Another God-like post by my boy.

 

An automatic and a true "paddle-shift" semi-auto are completely different. A "paddle-shift" is basically a manual transmission with a computer controlled clutch. Generally speaking, an automatic will shift slower than a semi-auto.

 

I'm not questioning the numbers, but do you know if there have been any independent verification of this? Also, what trim levels are you talking about when you compare weights?

 

Haha you got that right.

LOL at the guy who said stock for stock AT wins

 

my argument was that the auto clutch does not require you to loose power and or time pushing it in. whether it's auto or paddle, no clutching saves time!! Plus i believe that the newer Z's 07 and up also have the manual shift mode, or as i call it Tip Tronic. so either u can jam the gas and just concentrate on passing the guy, or you can manually shift as you like with out the discomfort of using a clutch.

thats all i was getting at. You have to drive both and see the difference to understand what im saying.

 

Reap3R: Don't think in terms of "speed"; think in terms of "savings". If you can
get an 'O5 with low mileage for LE$$, why pay more for an 'O7??? How often do you actually race?! On a daily basis?---v-e-r-y dangerous AND expen$ive!
You'll get exactly the same thrills in an 'O5, as in an 'O7, at a much better price, dude! "Winning in a race" is "fun", at best; keeping $$ in your pocket is
even MORE FUN! So, sit down, analyze your finances, then decide what's best
for you. Good luck!
BTW!: ATs in our monZters are MUCH, MUCH more reliable than MTs---per statistics! Only 1 MPG less
for ATs, than for MTs!!!

 

^^exactly!! basically the same car...just pay less!!

 

WTF is an auto clutch? You DO realize that an auto Z HAS NO CLUTCH right?

Also, all Z's have a "manual" shift mode on the autos (again not a TRUE manual).

Have you ever noticed that auto Zs are not only slower at the track, but they also dyno (on average) lower? The torque converters eat power up. There's way more loss compared to having a clutch and flywheel.

Srsly, anyone who thinks automatics are more performance-oriented should be falcon punched.

LMAO at the following:

"... or as I call it Tip Tronic" Like you invented the ****ing term.

"... or you can manually shift as you like with out the discomfort of using a clutch" What are you, a girly man? Discomfort? Please. You want discomfort, try my clutch. Manually shift? It's NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME.

"... the auto clutch does not require you to loose power and or time pushing it in" I guess you really don't realize how much power you've already lost due to having an auto. And you must be one slow-*** shifter f you think you're losing time shifting in a manual. The absolutely ONLY thing an auto has over a manual is that you will always hit your shift points perfect.

The fial has spilled over to today.

 

Is Tip Tronic some kind of alcohol beverage you give to ladies that makes them play just the tip?

 

Torque converters do but fial converters don't.

 

That's awesome.

 

Fial converters take power to make power. It's the turbo of dumbness.

 

That could be why my redundant turbo system didn't work. I could never get the first turbo to spool high enough to spool the other 5 turbos

I think I need a larger filter.

 

You need six boost controllers.

Set the boost controller to 45psi. Then set the boost controller to 45psi. Then set the boost controller to 45psi. Then set the boost controller to 45psi. Then set the boost controller to 45psi. Then set the boost controller to 45psi.

 

I almost spat out my Sprite

I'll quote a saying that a very wise man said... "Never go full retard"

 

the term Tip Tronic was used when that feature (manual shifting) 1st came out.

wasn't really saying that the auto has a clutch just saying that not requiring the process makes the tranny faster in gearing. when all you do is hold the pedal to the metal. with no need to let up on the gas like you would do in a stick. (less shifting is to perfection every time)

what it basically comes down to is the driver of the stick. He can use the full rpm range unlike the auto and if he can shift to perfection he'll most likely win, but whose to say the guy asking knows how to drive right, and i'm sure all of us has had a race shift error here n there when it counts, but only way to tell is have 2 identical Z's one stick and one manual bang it out at the track and post the results.

otherwise this ?'s left up in the air.

(tip tronic alcoholic beverages do not condone racing so drive responsibly)

 

It's already been WELL documented that the auto Z is far outperformed by the manual Z.

 

in a straight line?

but look at what years we are comparing...05 -07...07 auto i believe will beat in a straight line an 05. specially since the 07's come with the manual shifting.

 

Yes in a straight line.. manuals have shorter gearing (more gears), less parasitic losses from tranny (no torque converter), and shorter final drive..
end thread! fawk

 

hahahahahaha falcon punched, this is the funniest post in awhile thanks man this just made my day. thats f****** great lol