This is kind of like the guys who have a S/C installed and don't share their impressions (experience) with the other guys. Its like saying go out and buy a supercharger for yourself and learn the hard way. I thought this was a forum where we help eachother?

I personally have an after market exhaust and don't plan on buying one in the near future. However I would still like to know which exhaust did what.

What subscriber will squeal?

 

since courtesyparts has the magazine, im gonna drive over there and buy it. i also want to know how the shootout went. will post results after i have read them. hope i dont become the "uncool" person for doing this but i am really anxious to know the results and i can see that there are a lot of other ppl who are really anxious too.

 

This is a strange thread. I can understand subscribers defending the magazine to a degree, as it is probably the most important publication for real Z enthusiasts and serious modders. I just can't believe that no one is willing to spill the beans on what is tops and what is not. Strange...

 

for some reason this thread reminds me of the eddie murphy skit "I got an Ice Cream and You can't have any"

 

Hmm.. love me or hate me I just gonna say a little of the Shoot Out:

The Borla is not the one who lost power, its was the 5Zigen
The Stillen was the best TQ
The Borla was the best HP

But like I said this #'s are relative because I saw better #'s for each one of them!!!

The Magazine is very Pro and its a keeper for all they have for the Z33... its not only the shoot out thats count is the fact that you can read a magazine dedicaded to the Z!

 

How about a big warm round of applause for webcarconnection.

 

As much as this may suprise some of the good folks at my350z.com; I believe this appreciative/hostile/imformative "dialog" is a good thing.

I am the publisher and owner of Sport Z Magazine and I believe we put out a quality product. In order for us to continue publishing Sport Z for another 3 years and beyond, we need subscriptions and we need advertisers. Marketing 101 pure and simple. BTW, if somebody spills the shootout beans, that's OK.

We have not put an embargo on the exhaust shootout stats; there would be no way to do that. The readers who have received the fall issue simply believe that publishing the numbers would be unfair to our subscribers who have yet to receive their issues in the mail.

It appears we have "offended" some of you and for that, I'm truly sorry. And, for the gentleman who was really pissed, guess a special subscription price would be out of the question. Lowrider, lighten up, it's only one article.

We will publish the results in about two weeks on our Home Page, but not before that. Even though the Fall 2003 went out in the mail one week ago, it sometimes takes 3 weeks for the USPS to get busy. When I feel that most of our subscribers have received their issue, we'll post the results for all to see.

For those of you who are subscribers to Sport Z, thank you.

For those of you who have our back, thank you.

For those of you who don't support the views of the above, we're open 24/7. Join us; you too can infuriate the masses next issue.

Bob

 

Okay, okay...

Shortly, the details of the test will be all over this forum -- and others -- at which time we'll have the fun of dissecting them ad infinitum. Meanwhile, here's some hard reporting. The cars were baselined with the OEM exhaust, before every system was tested, to account for any environmental fluctuations. Also, an attempt was made to keep the engines cool enough so the fan didn't turn on during the test.

In reverse order of hp increase:

5-Zigen (muffler only): lost hp; really loud; light
Nismo: not quite the power of Injen; stock 'type' of sound
Injen: consistent power across rpm-band
Stillen: most torque (7.3); adds 10 lbs to car
Borla: most hp (8.2); lowest torque

 

Well, I don't see the problem with posting the results either. I hate to think that the only reason why you got the mag is for these results. I am sure that there are plenty of other things in this mag besides this one article that make it worth its price.

 

Think they're sold out.

 

thanks to those that provided actual info!
Have yet to receive my copy and still looking forward to it.

I still do not quite get the attitude of those that felt they had to "protect" the info.

 

no they still had some. but now i see people decided to post the results, and after i drove 40 miles to get the mag. OH WELL. thanx to those who made the posts.

 

It is money well spent people. Subscribe.

 

Here are more #'s in order of ranking:

PEAK HP:
1. Borla 8.2
2. Stillen 8.1
3. Injen 7.6
4. Nismo 6.3
5. 5Zigen -3.4

PEAK Torque:
1. Stillen 7.3
2. Injen 5.1
3. Nismo 4.5
4. Borla 2.7
5. 5Zigen 0.2

Looks like overall performance gains belong to Stillen.

 

Man, that is even lower than some of the dynos that have been provided on this site for these exhausts.

 

stillen may have the best overall #'s as far as gains go, but there's one number missing that can knock stillen down in the rankings....$$$$$$$. that belongs to borla, so i cant complain at all!

 

Man...I really thought Injen would beat Stillen. I'm really disappointed. I know it's a marginal difference, but....uughh. All of them seem to be a big waste of money on the Z.

 

YOU SAID IT!!! i guess alot of ppl are right.....Nissan did put out one finely tuned machine (unless you go procharger or tt but thats a whole other thread!!)

 

Yuichi is god and i will do every mod he tells me to do!

I was not paid to say this!!!!

I need to get a subscription to this!

 

Well... sheeeeeeiiiiitt!! Those results bum me the hell out! I listened to the MP3's of the different exhausts from the SportZ site and I thought that the 5Zigen had the absolute BEST sound. Very low and didn't have that "cough" that most other exhausts have when decellerating. Personally I think that most of the other exhausts sound a bit ricey. Hell, even if the 5Zigen had been no different than stock as far as performance I might have still gone with it just for the sound, but since it actually lost power I guess I'll have to go with Borla. I just wish it was louder. On a related note, I contacted 5Zigen and they said that their exhaust was currently not yet available in the US and the set that SportZ used was a prototype. I wonder if the "real" exhaust will perform differently?

P.S. Anyone know if courtesyparts.com still has SportZ mags in stock? I just placed my online order (also got "The Run" DVD for the hell of it).

-Chris