04 vs 06 vs 08 Stock for Stock?
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100% stock cars....07+ > 03-06 DEs
100% stock down to the tire
ALL TIMES HAVE BEEN VERIFIED
1. Pat Bateman ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.150@107.62mph 2.027 60ft
2. Veetec --------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.198@105.71mph 1.971 60ft
3. Peak350 -------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.239@105.67mph 1.923 60ft
4. Warmmilk ------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.412@104.04mph 2.006 60ft
5. Bkennedy ------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.476@102.90mph 2.070 60ft
6. 2007-Z --------------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.540@102.20mph 2.068 60ft
7. PFI350Z -------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.568@104.69mph 2.159 60ft
8. Veetec --------------------------04 Base 6spd 13.640@102.42mph 1.983 60ft
9. jdifolco ------------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.644@104.68mph 2.201 60ft
10. DomZ ---------------------------03 Tour Auto 13.667@101.57mph 1.996 60ft
11. pistols07Z ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.675@102.31mph 2.150 60ft
12. BriGuyMax ----------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.688@102.77mph 2.091 60ft
13. Specv_USMC ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.711@102.88mph 2.163 60ft
14. 350zshopper --------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.733@103.22mph 2.198 60ft
15. 1.8T ---------------------------03 Base 6spd 13.736@102.99mph 2.135 60ft
16. VitViper -----------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.763@100.96mph 2.150 60ft
17. Alberto ------------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.779@101.40mph 2.052 60ft
18. Screamin350Z04 -----------------04 Tour 6spd 13.794@102.72mph 2.089 60ft
19. gsingh350Z ---------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.799@102.39mph 2.247 60ft
20. AJcool2 ------------------------04 Tour Auto 13.852@100.25mph 2.127 60ft
21. Gripfordough -------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.861@ 99.36mph 2.105 60ft
22. Accordaleer --------------------07 Tour Auto 13.872@101.xxmph x.xxx 60ft
23. Davidv -------------------------04 Enth 6spd 13.897@101.07mph 2.026 60ft
24. fishbait -----------------------07 _GT_ 6spd 13.905@101.56mph 2.274 60ft
25. SOLO-350Z ----------------------07 Nsmo 6spd 13.914@_99.18mph 2.083 60ft
26. ART_ ---------------------------07 _GT_ 6spd 13.924@_98.68mph 2.159 60ft
27. dave079-------------------------03 Base 6spd 13.945@101.29mph 2.130 60ft
28. 350JAR -------------------------04 Base 6spd 13.947@102.65mph 2.259 60ft
29. Integrity ----------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.951@101.10mph 2.140 60ft
30. Faithmassive -------------------07 Base 6spd 14.012@100.71mph 2.228 60ft
31. cp79shark ----------------------07 Nsmo 6spd 14.017@_97.83mph 2.152 60ft
Just to show...here are not stock DE's 03-06 ones that show they aren't faster even with full bolt ons. The only ones that have a slightly faster time over the HRs are the ones with built engines or slicks.
Not Stock/Bolt-Ons 03-06 VQ35DE
ALL TIMES HAVE BEEN VERIFIED
1. AudibleMayhem ---Built Block -03 Tour 6spd 12.338@110.18mph 1.700 60ft Slicks
2. Sfarrah ----------------------03 Enth 6spd 12.876@107.81mph 1.750 60ft DR's
3. Aceman -----------------------03 Base 6spd 13.005@106.55mph 1.926 60ft Et Str
4. Veetec -----------------------04 Base 6spd 13.010@105.69mph 1.804 60ft DR's
5. Alberto ----------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.131@107.15mph 1.895 60ft Slicks
6. DayBlueZ ---------------------04 Tour Auto 13.170@103.19mph 1.922 60ft Street
7. Tywinter ---------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.201@103.52mph 1.847 60ft Slicks
8. 3hree5ive0ero ----------------03 Tour 6spd 13.212@104.75mph 1.896 60ft Slicks
9. Zridder19 --------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.226@104.29mph 1.893 60ft DR's
10. Trey.Hutcheson ---- SEDAN ---05 G35- 6spd 13.264@103.96mph 1.895 60ft DR's
11. Davidv ----------------------04 Enth 6spd 13.331@105.24mph 1.947 60ft Street
12. Mojo Powered ----------------04 Tour 6spd 13.349@103.32mph 1.919 60ft DR's
13. Corsair ---------------------03 Perf 6spd 13.377@103.08mph 1.913 60ft DR's
14. 04treefiddy------------------04 Enth 6spd 13.379@101.95mph 1.901 60ft DR's
15. Integrity -------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.396@103.82mph 1.899 60ft Slicks
16. JG 350z ---------------------05 Enth 6spd 13.454@102.92mph 1.965 60ft Street
17. 350z_Redline ----------------03 Tour 6spd 13.488@103.92mph 1.992 60ft Street
18. DomZ ------------------------03 Tour Auto 13.494@101.89mph 1.956 60ft Street
19. Shifty711 -------------------05 35th 6spd 13.557@103.39mph 2.081 60ft Street
20. Supra Crazy -----------------03 Trac 6spd 13.572@107.10mph 2.175 60ft Street
21. abailey269 --------- SEDAN --04 G35_ 6spd 13.631@101.81mph 1.966 60ft DR's
22. imprtlvr --------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.637@100.99mph 1.962 60ft Street
23. Walkert ---------------------05 Base 6spd 13.640@101.57mph 2.048 60ft Street
24. VicPham ---------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.653@103.15mph 2.195 60ft Street
25. Gotbooost--------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.669@101.52mph 2.029 60ft Street
100% stock down to the tire
ALL TIMES HAVE BEEN VERIFIED
1. Pat Bateman ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.150@107.62mph 2.027 60ft
2. Veetec --------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.198@105.71mph 1.971 60ft
3. Peak350 -------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.239@105.67mph 1.923 60ft
4. Warmmilk ------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.412@104.04mph 2.006 60ft
5. Bkennedy ------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.476@102.90mph 2.070 60ft
6. 2007-Z --------------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.540@102.20mph 2.068 60ft
7. PFI350Z -------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.568@104.69mph 2.159 60ft
8. Veetec --------------------------04 Base 6spd 13.640@102.42mph 1.983 60ft
9. jdifolco ------------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.644@104.68mph 2.201 60ft
10. DomZ ---------------------------03 Tour Auto 13.667@101.57mph 1.996 60ft
11. pistols07Z ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.675@102.31mph 2.150 60ft
12. BriGuyMax ----------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.688@102.77mph 2.091 60ft
13. Specv_USMC ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.711@102.88mph 2.163 60ft
14. 350zshopper --------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.733@103.22mph 2.198 60ft
15. 1.8T ---------------------------03 Base 6spd 13.736@102.99mph 2.135 60ft
16. VitViper -----------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.763@100.96mph 2.150 60ft
17. Alberto ------------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.779@101.40mph 2.052 60ft
18. Screamin350Z04 -----------------04 Tour 6spd 13.794@102.72mph 2.089 60ft
19. gsingh350Z ---------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.799@102.39mph 2.247 60ft
20. AJcool2 ------------------------04 Tour Auto 13.852@100.25mph 2.127 60ft
21. Gripfordough -------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.861@ 99.36mph 2.105 60ft
22. Accordaleer --------------------07 Tour Auto 13.872@101.xxmph x.xxx 60ft
23. Davidv -------------------------04 Enth 6spd 13.897@101.07mph 2.026 60ft
24. fishbait -----------------------07 _GT_ 6spd 13.905@101.56mph 2.274 60ft
25. SOLO-350Z ----------------------07 Nsmo 6spd 13.914@_99.18mph 2.083 60ft
26. ART_ ---------------------------07 _GT_ 6spd 13.924@_98.68mph 2.159 60ft
27. dave079-------------------------03 Base 6spd 13.945@101.29mph 2.130 60ft
28. 350JAR -------------------------04 Base 6spd 13.947@102.65mph 2.259 60ft
29. Integrity ----------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.951@101.10mph 2.140 60ft
30. Faithmassive -------------------07 Base 6spd 14.012@100.71mph 2.228 60ft
31. cp79shark ----------------------07 Nsmo 6spd 14.017@_97.83mph 2.152 60ft
Just to show...here are not stock DE's 03-06 ones that show they aren't faster even with full bolt ons. The only ones that have a slightly faster time over the HRs are the ones with built engines or slicks.
Not Stock/Bolt-Ons 03-06 VQ35DE
ALL TIMES HAVE BEEN VERIFIED
1. AudibleMayhem ---Built Block -03 Tour 6spd 12.338@110.18mph 1.700 60ft Slicks
2. Sfarrah ----------------------03 Enth 6spd 12.876@107.81mph 1.750 60ft DR's
3. Aceman -----------------------03 Base 6spd 13.005@106.55mph 1.926 60ft Et Str
4. Veetec -----------------------04 Base 6spd 13.010@105.69mph 1.804 60ft DR's
5. Alberto ----------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.131@107.15mph 1.895 60ft Slicks
6. DayBlueZ ---------------------04 Tour Auto 13.170@103.19mph 1.922 60ft Street
7. Tywinter ---------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.201@103.52mph 1.847 60ft Slicks
8. 3hree5ive0ero ----------------03 Tour 6spd 13.212@104.75mph 1.896 60ft Slicks
9. Zridder19 --------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.226@104.29mph 1.893 60ft DR's
10. Trey.Hutcheson ---- SEDAN ---05 G35- 6spd 13.264@103.96mph 1.895 60ft DR's
11. Davidv ----------------------04 Enth 6spd 13.331@105.24mph 1.947 60ft Street
12. Mojo Powered ----------------04 Tour 6spd 13.349@103.32mph 1.919 60ft DR's
13. Corsair ---------------------03 Perf 6spd 13.377@103.08mph 1.913 60ft DR's
14. 04treefiddy------------------04 Enth 6spd 13.379@101.95mph 1.901 60ft DR's
15. Integrity -------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.396@103.82mph 1.899 60ft Slicks
16. JG 350z ---------------------05 Enth 6spd 13.454@102.92mph 1.965 60ft Street
17. 350z_Redline ----------------03 Tour 6spd 13.488@103.92mph 1.992 60ft Street
18. DomZ ------------------------03 Tour Auto 13.494@101.89mph 1.956 60ft Street
19. Shifty711 -------------------05 35th 6spd 13.557@103.39mph 2.081 60ft Street
20. Supra Crazy -----------------03 Trac 6spd 13.572@107.10mph 2.175 60ft Street
21. abailey269 --------- SEDAN --04 G35_ 6spd 13.631@101.81mph 1.966 60ft DR's
22. imprtlvr --------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.637@100.99mph 1.962 60ft Street
23. Walkert ---------------------05 Base 6spd 13.640@101.57mph 2.048 60ft Street
24. VicPham ---------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.653@103.15mph 2.195 60ft Street
25. Gotbooost--------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.669@101.52mph 2.029 60ft Street
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Originally Posted by Dr. Venture
i dont care how you put it...a vette compared to a z in some years of age will fall apart, but the Z will stay strong!
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Originally Posted by z-u-later
Yeah, I've read his posts too, and he is definitely a d1ckhead, however you slice it. More than likely a typical vette owner -- old, fat & balding. And a pig in Vegas to top it off -- more than likely a crook too. Not sure why he's still trolling here -- he probably can't get attention in the vette forum so he wants to be "different" here. Oh, how the truth hurts sometimes, loser.
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Sadly, most Vette owners are old people.
I'll take my Vette with old guy image and lower insurance rates.
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
A Twin Turbo 300zx can kill a 350z. HR it is pretty close.
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no matter what age i am...i'll never buy a vette!!
this is my MLC car....at 27! and its faster than a vette!
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But does it really matter what 350 z is faster or not? Do you wake up with the KING and a prize each day for having the fastest z? And how are you going to compare an older dated 300zxtt to a vehicle made to bring nissan back from retirement in the 350z? the tt was out when the hype was BIG hence the TT. In todays economical world the Z's good enough for me! And making it faster is the prize!
this is my MLC car....at 27! and its faster than a vette!
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But does it really matter what 350 z is faster or not? Do you wake up with the KING and a prize each day for having the fastest z? And how are you going to compare an older dated 300zxtt to a vehicle made to bring nissan back from retirement in the 350z? the tt was out when the hype was BIG hence the TT. In todays economical world the Z's good enough for me! And making it faster is the prize!
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Originally Posted by Z04
based on what? your personal opinion? and please do not throw out bench racing numbers or say "the 300ZX is a TT, it must be faster" line because that is not the case. in all categories, the 350Z outperforms the 300ZX, hands down.
I have yet to see a 350z beat a stock TT when both are stock cars. 350Z is not faster than a TwinTurbo 300ZX.
Guess all the magazines that tested the cars (350z) when it came out lied too saying the 350z isn't as fast as the old z32.
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O.M.G. Learn some grammar, please.
Just sayin'. Before you rag on someone's writing or quality of post, check yours first.
Just sayin'. Before you rag on someone's writing or quality of post, check yours first.
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I sold my 1994 300ZX Twin Turbo for my 2003 350Z Enthusiast a couple months ago. Stock for stock, its pretty close. I've seen videos of stock TT's vs. stock 350Z's and the TT outruns it by maybe a car length, two if he's lucky. The temperature effects that car A LOT, it felt like it lost 100hp on hotter days. Never raced the two side by side myself though. After I got an air filter, exhaust, ecu, and increased the boost to 15psi it turned into a completely different car, and that was only a few hundred dollars worth of parts. I don't condone this type of recklessness, but on a certain road where I liked to stretch it's legs a little, my TT would get up to between 130-140 where the 350Z now gets to about 100-105. But my 350 is bone stock, only a K&N drop-in filter. I also had a 1993 non-turbo 300ZX back in the day and that was slow as a dog. That should be the real comparison for the 350Z as I genereally don't like to compare forced induction cars to N/A because a turbo car will respond to mods much better as far as power goes. But all in all, the 350Z is a great all around car. Handling and braking don't compare, as the 300ZX is ****-poor in both those arenas. What I'm trying to say is, for what I use the car for, I don't miss the extra power my TT had, I love my 350Z! I hope this clears the air a little with the 300 vs. 350 sub-discussion in here.
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Z was made for TRACKING!!!!!! you dont need a turbo for the track to do well, it's all about handling. Turbo tends to throw you to fast into the turns where you have to waste brake more in order to compensate. More power doesn't always mean better results.
for what it's worth the 350's an excellent car through out!
for what it's worth the 350's an excellent car through out!
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Personal experience. I've driven both stock and I've driven both with about $300 worth of mods. In each case, the Z32 won.
Originally Posted by Z04
based on what? your personal opinion? and please do not throw out bench racing numbers or say "the 300ZX is a TT, it must be faster" line because that is not the case. in all categories, the 350Z outperforms the 300ZX, hands down.
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Originally Posted by Dr. Venture
no matter what age i am...i'll never buy a vette!!
this is my MLC car....at 27! and its faster than a vette!
this is my MLC car....at 27! and its faster than a vette!
Your are Hilarious...
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I'm 27...here is my MLC....
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
Ok if u get a robot for both cars DE Vs HR then the HR will win. But like in my 1st post says it's driver...
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Heck I beat a TT 300 with a 99 Miata. and my Z is faster than my miata was...so....a 350 can beat a 300TT. That same 300TT got beat by a reg. 300...(it was a turd, I know.)
Driver is everything. Not to mention some cars just run better.
Case in point my SRT4 ran a 13.7 stock. w/ DA @ almost 4000ft. no other SRT4 in town could get out of the low 14's.
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Those mods do nothing for power. Exhaust maybe 5 hp, Intake you probably lost, flywheel/clutch zill.
You lose credibility points daily!!!!!!!!!
How can you deny that losing weight off the drivetrain will not net you a higher WHP.......just like throwing heavy wheels on the car loses WHP.
Sure bolt on's may suck, but i guarantee that if you lighten the flywheel, driveshaft, wheels, crank pulley etc ( all items that induce load on the engine) you will see a higher WHP.
And to me, theres no doubt that the HR is a better motor to have over either DE. Id take one for sure.
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You do NOT GAIN ANY HP OR TQ from a flywheel clutch upgrade. PROVE ME WRONG. The Mass and weight of a flywheel will make a difference in the way the car rev's up but no one notices it in the 1/4 because the car is much harder to launch now. No dynos have shown a gain period on this. This has been discussed MANY MANY TIMES for years.
Crank Pulleys do not even gain anything on this car either.
Crank Pulleys do not even gain anything on this car either.
Originally Posted by Chris @ Migliore
You lose credibility points daily!!!!!!!!!
How can you deny that losing weight off the drivetrain will not net you a higher WHP.......just like throwing heavy wheels on the car loses WHP.
Sure bolt on's may suck, but i guarantee that if you lighten the flywheel, driveshaft, wheels, crank pulley etc ( all items that induce load on the engine) you will see a higher WHP.
And to me, theres no doubt that the HR is a better motor to have over either DE. Id take one for sure.
How can you deny that losing weight off the drivetrain will not net you a higher WHP.......just like throwing heavy wheels on the car loses WHP.
Sure bolt on's may suck, but i guarantee that if you lighten the flywheel, driveshaft, wheels, crank pulley etc ( all items that induce load on the engine) you will see a higher WHP.
And to me, theres no doubt that the HR is a better motor to have over either DE. Id take one for sure.
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