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Hey gang,
Does anyone have the production volume numbers? It seems to me that such a overall fantastic vehicle (for a fantastic price considering...) is going to be significantly popular. Any risks at this becoming as prevalent as say... a civic? Part of the appeal of this car to me is that its stylings are unlike any car on the road today. But will that uniqueness (sp?) will be deminished by the volume of 350z on the road?
It just seems like for the price, its an awful lot of car that is well in most peoples price range.
thoughts? opinions?
d
Does anyone have the production volume numbers? It seems to me that such a overall fantastic vehicle (for a fantastic price considering...) is going to be significantly popular. Any risks at this becoming as prevalent as say... a civic? Part of the appeal of this car to me is that its stylings are unlike any car on the road today. But will that uniqueness (sp?) will be deminished by the volume of 350z on the road?
It just seems like for the price, its an awful lot of car that is well in most peoples price range.
thoughts? opinions?
d
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I have seen, NNA says it will prdouce 30,000 Z's for 2003, In comparison for the 02 Altima they had projections of 180, 000. So judge for yourself, how many New Altimas do you see on the road and realize there will be only 1/6 the number of Z's. Hope that helps. I got these numbers off freshalloy a few months ago.
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well there will be more of them than boxsters that's for sure, but there is really a limited market for $30K 2-seat cars.
Take all the 2 seaters sold in the US in one year and that might equal the number of honda civics sold in a year. And the Z will not change that number significantly.
Take all the 2 seaters sold in the US in one year and that might equal the number of honda civics sold in a year. And the Z will not change that number significantly.
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It's going to take quite a while to catch up to the Boxster.
Porsche sold 25,747 Boxsters last year, and as of now I think there are around 150,000 of them in existence.
So considering Nissan plans to make 30,000 Z's a year, it will be 4 or 5 years before they are as common as Boxsters currently are.
Its funny, my friend bought a Boxster in 1996 when they came out, and at the time Porsche was saying they would only make 5000 a year to keep them exclusive.
Porsche sold 25,747 Boxsters last year, and as of now I think there are around 150,000 of them in existence.
So considering Nissan plans to make 30,000 Z's a year, it will be 4 or 5 years before they are as common as Boxsters currently are.
Its funny, my friend bought a Boxster in 1996 when they came out, and at the time Porsche was saying they would only make 5000 a year to keep them exclusive.
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2 points.
1) There were 30,000 ACURA RSX Cars produced in 2002. (I see quite a few RSX's everyday -- its very strange but true -- Z might have the same popularity on the road)
2) Boxsters were meant to be high volume cars, because Porsche needed to capitalize on its name in a high volume car that the "masses" could afford. So it is obvious that no limited production for the BOxster would be
1) There were 30,000 ACURA RSX Cars produced in 2002. (I see quite a few RSX's everyday -- its very strange but true -- Z might have the same popularity on the road)
2) Boxsters were meant to be high volume cars, because Porsche needed to capitalize on its name in a high volume car that the "masses" could afford. So it is obvious that no limited production for the BOxster would be
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Originally posted by LowFuel
It's going to take quite a while to catch up to the Boxster.
Porsche sold 25,747 Boxsters last year, and as of now I think there are around 150,000 of them in existence.
So considering Nissan plans to make 30,000 Z's a year, it will be 4 or 5 years before they are as common as Boxsters currently are.
It's going to take quite a while to catch up to the Boxster.
Porsche sold 25,747 Boxsters last year, and as of now I think there are around 150,000 of them in existence.
So considering Nissan plans to make 30,000 Z's a year, it will be 4 or 5 years before they are as common as Boxsters currently are.
Now the Z is going to sell 30,000+ in the USA the first year and can go higher with the convertible (depending on demand). But you are correct in that it will take a couple or three years for the Z to be more common than the boxster. A better example would be the S2000 with only like 17,000 units so far in the USA.
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Hi all. First post here. My understanding is that the Z's sales numbers are supposed to be pretty close to the C5 Corvette. So, every time you see a Vette, just imagine that it's a Z. The C5 has been in production for 5 years (now beginning its 6th). While it's far from a rare sight, I still don't see just a whole ton of them.
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Originally posted by LowFuel
Ok - sorry, I thought Nissan's 30k Z's was worldwide.
Anyway if anyone is buying this car for exclusitivity, I think you made the wrong choice, personally.
Ok - sorry, I thought Nissan's 30k Z's was worldwide.
Anyway if anyone is buying this car for exclusitivity, I think you made the wrong choice, personally.
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robbyn,
According to another thread here, the production line(s) at the Oppama (correct?) plant are designed for 4800 units per month, this averages out to 57600 units a year, at max capacity, normally you would run the line at 85% capacity (remember this from one of my mba classes), so based upon that Nissan would crank out about 49000 a year, round it up say 50K. The 50K number has been what Nissan is telling everybody so far.
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According to another thread here, the production line(s) at the Oppama (correct?) plant are designed for 4800 units per month, this averages out to 57600 units a year, at max capacity, normally you would run the line at 85% capacity (remember this from one of my mba classes), so based upon that Nissan would crank out about 49000 a year, round it up say 50K. The 50K number has been what Nissan is telling everybody so far.
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Remember cars are not evenly distributed throughout the country. For example I would say that I see as many S2000's as Boxsters even though the Boxster is more numerous. While people in LA may see multiple boxsters every day.
Also the Z may be more of an everyday car while S2000's and Boxsters may be weekend toys and may not be seen as often.
I really can't see nissan selling less Z's next year than this year, I think that 20,000(US) number is just some number they feel comfortable with, and don't want to aim too high as far as sales go.
Also I think if sales do drop off in the US, there are markets that are now recieving limited numbers that will pick up any excess prouction. I say this because porsche sells 40% of its cars in the US while nissan is selling 60% of Z's here.
Also the Z may be more of an everyday car while S2000's and Boxsters may be weekend toys and may not be seen as often.
I really can't see nissan selling less Z's next year than this year, I think that 20,000(US) number is just some number they feel comfortable with, and don't want to aim too high as far as sales go.
Also I think if sales do drop off in the US, there are markets that are now recieving limited numbers that will pick up any excess prouction. I say this because porsche sells 40% of its cars in the US while nissan is selling 60% of Z's here.
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The Z just like the RSX will just be on the road longer. These are Japenesse cars and they just seem to last much longer. I mean in Jersey I still see tons of 300ZXs third and fourth gen. And I guess it's been 5 years or so but I remeber seeing lots of 280ZXs as well.
It might be me though I have loved Zs and ZXs since I can remeber what a car was. My father had one a 240ZX and 280ZX that he gave to me when it was 10 years old and I always wanted the 300ZXTT. So maybe I'm just always on the look out for one...
But I agree that it will take at least 3-5 years before these cars become a common sight on the road.
It really doesn't matter though There will only be a few true pre-orders, the maniacs that bought the car before seeing nothing but pictures of one color, no idea about options, HP, torque, specs, and no test drive. And then followed the progress of our cars for what seems like forever waiting, and posting, and reading, and calling, and waiting. So no matter what we are the true pioneers of the Zs re-birth. It would have been nice if Nissan marked these cars in a special way (besides the VIN), like a nice emblem on the car that proved we where the first.
It might be me though I have loved Zs and ZXs since I can remeber what a car was. My father had one a 240ZX and 280ZX that he gave to me when it was 10 years old and I always wanted the 300ZXTT. So maybe I'm just always on the look out for one...
But I agree that it will take at least 3-5 years before these cars become a common sight on the road.
It really doesn't matter though There will only be a few true pre-orders, the maniacs that bought the car before seeing nothing but pictures of one color, no idea about options, HP, torque, specs, and no test drive. And then followed the progress of our cars for what seems like forever waiting, and posting, and reading, and calling, and waiting. So no matter what we are the true pioneers of the Zs re-birth. It would have been nice if Nissan marked these cars in a special way (besides the VIN), like a nice emblem on the car that proved we where the first.
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Originally posted by rai
A better example would be the S2000 with only like 17,000 units so far in the USA.
A better example would be the S2000 with only like 17,000 units so far in the USA.
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Oh no. If you see that many S2000's you will be seeing Z's everywhere. You will have to remember where you parked. Ever of up to a car in a parking lot you thought was yours but the key doesn't fit?
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Originally posted by jims2321
robbyn,
According to another thread here, the production line(s) at the Oppama (correct?) plant are designed for 4800 units per month, this averages out to 57600 units a year, at max capacity, normally you would run the line at 85% capacity (remember this from one of my mba classes), so based upon that Nissan would crank out about 49000 a year, round it up say 50K. The 50K number has been what Nissan is telling everybody so far.
Jim
robbyn,
According to another thread here, the production line(s) at the Oppama (correct?) plant are designed for 4800 units per month, this averages out to 57600 units a year, at max capacity, normally you would run the line at 85% capacity (remember this from one of my mba classes), so based upon that Nissan would crank out about 49000 a year, round it up say 50K. The 50K number has been what Nissan is telling everybody so far.
Jim
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Good, the more they build the better the aftermarket for performance parts. My current MR2 Spyder is a limited volume car (about 5000 per year U.S. for the past 2.5 years) and the aftermarket still sucks.
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