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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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Has anyone read this magazine?

My friend let me borrow the latest issue with the 350Z cover someone posted the other day.

SC managed to get a 14sec quartermile @ 99.2mph and 5.8sec 0-60mph.

The Z they've got is the exact one I'm getting: CS Enthusiast 6spd.

In stock form with 91 Octate fuel, they measured 244HP and 238 lb-ft. With 100 octane, they got 249HP and 240lb-ft.

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THANx!
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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Default Re: Sport Compact...

Originally posted by djtonium

In stock form with 91 Octate fuel, they measured 244HP and 238 lb-ft. With 100 octane, they got 249HP and 240lb-ft.

If this mag. info has been posted already, please delete this thread.

THANx!
Assuming that's at the wheels, (if those numbers are at the engine, there are going to be a whole lot of pissed of Z owners) that is just about the HP we should expect. 244 is 15% HP loss, and 249 is 13.3% loss. But I sure wish they would have measured the HP using 93 Octane which is what most of us will be putting in the car.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:56 PM
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It's at the wheels... thats the info everyone wants.
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 12:18 AM
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while I realize that 244 is a realistic expectation to have, it is still depressing to see the number drop from an impressive 287! but a 14 flat? nice. p.s. anyone know the boxster or boxster s hp at the wheels? just wondering how Porsche does in power loss.
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by djtonium

In stock form with 91 Octate fuel, they measured 244HP and 238 lb-ft. With 100 octane, they got 249HP and 240lb-ft.
THANx!
Good numbers!!

That's only 15% drivetrain loss. Very good.

The 90-96 TwinTurbos had approximately 20% drivetrain loss with approximately 240RWHP stock.

Hello carbon fiber driveshaft!
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 01:09 AM
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SC managed to get a 14sec quartermile @ 99.2mph and 5.8sec 0-60mph.

Did they leave the emergency brake on ?
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 01:14 AM
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Those times really dont make any sense. How did they get such a slow 0-60 and under 100mph trap speed and still manage to get a 14 sec 1/4? Someone must explain that to me.
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 01:22 AM
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Yeah, that's pretty weak. I got a 99.82 mph trap speed in my Accord (~3000-3150lb w/ driver) with my previous 239.1wtq and 192whp setup. I'm guessing that they weren't launching the car well at all. I'd really be curious to see the 60' times that these magazines are getting with the Z...
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 01:33 AM
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It doesn't sound like they were driving it very agressively or the conditions were terrible. It seems to me that SCC isnt good at launching a car that isn't front or all wheel drive anyway.. if you look at a lot of their other tests of high horsepower rear wheel drive cars their 1/4 mile times are pretty weak.

I'm really anxious for more people to get their Z's in and take them to the track and see what they get. I bet by the end of next month we will see a bunch of 13 second 1/4 mile times, probably 13.7 or better at 103+ mph.
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 01:39 AM
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I think you're right John.... I even had a chance to look at the R&T issue today... WTF? 14.3 @ 100.4mph?

How fast you can to the 1320 isn't everything, but still, that's a pretty disappointing stat... I give a :thumbdown: to R&T for their weak performance results
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 02:19 AM
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It seems like when it comes to Nissan, these bastards magically lose their driving skills.

Also weren't they supposed to do an exhaust mod or something in this issue, if so what time did they get after that?
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 02:42 AM
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I hope you guys are right.
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 02:54 AM
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Maybe they don't know where the VDC/TCS Off button is??
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 07:32 PM
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Can anyone scan in the article from SCC?
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 07:38 PM
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I highly doubt it, but is it possible it was an Auto? Ooops i dont think enthus comes with auto? do they, i cant remmber, ill have to refresh the old tinker.........



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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 08:06 PM
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The auto was available on the Enthusiast and Touring models. I would be surprised if SCC tested an auto though.

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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 08:36 PM
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The 0-60 and 1/4 mile times were when using the 91 octane gas which robbed some power. They dynoed the car at 244 horsepower and 238 lb-ft torque with the 91 octane and 249 horsepower and 240 lb-ft torque with the 100 octane.

They also tested a car the had modded later and turned a 13.9 at 100.3. The mods were interesting because the shorter, wider tires were probably what took the tenth of a second off as the exhaust they tested lost 3 hp!

Overall the articles are worth the read. Not the same cookie cutter articles we have been reading up til now. The testing of the mods seems to indicate the car is engineered nicely right out of the box, but has room for improvement once the tuners have enough development time.

There is also a nice picture of the underbody of the car and the use of undercladding for improving aero is really interesting. The leading edge of the muffler even has its own air dam!
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Old Aug 19, 2002 | 03:53 AM
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Default Re: Sport Compact...

Originally posted by djtonium
Has anyone read this magazine?

The Z they've got is the exact one I'm getting: CS Enthusiast 6spd.

THANx!

You guys need to work on your comprehension

6spd not auto, if they don't know how to drive they might have actually done better with the auto
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Old Aug 19, 2002 | 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by raceboy
Maybe they don't know where the VDC/TCS Off button is??
Does either the VDC or LSD result in greater or reduced hp loss from the engine to the wheels?

Thanks,
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Old Aug 19, 2002 | 07:08 AM
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I have the VDC/TCS in my I35 and it's extrememly aggressive on cutting power when you are trying your best Kenney Bernstein impersonation. It would greatly increase 0-60 and 1/4 mile times if you left it on.
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