OK, not sure what that post a coule back was all about....

Let me just say congrats on the new car. My friend has a 330Ci and that is a damn fine car. My other friend has an M3 Vert SMG. That's decent as well .

I hope you are able to enjoy the BMW on all the roads the same way you enjoyed the Z on the smooth ones.

-D'oh!

 

Congrats on the car. Its not as fast as the Z but its capable of sub 6 sec. 0-60 times. Not bad at all. Wish you would have asked us first though....I noticed that you are in AZ and teh owner of North Scottsdale BMW is a client of mine.
Either way tell us how it is after you break it in. I was thinking of getting a used one as my second car.
Congrats!

 

Just because my idea of transportation doesn't match what someone else's is, doesn't make either one of us more right or wrong, OK everyone? One of my biggest problem with this board has been the level of maturity of a select few members.

You are correct in stating one could have a 2001 330Ci for around 30K if you shop around. In fact, there were actually two used ones in the three Phoenix area BMW dealers I would have looked at, both 2002's, (2001 is too old for me), and mid 30's, no used 2003's and only 5 new 2004 330Ci's on the lots. Most dealers had many 325i's to pick from, 30-40 each, but who wants a 4 door? not I.

I really truly hope all you Z owners have the most fantastic time with your Z's, it just wasn't for me. Some like "sports' sport cars, I personally prefer a "luxury" sports car. I don't need to be the fastest anymore, but I demand comfort! There's something out there for everyone.

Look at what the masses buy - 4 cyl, 4 door FWD econo boxes! (get real).

Keith

 

I don't care that you switched cars. I never said that it's a bad idea. I also never said the Z isa better car. (I know your not saying just me)

I did say that the bimmer will loose value just as fast or faster then the Z because YOU were sitting there and saying the Z was going to loose value so fast and blah blah, that is all. (It may have looked like I was flaming you or something because I just showed some proof of what I was saying. I didnt want to just say something with nothing to back it up ya know?)

and you can have a 2001 330ci for about 26k, not 30k.

BTW. I personally think the 330Ci is a great car and I considered one myself. They are very "sexy" and they have a great feel to them. I just needed some more power and something not as common.

Anyways, congrats on the bimmer and have fun with it. I just wanted to point out what you were saying about the Z, stood true for the BMW as well.

 

"Look at what the masses buy - 4 cyl, 4 door FWD econo boxes! (get real)."

Well, that would probably (most of the time) be because they don't have the money for something nice like a Z or a 330Ci.

I drove an old accord before my Z, doesnt mean I would if I had the money for my Z back then.

 

Shoulda been a man and got a g35 coupe!

 

I'll have to agree with Jsn350Z here.
It's bad PR to post something that says your car deappreciates less the others and blah blah.

***My girlfriend's b0obs aren't as big as your girlfrend's, but my girlfriend will age better, plus the overall texture of her skin is just way smooth***
Will you get defensive seeing something like that?

 

Nothing wrong with driving "yesterdays" model to each his own newer doesnt necessarily mean better, but I do get agree with ay on resale somewhat!

 

interesting debate. what's not to like in the Z. I drove the M3 convertible. Even at the same price, I would pick the Z again. I think the Z does exactly what it was designed to do...give incredible performance at an incredible price. they put the money where it needed to be, and I have no problem with the interior.

srm

 

Wait until everyone hears about the M3's engines blowing up!

 

I still think that the 330 is far better balanced than the M3. Sure the M3 has power coming out of the ying yang, but I think it might be a little too much and there is a lot of oversteer/understeer. Nonetheless, both cars are excellent and I hope you enjoy them.

 

Didn't you realize what you were buying with the Z? A sports car, not a caddy. Very stiff, rigid frame = not a soft ride. This is a performance car, not a sedan. Hope you enjoy the "BWM", whatever that is. Just kidding, but recheck your post. I think you mean BMW.

 

Bmw's have real good resale value. I sold my 1996 328i with 100k miles on it and very good condition for 14,500. BLue book was 12,500. I got more b/c of the mods, and b/c i was lucky, but still if u look at resale on bmw's vs. other cars in thier class, the bmw's have great resale value. kwanderi- enjoy your 330. The car can be made very quick with some mods. Check out www.dtmpower.net and www.bimmerforums.com for some nice forums. Also check out www.aatuning.com for turbos that will wake up any bmw to make it a beast!

Saying bmw is like a caddy is just being ignorant.

 

May I suggest you read your first post again. You are throwing stones at the "maturity level" of some members yet your post is inflamatory itself. The my car is better than your car type attitude that you appear to be projecting in that post will bring out defensive type replies from people who like their cars and may disagree with you on which car provides the highest quality.

All cars are poor investments, they all lose money basically be it BMW, Nissan, or any mass produced car. Even if it held onto the exact value you purchased it at, your money could be earning interest etc in other type investments. Simply put, a car is a loss.

I could car less personally if my car is worth $1,000 at this point. I maintain my cars and drive them until they have no real value. Currently, I have a 95 truck that has 130K on it. I plan on driving it another 200K and at least another 10-15 years. If it is worth $10,000 right now or $7,000, it matters little to me.

 

Wow Richard! I was holding back but you did not "beat around the bush" on your post.

I guess it is time to watch the fames to go back and forth! I will try to just set back and watch as you, the former M3 owner and the current 3 series owner debate the Godly attributes of the BMW.

 

alright alright.....say what u want but in the end aren't we just comparing apple's to orange's? Instead of having a pissing match back and forth i'm just gonna say that the z is a nice car and thats why i'm getting one and the bmw is nice for what it does but comparing them is pretty stupid. It seems to me u must have owned a crappy bmw for 15 years to honestly say u didn't enjoy it or respect the build quality/performance...my .02

 

Simple question (for which I may be criticized for)...I have always had the impression that once you got past any free maintenance, etc. with the BMW, that a BMW is very expensive to maintain as compared with a Nissan vehicle like the Z. True?

 

Mine wasn't....i got rid of it at 100,000 miles. If you go strictly through the dealer for service/parts then yes it is expensive. Thier labor is (i think) $75 an hour. From what i read on the forums, people have not had many problems either with thier bmw's. The only problems i had was an alternator at 20k miles which was fixed under warranty. Then nothing until 75k miles where my water pump went and that cost me a total of $350 dollars installed. At 90k miles i had a wheel bearing go, that cost me around $400. Other than that i changed the oil every 3k miles (bmw recommends every 10k!) and that was it. Bottom line is you should find a good, independent mechanic to do all your work and you will be fine. I'm sure you guys avoid the dealer with your 350z's also. I was happy with my bmw and if i could afford a e46 m3 than i would but i'm only 22 and just graduating college so the 350z is right in my price range. Not to mention its a kick a$$ car that looks as good as it performs.

 

Bull$hit. I bought my wife a 2002 5 series, and it was a rattle trap out of the gate, and a dog on the road. We kept it only six months. My Z is far more solid and rattle free (so far, anyway). We switched to a 2002 Audi A6 4.2 Quattro, and it puts the BMW to shame on all fronts.

I'm glad your happy with your new car, but don't come on this board acting all high and mighty like you just discovered some perfect little secret and now you're one up on us. Yeah, YOU got a great deal on the trade (which you didn't), but WE wont 'cause the Z is gonna depreciate real soon!!!

Let's call a spade a spade. The BMW 330 is an old man's psuedo sports coupe. It's a car for hairdressers and poseurs. You could have saved a few bucks and bought a G35 coupe. You'd still have some good performance, and you'd also have that luxury thing you need. Plus, you'd have a car with new, fresh styling, not one about to be changed.

 

Ouch, and I thought the calif. firefighters were the only ones dealings with flames this week!