Bad accident, should i install my Mastergrade WB or not?
#22
Its not going to fit properly. Body kits are already a pain to have fit properly in a perfect condition car and now you have dystroyed the front end and none of the holes will line up properly because metal streatches when it bends.
i have had this problem before and its something most people dont even think about.
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i have had this problem before and its something most people dont even think about.
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Id stay away from a wide body kit for the simple fact the amount of bodywork involved in most cases all panels used to mount the kit on will have to be replaced once you decide you dont want it anymore. So the $ involved bodywork the 4k in new wheels plus the $ it would take to bring the car back to a stock bodied z.
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Its not going to fit properly. Body kits are already a pain to have fit properly in a perfect condition car and now you have dystroyed the front end and none of the holes will line up properly because metal streatches when it bends.
i have had this problem before and its something most people dont even think about.
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i have had this problem before and its something most people dont even think about.
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i want to say thank you to all of you that gave me honest imput without trying to act like you know too much, that purple is AMAZING! its a tie on me now, the reason i like that blue is a friend photoshopped it and it looked great 2 toned with cf. makes it have a nice exotic look to it.
#28
If you know everything wth did you ask opinions go do what you do. If you you were so smart your sh$t wouldnt be all fu^^ed up right now but it is. 17k worth of damage drop that sh8t off at the junkyard not the bodyshop.. If you think your premium is only going up $25 from an accident of that magnitude you are a true retard. Stop asking what you should do with YOUR car its your $ your decision be a grown up.
#29
well i got one of the last mastergrade was putting out thu showstoppers back few years ago, i was thinking about selling the kit. but if i do it insurance will pay for most of the install, my plus on the whole deal is im the bodyman at the shop its being repaired at so ill get paid to work on my own vehicle. i can just take the cash for the parts the bodykit will replace and put that towards the carbon fiber panels or possibly wheels if i can sell my works for a decent penny
#30
Damn man sorry to hear this. But yeah, now is as good of time as any to put it on. You need to give me a PM next time all the HSV Z/Gs get together, id like to get to know some of you. I bought that Silverstone bumper off your buddy, i need to get with you when i get some extra $$ about painting it, and a sideskirt.
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Damn man sorry to hear this. But yeah, now is as good of time as any to put it on. You need to give me a PM next time all the HSV Z/Gs get together, id like to get to know some of you. I bought that Silverstone bumper off your buddy, i need to get with you when i get some extra $$ about painting it, and a sideskirt.
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i think i may just let her go and get a solar orange if i can find one, i may just be lazy ha.
#33
Judging by your post you're
1)BS'ing about the "kit". Honestly... it's every ricer teenagers wet dream to have that WB Z, and those kits are pretty rare...especially those purchased and put in the garage to collect dust
2)are a younger more inexperiened body guy
3) A fool for thinking this is a "sweet opportunity" to get insurance to pay me to work on my own car
OR
4) any combination of the above
If Im wrong....A few things....being kind of familiar with the Mastergrade kit.
1) You will spend MANY (if not all) of your nights in the shop working on your car that will be "so happily getting paid insurance hours for" and not be a very happy person. If you honestly think it will take you the amount of hours (or even close) to do the Mastergrade work as it would just repairing back to stock (the 10K in damage for the insurance $) you're severely mistaken and have no clue what you're getting into.
That kit takes MANY MANY MANY hours to get even just close to right.
2) If there is frame damage this can potentially complicate ANY aftermarket body mods and multiply that b/c of the complexity
3) That kit is a HUGE PAIN to work with and not for amateur DIY'ers, Daily Drivers, or even the daily autobody technician. Be VERY familiar with grafting, shaping, planing and molding fiberglass.
Now with that said.....When done right the kit looks mean and I kind of like it.
1)BS'ing about the "kit". Honestly... it's every ricer teenagers wet dream to have that WB Z, and those kits are pretty rare...especially those purchased and put in the garage to collect dust
2)are a younger more inexperiened body guy
3) A fool for thinking this is a "sweet opportunity" to get insurance to pay me to work on my own car
OR
4) any combination of the above
If Im wrong....A few things....being kind of familiar with the Mastergrade kit.
1) You will spend MANY (if not all) of your nights in the shop working on your car that will be "so happily getting paid insurance hours for" and not be a very happy person. If you honestly think it will take you the amount of hours (or even close) to do the Mastergrade work as it would just repairing back to stock (the 10K in damage for the insurance $) you're severely mistaken and have no clue what you're getting into.
That kit takes MANY MANY MANY hours to get even just close to right.
2) If there is frame damage this can potentially complicate ANY aftermarket body mods and multiply that b/c of the complexity
3) That kit is a HUGE PAIN to work with and not for amateur DIY'ers, Daily Drivers, or even the daily autobody technician. Be VERY familiar with grafting, shaping, planing and molding fiberglass.
Now with that said.....When done right the kit looks mean and I kind of like it.
Last edited by Driven1; 01-26-2010 at 05:22 PM.
#34
If you know everything wth did you ask opinions go do what you do. If you you were so smart your sh$t wouldnt be all fu^^ed up right now but it is. 17k worth of damage drop that sh8t off at the junkyard not the bodyshop.. If you think your premium is only going up $25 from an accident of that magnitude you are a true retard. Stop asking what you should do with YOUR car its your $ your decision be a grown up.
OP, Midnight Purple 3, just do it! Your car will be epic and worthy of sacrificial lambs.
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Judging by your post you're
1)BS'ing about the "kit". Honestly... it's every ricer teenagers wet dream to have that WB Z, and those kits are pretty rare...especially those purchased and put in the garage to collect dust
2)are a younger more inexperiened body guy
3) A fool for thinking this is a "sweet opportunity" to get insurance to pay me to work on my own car
OR
4) any combination of the above
If Im wrong....A few things....being kind of familiar with the Mastergrade kit.
1) You will spend MANY (if not all) of your nights in the shop working on your car that will be "so happily getting paid insurance hours for" and not be a very happy person. If you honestly think it will take you the amount of hours (or even close) to do the Mastergrade work as it would just repairing back to stock (the 10K in damage for the insurance $) you're severely mistaken and have no clue what you're getting into.
That kit takes MANY MANY MANY hours to get even just close to right.
2) If there is frame damage this can potentially complicate ANY aftermarket body mods and multiply that b/c of the complexity
3) That kit is a HUGE PAIN to work with and not for amateur DIY'ers, Daily Drivers, or even the daily autobody technician. Be VERY familiar with grafting, shaping, planing and molding fiberglass.
Now with that said.....When done right the kit looks mean and I kind of like it.
1)BS'ing about the "kit". Honestly... it's every ricer teenagers wet dream to have that WB Z, and those kits are pretty rare...especially those purchased and put in the garage to collect dust
2)are a younger more inexperiened body guy
3) A fool for thinking this is a "sweet opportunity" to get insurance to pay me to work on my own car
OR
4) any combination of the above
If Im wrong....A few things....being kind of familiar with the Mastergrade kit.
1) You will spend MANY (if not all) of your nights in the shop working on your car that will be "so happily getting paid insurance hours for" and not be a very happy person. If you honestly think it will take you the amount of hours (or even close) to do the Mastergrade work as it would just repairing back to stock (the 10K in damage for the insurance $) you're severely mistaken and have no clue what you're getting into.
That kit takes MANY MANY MANY hours to get even just close to right.
2) If there is frame damage this can potentially complicate ANY aftermarket body mods and multiply that b/c of the complexity
3) That kit is a HUGE PAIN to work with and not for amateur DIY'ers, Daily Drivers, or even the daily autobody technician. Be VERY familiar with grafting, shaping, planing and molding fiberglass.
Now with that said.....When done right the kit looks mean and I kind of like it.
2- i have 10 years exp. 4 in a production dealership. fully certified for nissan and benz, you seem to be a know it all nosey internet geek, pull up my photobucket and see a few side jobs ive done over the years. currently at work i have a 08 e350 i put a front end, wheelhouse and inner and outer aprons on, totalling 24k in repairs.
3- and where did i say this is a "sweet oppertunity", just seems like if i will ever install this kit, this should be the time
and your second list, which i must say your first post speak strait from yor ***...
1- it will take more hours installing the kit then replacing a frame rail, apron, and coresupport, but well worth imo because this will give me a chance to have it in the shop at a slow period of the year. i have installed many frame rails in vehicles, 1 being a 350z and 1 in a g35 sedan, both fairly simple repairs, about 4.5 hours to pull the motor, another 2.5 cutting old off after making my structural pulls, and after measing a second time and test fitting, id say 3 hours to have it all welded together ready for the paint dept.
2- hate to tell u but, i will fix the frame damage BEFORE i install the kit, since u act as if i wouldnt.. we use car-o-liner measuring systems which will bring it into spec, along with a full upperbody measuring system.
3-i have worked with fiberglass for years, very familiar with it.
and to top you whole argument, the car totalled so this whole thread is a waste of time now and should be locked unless u would like to look ignorant on the subject some more
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oh and i assume u will say its not my car in the pics, sorry, thats my other z, heres a pic of me in it if that will help. i was one of the few that purchased that kit during the original group buy with jim at showstoppers, same with the mastergrade hatch and hood shown in this pic
#38
Why do you come on a site asking perfect strangers what you should do and post pics of lambos and gtr's for reference. Stop looking for reassurance and approval like a 2 yr old u want to do it go ahead. Then you post your whole autobody resume looking for approval once again. As you can see no one was impressed with your wb and gtr paint combo be yourself stop seeking approval from others.
#39
ok to start, 1-
2- i have 10 years exp. 4 in a production dealership. fully certified for nissan and benz, you seem to be a know it all nosey internet geek, pull up my photobucket and see a few side jobs ive done over the years. currently at work i have a 08 e350 i put a front end, wheelhouse and inner and outer aprons on, totalling 24k in repairs.
3- and where did i say this is a "sweet oppertunity", just seems like if i will ever install this kit, this should be the time
and your second list, which i must say your first post speak strait from yor ***...
1- it will take more hours installing the kit then replacing a frame rail, apron, and coresupport, but well worth imo because this will give me a chance to have it in the shop at a slow period of the year. i have installed many frame rails in vehicles, 1 being a 350z and 1 in a g35 sedan, both fairly simple repairs, about 4.5 hours to pull the motor, another 2.5 cutting old off after making my structural pulls, and after measing a second time and test fitting, id say 3 hours to have it all welded together ready for the paint dept.
2- hate to tell u but, i will fix the frame damage BEFORE i install the kit, since u act as if i wouldnt.. we use car-o-liner measuring systems which will bring it into spec, along with a full upperbody measuring system.
3-i have worked with fiberglass for years, very familiar with it.
and to top you whole argument, the car totalled so this whole thread is a waste of time now and should be locked unless u would like to look ignorant on the subject some more
2- i have 10 years exp. 4 in a production dealership. fully certified for nissan and benz, you seem to be a know it all nosey internet geek, pull up my photobucket and see a few side jobs ive done over the years. currently at work i have a 08 e350 i put a front end, wheelhouse and inner and outer aprons on, totalling 24k in repairs.
3- and where did i say this is a "sweet oppertunity", just seems like if i will ever install this kit, this should be the time
and your second list, which i must say your first post speak strait from yor ***...
1- it will take more hours installing the kit then replacing a frame rail, apron, and coresupport, but well worth imo because this will give me a chance to have it in the shop at a slow period of the year. i have installed many frame rails in vehicles, 1 being a 350z and 1 in a g35 sedan, both fairly simple repairs, about 4.5 hours to pull the motor, another 2.5 cutting old off after making my structural pulls, and after measing a second time and test fitting, id say 3 hours to have it all welded together ready for the paint dept.
2- hate to tell u but, i will fix the frame damage BEFORE i install the kit, since u act as if i wouldnt.. we use car-o-liner measuring systems which will bring it into spec, along with a full upperbody measuring system.
3-i have worked with fiberglass for years, very familiar with it.
and to top you whole argument, the car totalled so this whole thread is a waste of time now and should be locked unless u would like to look ignorant on the subject some more
So what differentiates your post from every other teenage kid written post "asking about whether he should make his super jdm widebody wet dream come true and what Lambo color you should paint it". Come on man.....forums are full of them and the EXACT reason why you're getting the responses you're getting. Not to mention you start getting offended, posting, and spouting your mouth like an immature teenager.
I don't care that you have 10yrs experience or are certified benz or whatever. I know a LOT of "certified" (going down the line from Nissan to Aston, Ferrari and Lambo) guys who could put in a valiant effort on this and never be able to get it right. A "mock-up" shows me nothing. The fact is, you have to be pretty talented to get this kit right and it will take you considerably more time to do this than I think you are planning. Have you done it?.. NO. It's sitting in your garage collecting dust. Have I had my hands on and seen one being done in person......YES.
I would've hoped you pulled the rail and done the necessary structural repairs before you start the bodywork. lol But will it be factory?.....the fact is....no...no matter how "close" you can get it. ANYTHING just a hair off complicates that kit immensely. How do I know? Hmmmmm, maybe b/c I've seen it first hand? My point was you will easily double the hours when putting the kit on. Your post made it out like it was simple and it's no big deal just to "put this kit on".
Now please show me my ignorance....I must be just to ignorant to notice my own ignorance?
Last edited by Driven1; 01-28-2010 at 10:07 AM.