Ok, I'm gonna vent here for a second...

Why is it that almost every aftermarket performance mod for the Z costs so damned much money?????? It is VERY discouraging. I mean exhaust for my past vehicles cost in the neighborhood of $160 to $260 for the part and another $100 to install it. For the Z the cheapest exhaust (that I have been able to find) is at LEAST $800 for the part alone!!! What's up with that!?!? A Crawford Plenum will run you $500 (God forbid you get a polished one). I got a "superchips" chip for my F-150 and it cost me $200. The only chip I've seen for the Z is around $700! JESUS CHRIST!!! Haven't I spent enough money on the CAR itself? It is just ridiculous in my opinion the prices on this stuff. Am I alone on this?

Ok... I'm done venting now

-Chris

 

I know your not alone, I'm purchasing the nismo exhaust its like 1000 shipped, I mean why am I spending a 1000 for a little more sound??! Its almost like I spent so much money for the car itself, that I don't mind spending 1000 on exhaust because in comparison to the price of the car, whats another grand

 

i guess coming from a honda these parts prices dont scare me, good parts for a regular civic or integra were almost just as much if not the same for most everything. I paid $455 for my exhaust for my integra, $200 more for a borla is very fair since its two pipes. The intake costs are the same, the cam prices are the same (for good cams) even though you get more with the Z, headers are the same if not more (again, for good ones)

 

what shop were you shopping at for your honda? all my civic stuff was much cheaper than you just explained...not even close to the z parts. maybe i'm just shopping at the right places. but, i still buy z stuff.

 

good shops from honda-tech. i bought only the best stuff for my integra. i didnt buy ANYTHING cheap.

 

I completely agree with you. Its absolutely ridiculous and i won't pay it. That always happens to new cars, especially ones that they know will be modified. The same thing is the case for my PT Cruiser. It was new, and everyone modded them, so the parts were through the roof. They still are now, but just a little better.

The one that makes me really laugh is the intakes. More than $250 for a shiny pipe and a filter that gives you a couple horsepower! Come on!

 

well, atleast FI prices are about the same.

Give it some time, when there are plenty of competition, cheaper items built from previous know-how would appear on market. The 350Z has had only one year on market.

 

ok, i used to wrong word...it wasn't "cheap"....my stuff was "inexpensive". i get deals wherever i buy...i never pay full price. never.

 

Nobody does, Nismo MSRP $1200.00, no one pays that we get a bargain at $1000 =)

 

Well, I agree that since the Z is new, the prices are going to be higher than the same part for an older car, but not the jacked up rates they are charging. I guess the way I see it is if the part costs $250 for one car, it should cost $250 for ALL cars.

Supirio, I agree that when compared to the price of the car, an extra $1000 is no big deal, but it helps when it's added into the total price of the car so that it's divided up over a few years. If they offered all the aftermarket parts at the dealership it wouldn't be so hard to pay for. I'd much rather pay $16.67 for 60 months for an Injen exhaust system than a single hit for $1000 all at once... know what I mean?

-Chris

 

well you're also paying for their R&D also. Look at the turbos that are coming out, with R&D they blew an engine or two, so have to make up for their losts. Plus the Z is new, not that much vendors have R&D departments to make new parts for the Z. The honda's model line hasn't really been changed for 10 yrs, so no need for R&D to research making parts to fit them. Guess if you want cheaper parts for the Z, gonna have to wait like the rest of us

 

Yup, supply and demand. There are not too many Z's so the demand is low. Low demand means the R&D costs must be shared between fewer people.

Before I go on, never compare anything like a F-150 to the Z. Now, we all know how many F-150s are on the road and how infrequently they change. Consequently, there is higher demand and more people to share the cost of R&D and distribution.

I understand your *****, but it is really just economics. Remember, people like Crawford are making those plenums by HAND. They are not made on a automate machine. Furthermore, there is not enough demand to warrant Crawford purchasing an automated machine.

If you want cheap parts, buy a J-body

 

Upper intake manifold (plenum) for a 2.5L ford engines is $799 + S/H
the only difference between the stock and this one is its black and the inside is smoother...

compair that to the plenum from crawford z!!!!

Eibach springs are the same price for every car...

Full Cat Back Exaust is about the same for stainless steal exausts.. between 600 (borla) 1000 (nismo) the nismo is more i think mostly for the finish and the parts are cut differently...

another thing is... all the parts that are on the z are very well designed and there isnt much more that can be done to improve on them... so they go for ligher materials and longer tube desings...

Only part I think is over priced that I have seen for the Z are the body kits... but most of them are hidious...

 

None of you guys got bike, eh? $450 for an Ohlins steering damper... $1100 for an exhaust.... blah blah. Not that the Z stuff is cheap, either, tho.. :P

 

Ohlins front forks = MONEY!

 

I see a grand for a damn exhaust, and the biggest perk of it is weight reduction!

I will be waiting for a twin turbo of some sort. thats the only thing thats turning me on at this point, then Ill do exhaust, and all that such stuff. till then, I aint spending a grand or more to drop some weight.

 

I didn't spend a grand to drop weight either, I spent a grand to get the nismo because:

1.) not gettin rear lip, so wanted a nice finished muffler on the back to make the car look complete to me
2.) get the sound that I heard at the meet, I liked it the best out of the all the exhausts I listened to
3.) 6 rwhp and less weight MIGHT make it a little faster than a stock Z which would be nice but maybe not still drivers race really

 

Well yes, there is R&D to take into consideration as well as other factors, but some of the stuff is just silly. I agree with KONVERTER on the body kits. Most of them just look plain $hitty and the ones that look Shhhhhwwwweeeeeeet cost almost as much as the car (ok, I admit I exaggerated a bit... but not much). The most ridiculously overpriced part as far as body kits go would have to be the rear wing. I mean $900 bucks?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Come on people, snap back to reality. I mean anything is better than the little "speedbump" that Nissan calls a spoiler, but charge a more realistic price for it. God, I'm starting to feel like Michael Douglas in "Falling Down" when he looses it in that liquor store. Hey! I know! Someone needs to start a "Priceline" type website dedicated to "Naming your own price" on aftermarket parts for Zs! Hell, I got a $600 room at the Bellagio in Vegas for $100. Now THAT'S savings! Hehehehehe! "So your'e asking $1000 for that exhaust? Hmmm... I'll give you $300. Here's my credit card number." I think that would be WoNdErFuL!!!

-Chris

 

Ok... ok... ok. I'm gonna call Bull$hit on this one! Unless you are going to professionally race your car then weight reduction is NOT a concern when in the market for exhaust. Everyone knows the "real" reason to get an aftermarket exhaust system... the SOUND!! Ok, let's say that in realistic terms you get a 7hp gain from throwing on a cat-back system. You are not going to notice 7hp. Now slap in a 50 shot of NOS and you'll feel it... but 7hp??? Come on! You are paying to make your car louder, that's all and THAT is the main reason that the prices on these exhaust systems are completely overpriced! You are paying $1000 (or more) for something that is the equivelant of attatching playing cards to the spokes of your bicycle.

Anger.... growing.......... rage....... building!!

-Chris

 

many people are putting on exhaust because they know that they are going to eventualyl put on a TT or SC....which runs better with an exhaust system on the car.

i think you just need some therapy! haha. or wait a few years and buy used parts from other people...come on...people are selling used parts now.