What'd you do if another "sport" car pull next to you @ stop light?
Thread Starter
Charter Member #49
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 447
Likes: 0
From: Austin, Texas
I hope the temporary suspension of one member this morning did not discourage other members from constructive and fun discussion on this topic. Just keep it courteous and no flaming. After all, we all order the Z to have some fun on the road, not just go from point A to point B. Any econobox can do that.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Exactly... we have fun and that's totally encouraged... I just won't deal with people acting like children is all. Make jokes, have fun, just don't get racial and we're fine. 
<b>Strike 3</b>
That suspended user, is now banned. He uses AOL so unless I ban the entire aol domain, he can and most likely will reregister, but he'll need a new email address each time he re-registers. If he comes in and doesn't stir the pot, I don't care. It's when fights start I have to do something.
j
<b>Strike 3</b>
That suspended user, is now banned. He uses AOL so unless I ban the entire aol domain, he can and most likely will reregister, but he'll need a new email address each time he re-registers. If he comes in and doesn't stir the pot, I don't care. It's when fights start I have to do something.
j
Registered User
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 592
Likes: 0
From: Fort Payne, AL
Well JmanZ,
Everytime I go to the movies you stir the pot again. I guess some people never learn. Such behavior makes one less tolerant the next time it appears.We both have better things to do than address assclowns.But, as I have said before, someone has to do it.
Later...
Everytime I go to the movies you stir the pot again. I guess some people never learn. Such behavior makes one less tolerant the next time it appears.We both have better things to do than address assclowns.But, as I have said before, someone has to do it.
Later...
Registered User
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 613
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles
Originally posted by silverstone_350z
camaro ss's?? idk guys, ss's are damn fast.
not saying that the Z is weak or anything, but i honestly dont think the Z can beat an ss. has any1 here test drove a new ss (yr. 2000 or above)? u step on that pedal from a red to a green light, and i swear it feels like the car is gonna slip of the road because it cant handle its own power...that might not make any sense, but for you that drove an ss or a vet, and steppedd on it all the way from 0 mph, would know what i am talking about.
idk, maybe i shouldnt even be saying this not knowing the exact stats of the Z...just an opinion i guess...what do u think my Z fans??...
If the Z is as fast or faster then an ss, that would be soo sweet.
opinions?
camaro ss's?? idk guys, ss's are damn fast.
not saying that the Z is weak or anything, but i honestly dont think the Z can beat an ss. has any1 here test drove a new ss (yr. 2000 or above)? u step on that pedal from a red to a green light, and i swear it feels like the car is gonna slip of the road because it cant handle its own power...that might not make any sense, but for you that drove an ss or a vet, and steppedd on it all the way from 0 mph, would know what i am talking about.
idk, maybe i shouldnt even be saying this not knowing the exact stats of the Z...just an opinion i guess...what do u think my Z fans??...
If the Z is as fast or faster then an ss, that would be soo sweet.
opinions?
A) It'd be fun to try!
B) How about the twisties? The exact race wasn't specificied. An appropriate twisty road with a 'Vette would be a darn interesting race, and against an 'SS? I think the Z has a great chance to toast it!
Nissan has said its all about the handling, and I'm waitin' to handle my Z!
Registered User
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 235
Likes: 0
From: MI
hey Brian..i agree.
but the thing is..when u r driving down the road, and u pull up to a red light..what are the chances that the road is gonna be all twisted when u take off? very slim, unless u r on a track.
thats the crappy part, the fact that the Z is capable of winning, but the fact of the matter is, most roads are more straight.
I guess we will never know until we get in our Z's and punch it..
i am not the speed type of guy, but, when an SS pulls up next to me, i will give it a try.. (since there are a million little punks that drive them around here, and are always looking to race someone)
cant wait to see the Silverstone pics!!
but the thing is..when u r driving down the road, and u pull up to a red light..what are the chances that the road is gonna be all twisted when u take off? very slim, unless u r on a track.
thats the crappy part, the fact that the Z is capable of winning, but the fact of the matter is, most roads are more straight.
I guess we will never know until we get in our Z's and punch it..
i am not the speed type of guy, but, when an SS pulls up next to me, i will give it a try..
(since there are a million little punks that drive them around here, and are always looking to race someone)cant wait to see the Silverstone pics!!
Registered User
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
From: Indiana
I'm one of those people that LazyZ was talking about last week - I don't plan to race or modify my Z. Regardless what car pulls up next to me at the light, my plan is to look over, smile, and enjoy the fact that the person sitting behind the wheel of that other car wishes they were me.
Charter Member #43
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: Plano, Texas, USA
Nothing. Just let them rev at you if ever.
Racing should be done only in their appropriate venues: drag strip, road racing circuit and/or autocross events.
Specially if a non-Stook Honda revs at you. They're just an unnecessary risk and a waste of gas.
Racing should be done only in their appropriate venues: drag strip, road racing circuit and/or autocross events.
Specially if a non-Stook Honda revs at you. They're just an unnecessary risk and a waste of gas.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Are you serious?
I know everyone is excited to get their new Z cars, but many of the cars you are talking about racing are solid 13 second cars. Solid 13 second cars STOCK. A couple of little tricks on the Vettes, Trans-Ams and Camaros, and they are 12 second rods. Don't even get me started on turbo cars. For as little as $1000, they run 11's. While the numbers suggest the Z car should be able to run 13's, just remember..most of those "couple year old" cars you've mentioned have likely been modified....I wouldn't dream about putting any V-8's on the trailer until you see a REAL road test...
Registered User
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 613
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles
I would say that racing a modified car is out of the question, just stock for stock. You can mod a car to do just about anything, so opening up the whole race-a-modified-car can-of-worms is speculation with not even the vaguest hope a concrete answer.
In a straight-line all those V8s you mention will smoke a stock Z. But how about a stock Camaro SS and a stock 350z on a twisty road?
In a straight-line all those V8s you mention will smoke a stock Z. But how about a stock Camaro SS and a stock 350z on a twisty road?
Registered User
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 613
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles
Yeah, someone else mentioned that too, and it is a logical assumption that the red-light is the "christmas-tree" of a drag-race.
I would say the 350Z has a chance to keep up with some traditionally fast straight-line muscle cars. How about a Camaro Z28? My C&D lists 0-60 as 5.2 seconds: the same as JmanZ is predicting for the Z!!! What if the Z28 has an automatic transmission and the Z a stick? The Z could smoke the Z28!!!
From C&D
Ford Mustang GT 6.0 seconds
Audi TT 6.2
Honda s2000 5.8
Lexus IS300 7.2
Lexus SC430 6.6
Porsche 911 Carrera 5.5
Porsche Boxter S 5.3
etc.
I know speed tests are somewhat subjective, but back in my Mustang 5.0 days I beat MANY Corvettes.
Like I said on in another post: the driver plays a huge part in the speed equation!
I would say the 350Z has a chance to keep up with some traditionally fast straight-line muscle cars. How about a Camaro Z28? My C&D lists 0-60 as 5.2 seconds: the same as JmanZ is predicting for the Z!!! What if the Z28 has an automatic transmission and the Z a stick? The Z could smoke the Z28!!!
From C&D
Ford Mustang GT 6.0 seconds
Audi TT 6.2
Honda s2000 5.8
Lexus IS300 7.2
Lexus SC430 6.6
Porsche 911 Carrera 5.5
Porsche Boxter S 5.3
etc.
I know speed tests are somewhat subjective, but back in my Mustang 5.0 days I beat MANY Corvettes.
Like I said on in another post: the driver plays a huge part in the speed equation!
Guest
Posts: n/a
Brian,
It would be a close race, but you are mistaken about the autos. In the "old days" most autos were very slow. But now with electronic transmissions , the autos are just as quick. Car and Driver even did a comparo, and on some of the GM cars, the auto was quicker than the stick. I agree...it may be a race until 60, but beyond that, the V8 will easily outpull it I think.....and in a roll-on (another popular type of race) the torque of the V8 shoudl win again. I guess your best bet would be to be very cautious about who you race..especially if you don't like loosing or have a frail ego!!!
It would be a close race, but you are mistaken about the autos. In the "old days" most autos were very slow. But now with electronic transmissions , the autos are just as quick. Car and Driver even did a comparo, and on some of the GM cars, the auto was quicker than the stick. I agree...it may be a race until 60, but beyond that, the V8 will easily outpull it I think.....and in a roll-on (another popular type of race) the torque of the V8 shoudl win again. I guess your best bet would be to be very cautious about who you race..especially if you don't like loosing or have a frail ego!!!
Registered User
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 235
Likes: 0
From: MI
i know the Z is supposed to be all that in handling, but like i mentioned before, how many times are you gonna run into a road that is all twisted to death? slim chance...so, when we talk about racing other cars, i think we should stick to talking about straight line racing, since that is the way the majority of the roads are built these days. But, again, if we were on the track, i know the Z would beat the SS with no problem.
now. the question is:
does the Z have a chance against the SS/Z28 in a straight line?
and if it does, how long will it be until the Z falls behind because of a lack of hp? or will not fall behind??
those are just some ?'s that i find wondering in my head sometimes...i would like to hear what u guys think, once again..lol.
but, i know the true answer that really counts wont be able to be given out till we actaully pull up next to an ss on the road and race it.
now. the question is:
does the Z have a chance against the SS/Z28 in a straight line?
and if it does, how long will it be until the Z falls behind because of a lack of hp? or will not fall behind??
those are just some ?'s that i find wondering in my head sometimes...i would like to hear what u guys think, once again..lol.
but, i know the true answer that really counts wont be able to be given out till we actaully pull up next to an ss on the road and race it.
Guest
Posts: n/a
brianZ, I would feel confident I could dog any car on that list...the only real challenge might be the Carerra or Boxster...but I think I could take them.
And I think one poster said it best, most 'races' will be on straightaways, either down your local boulevard or on the freeway, that is my favorite place.
My main concern with the Z is the weight. While it is slimmer than the previous generation by about 200lb, it is still on the portly side. And when getting the Touring model, it's probably fatter.
I will be interested in seing the weight differences between the Z types. If they are ever published.
My guess for the new Z is this:
285hp with 270 lb ft of trq
0-60mph
Track spec: 5.4
Touring spec: 5.6
And I think one poster said it best, most 'races' will be on straightaways, either down your local boulevard or on the freeway, that is my favorite place.
My main concern with the Z is the weight. While it is slimmer than the previous generation by about 200lb, it is still on the portly side. And when getting the Touring model, it's probably fatter.
I will be interested in seing the weight differences between the Z types. If they are ever published.
My guess for the new Z is this:
285hp with 270 lb ft of trq
0-60mph
Track spec: 5.4
Touring spec: 5.6
Registered User
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 235
Likes: 0
From: MI
R*Rocket:
if the Z runs 0-60 in 5.2, then why wouldnt the Z hang with an SS/Z28?
i can understand if it wont keep up after 60 mph because of the lack of HP, but from 0-60, i dont see why it wouldnt (this is based on the prediction that the Z will run 0-60 in 5.2) can you explain your thoughts?
if the Z runs 0-60 in 5.2, then why wouldnt the Z hang with an SS/Z28?
i can understand if it wont keep up after 60 mph because of the lack of HP, but from 0-60, i dont see why it wouldnt (this is based on the prediction that the Z will run 0-60 in 5.2) can you explain your thoughts?
Registered User
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 235
Likes: 0
From: MI
0-60 is actually the best kind of race, IMO that is.. how many times did u pull up to a light, and after 150 feet or so from the light, the lane merges to one lane. that kinda sh** happens constantly, with me atleast..so yes, 0-60 is a race, a race that gets you a damn good thrill too when you win..
and if you dont want to call it a "0-60" race, u dont have to, but i couldnt think of anything else..but u know what i mean, the short races when 0-60 is important...
now back on topic...from 0-60..what do u think Rocket?
and if you dont want to call it a "0-60" race, u dont have to, but i couldnt think of anything else..but u know what i mean, the short races when 0-60 is important...
now back on topic...from 0-60..what do u think Rocket?
Guest
Posts: n/a
0-60 is a race huh? That's a "ricers" race....if that's your "race", expect to get smacked around by the new Dodge Neon R/T Turbo. It will certainly do 0-60 in the 5's. As does the WRX. Tell me...how will it feel to get beaten in your "race" by a $20,000 Dodge? Ewww.....sorry..0-60 isn't a race. Heck, even the Lexus GS400 runs 0-60 in 5.8....how will that feel to get clobbered by a 4500Lb behemouth luxo-rod?
My prediction? 0-50 in 5.7 or so.
My prediction? 0-50 in 5.7 or so.