New daily driver - 07 350z vs. 04 c5 z06
10-16-2008, 07:04 AM
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Actually the C4 was a mechanically sound car and at the time they came out, they had a lot of technology not being used by other cars and laid the platform for what we have rolling today. To say it was garbage on wheels shows a profound lack of understanding for the auto industry and the development of the inovations we have today.
The biggest problem the C4 had was it brought in the tuned port injection, all electronic controls. Most folks had no understanding of an ECM and fuel injection, nor did most of the shops. Remember if your old enough, 1985 was the introduction of tuned port. The IBM PC's didn't hit the market until 1983 and the consumer market for PC's didn't take off until the later 80's, windows didn't come out until 1995, that's ten years after the introduction of the tuned port.
The lack of understanding of computer controlled vehicles gave the early C4's a bad name. This lack of understanding also made the old Rochester Quadrajet carb and HEI distributor very sought after. In the 90's people pulled the FI out of their car to put in carbs because they did not understand FI.
I do control systems for a living, so the ECM was a play toy. Once the system was hacked and we could burn new eproms for the mods we made, the car came alive.
I sold the car earlier this year, I had all the prior repair records, single owner car when I bought it. They had no mechanical problems. In ten years of ownership, I had to swap the altenator, the radiator, a headlight gear, the LCD display, fuel injectors and put new in valve seals. Not bad for a 23 year old car with 100K+ miles.
The biggest problem the C4 had was it brought in the tuned port injection, all electronic controls. Most folks had no understanding of an ECM and fuel injection, nor did most of the shops. Remember if your old enough, 1985 was the introduction of tuned port. The IBM PC's didn't hit the market until 1983 and the consumer market for PC's didn't take off until the later 80's, windows didn't come out until 1995, that's ten years after the introduction of the tuned port.
The lack of understanding of computer controlled vehicles gave the early C4's a bad name. This lack of understanding also made the old Rochester Quadrajet carb and HEI distributor very sought after. In the 90's people pulled the FI out of their car to put in carbs because they did not understand FI.
I do control systems for a living, so the ECM was a play toy. Once the system was hacked and we could burn new eproms for the mods we made, the car came alive.
I sold the car earlier this year, I had all the prior repair records, single owner car when I bought it. They had no mechanical problems. In ten years of ownership, I had to swap the altenator, the radiator, a headlight gear, the LCD display, fuel injectors and put new in valve seals. Not bad for a 23 year old car with 100K+ miles.
10-16-2008, 10:21 AM
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Sorry but 405hp (conservative rating) owns 306 (slightly conservative). Z06 is around 200lbs lighter, and considerably more powerful...
two different cars, in different classes, in different price ranges..
apples and oranges.
I love my 350z, love my HR motor, but know my place. Z06 > 350
10-16-2008, 12:40 PM
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Id go C5 Z06 all day over the 350z HR if performance was the only criteria stock to stock. But if you throw looks in and out, ergonomics and most important WARRANTY in the mix the choice becomes much harder. Interior isnt a big deal with me but having been in both I think the 350Z's interior is a much nicer place to be with better materials and shapes if you care about that stuff.
Now for 3k more you could step up to the C6 used around 30k as someone mentioned. Id take the C6 over the HR any day as it will come with a WARRANTY.
Now for 3k more you could step up to the C6 used around 30k as someone mentioned. Id take the C6 over the HR any day as it will come with a WARRANTY.
01-16-2009, 08:37 AM
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Man I really like the honest views even though this is a 350Z site the truth be told is the Vette is Old techniology at its best. The Vette has classic Corvette looks and that model is one of my favorites and performance from the old push rod engine rivals some the best performance cars in the world. I like my 350Z but I bow to the C6 Vette just like most Lambos and Porsches do when it comes to raw power and overall straight line speed. The Vette is a cheap SUPER CAR!!! The Z is a cheap Sports car, compared to a Porcshe Cayman.
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Actually the C4 was a mechanically sound car and at the time they came out, they had a lot of technology not being used by other cars and laid the platform for what we have rolling today. To say it was garbage on wheels shows a profound lack of understanding for the auto industry and the development of the inovations we have today.
The biggest problem the C4 had was it brought in the tuned port injection, all electronic controls. Most folks had no understanding of an ECM and fuel injection, nor did most of the shops. Remember if your old enough, 1985 was the introduction of tuned port. The IBM PC's didn't hit the market until 1983 and the consumer market for PC's didn't take off until the later 80's, windows didn't come out until 1995, that's ten years after the introduction of the tuned port.
The lack of understanding of computer controlled vehicles gave the early C4's a bad name. This lack of understanding also made the old Rochester Quadrajet carb and HEI distributor very sought after. In the 90's people pulled the FI out of their car to put in carbs because they did not understand FI.
I do control systems for a living, so the ECM was a play toy. Once the system was hacked and we could burn new eproms for the mods we made, the car came alive.
I sold the car earlier this year, I had all the prior repair records, single owner car when I bought it. They had no mechanical problems. In ten years of ownership, I had to swap the altenator, the radiator, a headlight gear, the LCD display, fuel injectors and put new in valve seals. Not bad for a 23 year old car with 100K+ miles.
The biggest problem the C4 had was it brought in the tuned port injection, all electronic controls. Most folks had no understanding of an ECM and fuel injection, nor did most of the shops. Remember if your old enough, 1985 was the introduction of tuned port. The IBM PC's didn't hit the market until 1983 and the consumer market for PC's didn't take off until the later 80's, windows didn't come out until 1995, that's ten years after the introduction of the tuned port.
The lack of understanding of computer controlled vehicles gave the early C4's a bad name. This lack of understanding also made the old Rochester Quadrajet carb and HEI distributor very sought after. In the 90's people pulled the FI out of their car to put in carbs because they did not understand FI.
I do control systems for a living, so the ECM was a play toy. Once the system was hacked and we could burn new eproms for the mods we made, the car came alive.
I sold the car earlier this year, I had all the prior repair records, single owner car when I bought it. They had no mechanical problems. In ten years of ownership, I had to swap the altenator, the radiator, a headlight gear, the LCD display, fuel injectors and put new in valve seals. Not bad for a 23 year old car with 100K+ miles.
01-17-2009, 08:09 AM
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this can go on for decades and it probably has beacuase all this is opinion based, overall
all american cars suck period but besides the point i think corvettes are somewhat kinda nice but i wouldnt buy one anyways, its just like all american so called sports/muscle cars a big *** v8 and some flowmasters.if you want something to drag race yea id probably buy a vette but if i wanna actually drive the car anywhere from auto x,drifting,drag and evereything in between i think a non american car will be my choice same for a lot other people so in this case i think 350z is the winner.
all american cars suck period but besides the point i think corvettes are somewhat kinda nice but i wouldnt buy one anyways, its just like all american so called sports/muscle cars a big *** v8 and some flowmasters.if you want something to drag race yea id probably buy a vette but if i wanna actually drive the car anywhere from auto x,drifting,drag and evereything in between i think a non american car will be my choice same for a lot other people so in this case i think 350z is the winner.
01-17-2009, 09:09 AM
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lol. what a funny thread. I owned an 03 Z. I own an 01 Z06 (slightly modded). I am going to pick up an 08 auto enthusiast as a DD next month.
To call out the Z06 for interior materials is only expressing your feminine side. The only reason the car has an interior is to make it street legal, IMO. It would look funny without one.
To disparage a car is only showing your out of control ego to all of us. They are both great cars, neither are the best, and you can make a worse decision by not going with either of them.
Try to enjoy life instead of resist it.
To call out the Z06 for interior materials is only expressing your feminine side. The only reason the car has an interior is to make it street legal, IMO. It would look funny without one.
To disparage a car is only showing your out of control ego to all of us. They are both great cars, neither are the best, and you can make a worse decision by not going with either of them.
Try to enjoy life instead of resist it.
02-26-2009, 09:47 AM
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Look and brand name and type of vehicle gets the women Charles Field. Im sorry but the Corvette has the 350z owned even as a base model c5 or c6 any day. All you have to say at the club/bar is oh hi I drive a vette and panties wet. But you say I drive a 350z they say oh, that nissan thingy....
id pick the 350z over the vette for looks any day. im not hating on the vette, its still a nice car and looks really nice, but id still take the Z. whether it loses performance wise or not.
probably cause a 350z and s2000 were my dream cars
02-26-2009, 11:27 AM
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did the OP make a decision on this yet? i'm kinda in the same boat... am debating between keeping my 07 ZX-6R + getting a 350z, or dumping the bike and just getting a used C6... i can get a 35HR Z for $18-19k, but a C6 vette targa for only about $27k...
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Old and dead but still a hilarious example .
A BASE C5 best the 350z hr in every performance category . Including handling & fuel consumption . / why compare to a c5z06 when it cant even best the base c5 in performance ?
The only thing you could say about the 350z that is better is the interior / looks .
Looks are subjective and even if the 350z's interior is better than the vetts its still not that nice compared to other cars .
350z is a cool car but the z car and vett rivalry ended when the c5 was introduced / since then the only thing the z has that is comparable to the base vett is the price tag and a better interior .
350 DE 287 hp vs c5 base 350 hp
350hr 306 hp vs c6 base 430 hp
A BASE C5 best the 350z hr in every performance category . Including handling & fuel consumption . / why compare to a c5z06 when it cant even best the base c5 in performance ?
The only thing you could say about the 350z that is better is the interior / looks .
Looks are subjective and even if the 350z's interior is better than the vetts its still not that nice compared to other cars .
350z is a cool car but the z car and vett rivalry ended when the c5 was introduced / since then the only thing the z has that is comparable to the base vett is the price tag and a better interior .
350 DE 287 hp vs c5 base 350 hp
350hr 306 hp vs c6 base 430 hp
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