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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 06:19 PM
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Man, that sucks. I hope you've called the police now. Explain the situation, hopefully you have witnesses. You did hit your head, which means you might not have been thinking clearly. At least call the police and tell them of the false information. That should be considered hit and run I would think.
Go to the meet next weekend and see if you can find any witnesses to the accident. You've got to find this guy and make him pay!
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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Hey Bonz, I'm not serious about getting a supercharger and what not out of this. But I am planning to sue for pain and suffering. I spent 7 hours in a hospital today because I kept randomly passng out after getting extremely dizzy. As he hit me, my head slammed into the glass, which by what the hospital says, caused a moderate concussion.

Also, I'm not trying to start anything, but you say I was in a situation I could have avoided? Well how so? Because I went to a local car meet. Cops asks us to leave, so I left. I left in a casual manner. I was not racing, I was not doing anything illegal, so how am I in the wrong here? It's not my fault some ******* paniced and slammed his car into mine.. is it? If my fault is going to a local car meet to see other peoples rides, and the only law I'm breaking is sitting in a parkinglot, then I'm guilty..

I understand you don't feel this car belongs in the hands of someone my age, but I don't feel you have the right to throw my age in my face when I didn't do anything wrong here.

As for suing for the sc/body kit, that was a joke. I'm sueing because I actually got hurt. Even the sueing is in the beginning stage, untill the insruance company tells me it's the other partys fault on paper, I'm not sueing.


Anyways, thanks for the help guys, I really appericiate it. I pick up my rental tomorrow.. Dodge Stratus..

Lastly, the license place of the Eclipse which hit me was LGA-239, Maryland plates. If anyone spots it, please help! Thanks.
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 08:44 PM
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a lot of truth is said in jest
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 03:07 AM
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dr.bonz , so what if he was hanging out in a parking lot ? why are you bashing young people ? every car comes with a huge responsibility but it doesnt mean you have to stop doing what you want , and be paranoid and scared of every car on the road - you cant avoid every idiot on the street , in 5 months that i own my Z i got rear ended 4 times , each time when i was standing at the lights or at a stop sign , is it because im young ( 23 ) ? im missing your point..
Ricky good luck..
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 03:48 AM
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I don't know if it is because you are young or because you are the most unlucky person on earth. FOUR TIMES? Man!

Ricky, we went round and round with this before you got the car and I'm not going to start it again. I think everyone knows both of our thoughts on this topic.

Suing for "pain and suffering" is what has made our insurance situation in this country a joke. As a doctor, I see more MORONS out looking for a fast buck than I care to go into. I can't tell you how many times I have seen completely normal patients with completely normal exams who also bring in their KIDS to get THEIR normal exams done just because their attorney needed it for a lawsuit.

And people wonder why everything costs so damn much.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 05:03 AM
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I agree with Bonz, you are victim of the circumstances you put yourself in. When you around an area where people are afraid of getting caught by the police there are going to be problems.

I just don't understand this need to have late night half *** car shows in a parking lot and then they usually go off to drag race when they break it up.

The problems with police have risen from the store owners not wanting them to hang out late at night in their parking lots as they come in in the morning to find damage and trash like beer bottle all over the place. I just love how innocent they make it sound "we are just getting together for a car show officer"
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 05:10 AM
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Originally posted by lbsohk1
in 5 months that i own my Z i got rear ended 4 times , each time when i was standing at the lights or at a stop sign , is it because im young ( 23 ) ? im missing your point..
Ricky good luck..
Are you passing people 50 feet from the stop sign/light and then changing lanes back in front of them? You might want to examine your driving habits, as NO ONE is that "unlucky".
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 05:13 AM
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I don't understand how Ricky can say, in one breath, "I didn't do anything wrong" and in the next breath tell us he didn't call the police because he didn't want to get into any trouble.

If you are somewhere that makes you feel uncomfortable to call the police from, you are somewhere you shouldn't be.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 05:47 AM
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You can still file a police report and pursue action to get your car fixed.

Here's my only advice for the future: never let a guy NOT give you his insurance (especially in a state where insurance is required by law) and then not call the police. That's a BIG mistake. The last thing you want is your own insurance covering the damage caused by him. They'll end up raising your premiums after all's said and done. ALWAYS get a police officer on hand no matter how small the accident. Let the cops delegate their time. That's their job. You pay them for that. Never let a guy give you that BS and get away.

You can STILL go to the police even now...
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by MSOsr
I don't understand how Ricky can say, in one breath, "I didn't do anything wrong" and in the next breath tell us he didn't call the police because he didn't want to get into any trouble.

If you are somewhere that makes you feel uncomfortable to call the police from, you are somewhere you shouldn't be.
MSOsr, you say I did something wrong by not calling the police.. I wouldn't say I did something wrong but more so I just wasn't thinking stright. I would have called the police, but it was such a panic and shock that my new Z was just slammed into it didn't occur to me

And your second statement is 100% true, I completely agree. I did not call the police because I was scared, since I don't believe I did anything wrong, except the fact I went to a car meet, which was in an unauthorized parking lot. That is the only thing I did wrong here. I simply didn't call the police because I was a dumbass, and it just didn't occur to me through the shock.

Mr. Bonz, I respect you as you have a lot of experience, and you're smart (obviously since your a doctor), but you have not checked me, you do not know my injury, you have not seen me.. I don't feel you have the right to tell me I'm sueing just for money. Last night I was rushed to the hospital when I fell unconcious down the stairs, due to becoming extremely dizzy. I had to go through x-rays and a cat-scan, and ended up being at the hospital for roughly 7 hours. Today, I was sent home from school because I was getting extrememy dizzy, and even then they wouldn't let me drive home.

I'm not upset with you, but I don't feel you have the right to put me down in such a way. Just because of my age, doesn't mean I did something wrong. Sure most people my age do fuc* around more, and are usually careless, but that isn't true for all cases. I know 99% of people sue just for a buck, TRUST ME, I know. I was driving on my permit, began to move slowly, as a biker drove INTO my door. I got sued. My insurance company paid out $87,000 to a law suit, and you know her injury? A cut on the cheek which didn't even require stiches. THAT'S IT. So trust me when I say I know how you feel, peolpe trying to make a fast buck.. but let me assure you, this is not that case. I am hurt, I had to go to the emergancy room, NOT by choice, I was sent home by school, NOT by choice.

You have the 100% right to tell me I'm just sueing for pain and suffering as a joke IF YOU were MY doctor.. And lastly, sueing for pain and suffering is justifable, if it was not, it would not exist. If you were hit, given fake information, then the one at fault ran, and left you hurt, I'm sure you'd like some action to be taken also.


You guys, I see 2 mistakes I made in this entire situtation, 1, I didn't call the police. My biggest mistake. I don't think it was something WRONG, but I think I was just careless, and made a mistake. 2, I was in a parking lot with many other cars just "hanging out". I don't feel my age should be an issue in this accident, just because I'm 17 doesn't make everything my fault, that's something a lot of adults need to learn. Sure teenagers mess up a lot more, and that's what being a teen is about, but in every sitution where there is a teenager, it is NOT always their fault!

And for those who say I shouldn't have been at the parking lot, let me explain this lot a bit better. It is a lot located infront of starbucks, where roughly upto 150 cars can show up. People just usually walk around, get some starbucks, and that's it. If people decide to race, they take it elsewhere since this is located in a very busy area. Personally I don't see ANYTHING wrong in having car meets.. think about it, in a car meet, instead of having 150 "hooked up" cars roaming the roads, most of them speeding, or racing, you have 150 PARKED cars in a lot just admiring and looking at others cars. Sure there are a few who race, and do something dumb, but that's max 10-15% of the 150 cars there, oppse to 150 fast cars roaming around...and finally last but not least... this goes to everyone, and especially Mr. Bonz for saying "but would an adult have been hanging out in this potentially crash-prone situation to begin with?"

The answer is YES. Usually about 10-15% of the cars there are owned by people 50+ over. Such as the Vipers, Lambo's, and higher class cars.. so don't tell me just because I'm a teenager I was in a "crash-prone situation".
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 06:16 AM
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Mr Bonz, I'm not trying to start a fight with you, or have anything against you, but I'd like to try to make a point. You have a supercharger, I'm sure you've "tested" it out on local roads sometimes.. Maybe not going 100+, but I'm sure you've hit it at WOT a few times, empty road, or not, still a public road.

Now to my point... IF I had a supecharger, and you did not, and came to find out I had hit it at WOT on a public road or not, I'm sure you would have given me you're 2 cents on how irresponsible I am, how teenagers shouldn't have that much power, ect ect.

Now sure you have more driving experience, but if that's your arguement, it's not strong enough, because you are not perfect, I am not perfect, not even a race car driver is perfect. ANYTHING can happen, anytime, right?


I'm not trying to start anything with you, because I still respect you, I still take what you say into consideration, you are elder to me, and thus I respect what you say, but you really need to open you're eyes more and realize just because of somes age doesn't make them irresponsible, or at fault. Teenagers might be more irresponsible, and be at fault more than adults, but it doesn't mean teenagers ALWAYS irresponsible, and ALWAYS at fault..
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 06:40 AM
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Ricky just a question, how do you not know someone is sueing you for 87k? I mean if the insurance company DID pay that out, you'll sure as hell know if not feel it from your insurance company. But on the other hand, your right you really didn't do anything wrong. And more power to you with your lawsuit, concussions are a very serious thing.

But I do feel Dr.Bonz pain on this, as he I'm sure has to see the dregs of society going for every buck possible. Plus I think alot of people are not a good mood about the recent string of yougins getting into accidents be it their fault or not.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 06:55 AM
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Sorry to hear Ricky... glad that you got the license plate number... and witnesses will surely help... I believe justice will be served... take care man...
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 07:28 AM
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It's not Ricky's fault.

The unofficial car meet and the accident had nothing to do with each other. To say it's his fault, that would be like saying going to see a violent movie and if you end up getting stabbed, that's your fault.

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Are you saying this is my fault? I don't understand what you mean by "it's your own fault"

Also, I do believe the meet might have had something to do with the accident because the accident occured while exiting the meet, which was broken by police, whom asked us to leave. One of the guys just thought it was a ticket, ro something serious, so he was tring to jet out of the parking lot..
Heck, you're not responsible for him WOT while turning. Who knows what his intention was, maybe he is a convicted felon, escaping from ex-gf, ex-bf.

Police asked you guys to leave and you guys did, technically you didn't break the law. I assume it wasn't a drag meet, did anyone do anything illegal?

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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by Poison123
Ricky just a question, how do you not know someone is sueing you for 87k? I mean if the insurance company DID pay that out, you'll sure as hell know if not feel it from your insurance company. But on the other hand, your right you really didn't do anything wrong. And more power to you with your lawsuit, concussions are a very serious thing.

But I do feel Dr.Bonz pain on this, as he I'm sure has to see the dregs of society going for every buck possible. Plus I think alot of people are not a good mood about the recent string of yougins getting into accidents be it their fault or not.

Trust me, we were very pissed when we found out. Our insurance policy was through state farm, and we had premium coverage, meaning 100k/300k. If you are sued due to an accident, and the amount they are sueing for is under the amount you are covered up to, and you are found to be at fault, the insurance company will pay out, by what I understood from out old agent. We found out when at the end of the year they did a history check and decided to raise out premiums big time. We got a notice saying you're premium has been raised from "x" amount to "new" amount.. and decided to find a new insurance company.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by 350zroadster
The unofficial car meet and the accident had nothing to do with each other. It's like saying going to see a violent movie and if you get stabbed, it's your own fault.
Are you saying this is my fault? I don't understand what you mean by "it's your own fault"

Also, I do believe the meet might have had something to do with the accident because the accident occured while exiting the meet, which was broken by police, whom asked us to leave. One of the guys just thought it was a ticket, ro something serious, so he was tring to jet out of the parking lot..
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 07:37 AM
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MSOsr , no im not cutting off people and then suddenly stop at the lights , i make sure i brake long before i actually stop so a person behind me sees my brake lights , twice i was rear ended by a young guys 18 - 20 and twice by guys in their mid 40's , so i guess i could rant on the old guys not knowing how to drive too right ? i dont even race my Z on the streets i go to the tracks , i know better so i think my driving habits are fine , even though im 23 i owned few cars already and have respect for other cars on the street , im not a dumb f*ck trying to show off cause i have the Z , i know i have enough power in my car to "race" majority of the cars i see on the street and thats enough for me , i know that i can , but when i want - i simply go to the track where its much more fun , safe and legal... so please dont judge my driving habits by how many times i was rear ended and dont judge young people only by their age , im more scared of a 50 yr old guy driving a SUV behind me that a 25 yr old driving a supra...
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 08:10 AM
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Go the cops, Ricky. File a report and tell them what you know. If you do have a concussion, then it can easily be demonstrated that you weren't in your "right mind" right after the accident. You'll get a lot of jury sympathy, provided the cops find this guy. Go to the cops and tell them what you know. I'm sure they'd love to help you.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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goto a chiropractor TODAY. I just KNOW that your neck and back must be hurting, get at least the one visit in now.

BTW, just go once, many chiropractors offer a low cost initial visit. You dont want a lot of money out of pocket in case this guy has no insurance and no money. But if he has either, he should be made to pay for the damage he has done...in Spaids.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 09:08 AM
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Sorry for the delay Rick, I've been out of pocket.
I will contact my Lawyer friend and see what he says. PM me your contact info.
Now then, I am quite surprised that several of you are bashing the poor guy after getting slammed into by some jacka** who does not have insurance?
Ricky is no personal friend of mine, but I would lend support to any of you in the same scenario, provided it was NOT blatantly your fault, i.e. running a red light etc.
Ricky, you can still go and file a Police report, and that will definitely be helpful. And I also advise you to get to a Chiropractor a.s.a.p.! Start building your medical case, which is most IMPORTANT in this situation. If you have P.I.P. (personal injury protection) on your car insurance you are really gonna be good to go! Because PIP pays for your medical bills WITHOUT a rise in your premiums whatsoever. If you don't have PIP, your Medical Insurance will have to come into play, or you will have to pay out of pocket, or get a "retainer" from an attorney (gurantees the Doctor(s) will get paid.
So start doing the above things, and hopefully you DO have PIP! And I would suggest to you ALL who are reading this....if you do NOT have PIP.......GET IT IMMEDIATELY! If you do get hit by some dumbshiz who is uninsured, and more importantly BROKE, then at least you can be covered up to $20k depending on your state.
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