why do people compare auto z vs. manual (not a war)
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A Vb Upgrade Is Causes The Transmission To Shift Almost Instantaneously So Their Is Not Lag Between Shifts And Yes With The Vb Ugrade Very I Mean Very Few People Will Be Able To Shift Faster You Will Have To Be A Professional Driver Most Likely.
I Want To See A Race Against A Auto With The Same Gearing And A Tune For The Throttlebody I Guarantee The Auto Will Win In A Straight Line Most Of The Time On A Road Course Hell No The Auto Will Not Win No Matter What.
I Want To See A Race Against A Auto With The Same Gearing And A Tune For The Throttlebody I Guarantee The Auto Will Win In A Straight Line Most Of The Time On A Road Course Hell No The Auto Will Not Win No Matter What.
Originally Posted by Rexy7
autos do not belong on a sports car, it really takes out the enjoyment of driving a sports car. Thats why its called a "sports car" because you have to work at it to get the car moving.
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A sports car is type of automobile designed for sporting performance. While opinions differ as to the exact definition, most sports cars have two seats and two doors, and are designed to excel at a combination of acceleration, top speed, braking, and maneuverability. Great emphasis is often placed on handling—the ability of the car to remain in the control of the driver under challenging condition such as when the car's tires begin to lose their grip on corners.
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Originally Posted by HDPD350Z
If both are extremely good driver's, then who knows. I would tend to give the edge in that scenario to the MT driver, but has there been a match up of that skill level.
Equal skill average drivers? Could go either way, since I'm taking into account the MT driver not being the best at shifting.
Equal skill average drivers? Could go either way, since I'm taking into account the MT driver not being the best at shifting.
when i book the time slots i will make a thread. of it.Im telling you man, anyone thats been road racing if your money is on the AT with both equally skilled driver with proper merits inn racing. I mean, its a no brainer.
I couldnt stand driving a auto Z that i drove and attempted to heal toe shift at a 75 degree turn entering a slalom. And realized that i had to use the tiptronic uuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh how fustrating and use my brakes more to correct and gas. The one thing im surpised with is that the autos do rev match lmao. Thats a godsend for those who wanna run them.
Last edited by RBlover69; Sep 20, 2007 at 01:37 PM.
Originally Posted by md350
^Yeah, I'll be curious to see the results. I'll bet the AT and MT times will be very far from one another, just like in the 1/4 mile time sticky.
Wait, nevermind.
Wait, nevermind.
Then again this argument is for 1/4 racing which would be optimal consistantly for a auto this is actaully a very close match time wise.
my argument was for a road race type setup. That i can assure u would be different. Argue all you want about the1/4 since i dont 1/4 , ....
Last edited by RBlover69; Sep 20, 2007 at 01:43 PM.
How many autos are on the list? How many autos are even on this site? Most members have an MT.
And like I said, I'll be curious to see the results...especially since AT Z's can't select gears
Still don't see why people put down their own car cause of a tranny.
And like I said, I'll be curious to see the results...especially since AT Z's can't select gears
Still don't see why people put down their own car cause of a tranny.
Originally Posted by md350
How many autos are on the list? How many autos are even on this site? Most members have an MT.
And like I said, I'll be curious to see the results...especially since AT Z's can't select gears
Still don't see why people put down their own car cause of a tranny.
And like I said, I'll be curious to see the results...especially since AT Z's can't select gears
Still don't see why people put down their own car cause of a tranny.
and if there not alot of autos then dont use that arugument as a point because its obviously not valid.
Originally Posted by Black Duck
Really? Is that why BMW, Merc etc are making most of their high powered vehicles with semi autos then. I love driving a manual but lets face it, with modern technology, times are changing.
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This whole debate is really stupid.
if my sole purpose was to road race... if my car was a garage queen... or if it was the only tranny available... i would be slammin' that third pedal.
luckily for me, i dont road race, it's my daily driver, and the A/T option is avilabale.... and it's still fun as hell to drive.
ya'll can argue all you want, ima go drive my Z with a big smile on my face...
luckily for me, i dont road race, it's my daily driver, and the A/T option is avilabale.... and it's still fun as hell to drive.
ya'll can argue all you want, ima go drive my Z with a big smile on my face...
well I got an auto Z n I drove a 6sp z too, to me it makes no difference really the car is still fast, and i chose the auto since i drive about an hour n half in traffic 3-4 days a week and didnt wanna deal with the manual
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Yes in a road race my money is on the manual for sure im not arguing that point at all im just talking about drag racing. Some one asked about how would you change the gearing you would just use the gear and pumpkin for a 6 speed and for the throttle body you would need a ecu tune to keep the valve open at launch. Usually a 6 speed guy will do a swap with you when they go turbo because they usually want higher gearing beacause of traction issues.
Originally Posted by marques1
Yes in a road race my money is on the manual for sure im not arguing that point at all im just talking about drag racing. Some one asked about how would you change the gearing you would just use the gear and pumpkin for a 6 speed and for the throttle body you would need a ecu tune to keep the valve open at launch. Usually a 6 speed guy will do a swap with you when they go turbo because they usually want higher gearing beacause of traction issues.
Yea , id say for sure that the gap is def getting smaller between the transmissions. But for, ...my actual preference besides a 6MT close ratio gear box.
My optimum setup would be a sequential gear box. FTW
driving next to a rally STI with a sequential gear box btw sounds like a effortless transition when swtiching gears. If u never seen one or driven one. I would def tell anyone if ur into cars to go see one in action . Awesome but cost a arm and a leg. lol
It's amazing how the so-called experts here know so much about the 350Z A/T. The 350Z's A/T is bulletproof and performs as well as any M/T out there. It all comes down to the driver. Perhaps, instead of wasting your time trying to prove your worthless point about the A/T's lack of performance capability, you may want to spend more time at the track.
During this past weekend's autocross event, I finished first in my class against three turbo M/T cars (two STIs and an MR2). In addition, my best time was faster than one Z06, an M3 and a Lotus.
Again, instead of speculating on which one performs better, take your Z to the track and race it. I can tell you from first hand experience that my A/T Z is not a slouch. Heck, two weeks ago, I ran faster than an '07 NISMO M/T Z . . . go figure!
During this past weekend's autocross event, I finished first in my class against three turbo M/T cars (two STIs and an MR2). In addition, my best time was faster than one Z06, an M3 and a Lotus.
Again, instead of speculating on which one performs better, take your Z to the track and race it. I can tell you from first hand experience that my A/T Z is not a slouch. Heck, two weeks ago, I ran faster than an '07 NISMO M/T Z . . . go figure!
Last edited by z-u-later; Sep 20, 2007 at 08:29 PM.
Originally Posted by Rexy7
autos do not belong on a sports car, it really takes out the enjoyment of driving a sports car. Thats why its called a "sports car" because you have to work at it to get the car moving.
I think every AT Z owner would agree that they chose an AUTO for practicality, for people that live in traffic areas i would say AT is much easier than MT. It gives a driver speed, thrills, and a nice looking car that can be drove everyday easily, this is just my .02 though


