-05 cars already looks dreadfully outdated and they're E-V-E-R-Y-W-H-E-R-E...everywhere!!! You can yap all you want about "Well I see E46 M3's a lot too!" Compare production numbers...end of story.
The M3 is faster, more practical, more solid, higher quality, higher class, etc. When you buy one, you aren't just buying a great sports car...you're buying into an experience to a great deal. For example, would you like taking your car to a BMW dealership or a Nissan dealership? And almost anyone and everyone that's even somewhat into cars knows what an M3 is...it's pretty darn special.
I'll leave it at that. Just go drive one. I think you'll understand when you wind out one of the greatest 6-cylinder motors in existence that debuted with the International Best New Engine Award and held the title of reigning best 3-4 litre motor for 5 years afterwards (until it was discontinued from production)...but then again, maybe not.
The ONLY positive things you get with a Z are a truly more raw sports car feel (although in the M3's defense again, at least they don't offer a damn 5-spd automatic for all those "sport's car enthusiasts
) and the peace of mind of a brand spanking new car that no one's ever had that greasy mits on and with a full warranty to boot. And that's worth a whole lot IMHO...enough to completely offset the balance of the scales. And, of course, you may truly prefer its looks, but that's subjective.
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Just something to think about...I'm not sure if this happens often but my friend's E46 M3 (early MY with low miles) just had an engine failure. It's pretty common to early MY Boxsters with low mileage (and you cannot really rebuild these...you pretty much have to get a new engine) as well but like I said, I'm not sure if this is common on the E46 M3's.
If I had to make the same choice, I'd be more worried about maintenance and repairs on the M3 than anything else. The Z is much cheaper in terms of upkeep (so far it's just been gas and go) but the M3's seem to hold their value better. Prices should go down a bit for the M3 when the new gen V8's come out...
If I had to make the same choice, I'd be more worried about maintenance and repairs on the M3 than anything else. The Z is much cheaper in terms of upkeep (so far it's just been gas and go) but the M3's seem to hold their value better. Prices should go down a bit for the M3 when the new gen V8's come out...
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Originally Posted by Tubbs
Why so nasty? And why believe everyone is a fanboy? Many people here could easily afford M3's. But the reality is, they are not that impressive in any way, bigger, heavier, less reliable and less value per dollar. Plus it looks identical to the cheaper models. And I mentioned the interior. What is it that you like about it so much? It is so boring and uninspired to me.
Btw, I have absolutely no problems affording the M3. However, it just doesn't do it for me. And I'm pretty smart with my money. I want something that's actually worth my money. Bimmers are not.
Btw, I have absolutely no problems affording the M3. However, it just doesn't do it for me. And I'm pretty smart with my money. I want something that's actually worth my money. Bimmers are not.
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Originally Posted by BADASSTT
You sound like a commercial.
Why don't you tell me how great the 350z is? I'd love to hear it.Let me guess...VQ blah blah blah...M3's are unreliable blah blah...a 350z is a real (3600lb!!!) 2 seat sports car blah blah blah
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