Heartbreak
Sorry to hear all the bad news but at least you are doing what you need to do. I might be getting layed off come May and if I do the Z has to be the first thing to go. I can always get another job or 2 (maybe) but even with 2 full time jobs (good luck finding 1 full time job right now) I still wont make the money I make now. Look at the brite side, your still young and have alot of life left to live. I on the other hand am 50, and who wants to hire a 50 year old full time starting off and pay them good money. Good luck to you and dont worry, it will get better. p.s. I hope I still have a job after May, I love my Z too much to loose it!



hahaha the baby seat in the back of the Z thread the OP started is HILARIOUS!!!!
wtf where u thinking????
and good decision, those kind of decisions shows maturity. props to you, good luck to you and your family.
all the sacrifices u make right now for a good cause, will be rewarded later in life!! (maybe a sick 350/370 z, we all might be jealous of)
We have a fear that she might be partially autistic due to her MRI shots and the docs wont admit it. So i have to pay for seperate shots in reguards nad thats expensive and hard to come by. Im calling the bank tomarrow hoping for a miracle cure but i dont see it happening.
If you mean "MMR vaccine", you might want to take a look at the front page of CNN.com right now...the Lancet (journal that originally published the study associating MMR to autism) has just retracted the study because it's been discredited.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/02...ex.html?hpt=T1
Last edited by dchengmd; Feb 2, 2010 at 11:05 AM.
Just curious...what are "MRI shots"?
If you mean "MMR vaccine", you might want to take a look at the front page of CNN.com right now...the Lancet (journal that originally published the study associating MMR to autism) has just retracted the study because it's been discredited.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/02...ex.html?hpt=T1
If you mean "MMR vaccine", you might want to take a look at the front page of CNN.com right now...the Lancet (journal that originally published the study associating MMR to autism) has just retracted the study because it's been discredited.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/02...ex.html?hpt=T1
You have to understand that medicine is the biggest buisness in the world. They have the ability to discredit the most factual evidence because truth doesnt run the media... money does.
I know how those Z32s can drain your money easily, that was your first mistake and mine too btw. Should of bought a low mileage one or just start off with a newer model (Z33) right off the bat, that way maintenance on the Z32 would have been paid to a loan for a low mileage Z or the newer model. Take it easy on this step, a car is not that important compare to your family, stuff happens all the time and life is not linear, it has its ups and downs just like the economy. The real task would be to take care of your babies and you can stand on your feet with your new life, forget about the Z for now. Later when your economy gets stable you might find another one but don't put material things in first place. You'll do great, turning the keys would be first step, that is if you can't find any other way to keep it..
The problem is there will probably be a deficiency balance left on the car. The bank will sell the car and apply whatever that amount is toward the loan. The original poster will still be responsible for any balance left. And I suspect the bank will pursue their balance with a vengeance. There is no easy way out of this one because I suspect the car is deeply underwater.
my hair line is running for the back of my head from the stress alone.
Sorry to hear all the bad news but at least you are doing what you need to do. I might be getting layed off come May and if I do the Z has to be the first thing to go. I can always get another job or 2 (maybe) but even with 2 full time jobs (good luck finding 1 full time job right now) I still wont make the money I make now. Look at the brite side, your still young and have alot of life left to live. I on the other hand am 50, and who wants to hire a 50 year old full time starting off and pay them good money. Good luck to you and dont worry, it will get better. p.s. I hope I still have a job after May, I love my Z too much to loose it!
maby ill save enough money to go to college and learn how to form proper sentences. Im terrible at punctuation.



hahaha the baby seat in the back of the Z thread the OP started is HILARIOUS!!!!
wtf where u thinking????
and good decision, those kind of decisions shows maturity. props to you, good luck to you and your family.
all the sacrifices u make right now for a good cause, will be rewarded later in life!! (maybe a sick 350/370 z, we all might be jealous of)
. i love that thread its such a terrible idea its hilarious. I really hope that i can get back on my feet soon. I dunno how long ima last walking out to a buick every morning
Last edited by quietkilla6; Feb 2, 2010 at 02:48 PM.
Its such a hard subject to discuss... I know that my daughter had a healthy diet and a stable mind before she got her mmr shots. litterally the next day she started to slow down. Sluring her words not willing to eat at all. Then she got really sick with a near death fever. When she came out of the hospital from the fever, the problem continued and she stopped her mental progression right there. She then began to back track and all her speech became gibberish. For two years doctors have been telling us she fine... shes not. we started reading up on autism, some of the charecteristics of autistic children and ways to treat it. She wont eat anything but crackers and drink anything but milk. Dairy and wheat are what an autistic mind feeds on and are sort of like a drug to autistic children. As soon as we forced her off that diet her ability to speak and understand pregressed tremendisly. Shes now starting to eat better and read words and really act like a 4 year old.
You have to understand that medicine is the biggest buisness in the world. They have the ability to discredit the most factual evidence because truth doesnt run the media... money does.
You have to understand that medicine is the biggest buisness in the world. They have the ability to discredit the most factual evidence because truth doesnt run the media... money does.
Other institutions have tried to copy the study and came up with completely different results, which means the study was not valid. Unfortunately Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey are going to have to look for other reasons why her child is autistic, because it's not the vaccines that are causing it. Money didn't discredit this study, the evidence did. Besides, if you think money can discredit a study, why can't money also introduce bias into a study (which, in this case, was proven to be true)?
Last edited by dchengmd; Feb 2, 2010 at 06:18 PM.
Well to me the worthless %*#@ would be all the people defaulting on their loans.
wow man. reading your post seems like you made your share of mistakes and learned from them. life is tough, but living and enjoying the simplest things and not taking anything for granted is its own reward. i give you props for helping your mom, choosing to adopt you wifes kid, and putting the welfare of your family before your dreams. cars come and go. it sucks that you're giving up the keys to your Z but im sure that it will help take a load off your finances. i wish you the best of luck, maybe someday you'll find yourself in a Z again. chin up and at least you still have the memories
okk... so the fact that people un willingly lose there jobs and cant afford to pay there bills (often resulting in loss of house and necessary possessions for carrying on a normal life) makes them a piece of s***? I think judgmental priX need a lesson in realtiy. Do you really think anyone wants to go through this situation with anything? car, house, what ever... its still not only painful mentally but is going to ruin the next five years of my credibility. You my friend need a reality check this isnt something anyone wants to do most cases its a last option.
I sympathize with your situation, but I work in the medical field and I can assure you that this isn't part of some big conspiracy by the medical industry - this study published by the Lancet was the basis for all the claims about the MMR vaccine being responsible for autism for the last 11 years, and the fact that it's been discredited to the point where the Lancet went out of its way to retract the study means that in the eyes of the scientific community, the research was pure, absolute garbage. It's pretty amazing to consider how much damage and disservice has been done to society because of this study.
Other institutions have tried to copy the study and came up with completely different results, which means the study was not valid. Unfortunately Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey are going to have to look for other reasons why her child is autistic, because it's not the vaccines that are causing it. Money didn't discredit this study, the evidence did. Besides, if you think money can discredit a study, why can't money also introduce bias into a study (which, in this case, was proven to be true)?
Other institutions have tried to copy the study and came up with completely different results, which means the study was not valid. Unfortunately Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey are going to have to look for other reasons why her child is autistic, because it's not the vaccines that are causing it. Money didn't discredit this study, the evidence did. Besides, if you think money can discredit a study, why can't money also introduce bias into a study (which, in this case, was proven to be true)?
thats why its so tough to discuss. Im reallly not some conspiracy theorist targeting the medical field i just feel like my situation is to eerily similar to so many other cases. I know that at times you can magically remember events when there's suddenly facts to support your case. I know that this isnt the case.
I sure sympathize with you. However, the signs of autism often start to occur at a certain age. This is also the age that most children are vaccinated with MMR. High fevers can cause damage. It may be the fever you described which started the process in your child. There certainly must be some reason for the increase in the rate of autism and autism spectrum disorders among children. The evidence just doesn't support the idea that it is vaccinations that is causing it.
Additionally, from Medscape today:
In 2004, 10 of Wakefield's 13 co-authors disavowed the findings of the 1998 study. Although the study never claimed to have definitively proven a link between the MMR vaccine and autism, sensational media reports ignited a public panic. MMR vaccinations fell dramatically.
More rigorous studies have found no link between autism and the MMR vaccine. Last year, the U.S. "vaccine court" rejected U.S. lawsuits claiming that there was a plausible link between the vaccine and autism.
Wakefield continues to proclaim his innocence and defends his earlier work. He now resides in Texas, where he is executive director of an alternative medicine center for autism treatment and research.
More rigorous studies have found no link between autism and the MMR vaccine. Last year, the U.S. "vaccine court" rejected U.S. lawsuits claiming that there was a plausible link between the vaccine and autism.
Wakefield continues to proclaim his innocence and defends his earlier work. He now resides in Texas, where he is executive director of an alternative medicine center for autism treatment and research.
Last edited by dchengmd; Feb 3, 2010 at 12:09 PM.
That having been said, there is a colossal amount of ignorance in this thread. The op clearly didn't have many of the advantages (rightly/wrongly, obtained through merit or hand-me-downs) financially etc many of us enjoy and take for granted.
He has definitely made some mistakes, but he is not the epitome of economic evil which some of you have immediately proclaimed... and he is taking steps to better himself in the right direction.
How fast some of you are to blame the individual when this recession was entirely predictable yet he was obviously approved for a sizable loan with no assets working 2 jobs... you cannot strictly blame the individual for *wanting* what society depicts as desirable. You can however points fingers at those with far more fiscal sense who give them such knowing they truely cannot afford it and with an economic thunderstorm ahead... comon now.
At any rate, chances are none of you have experienced a similar situation and thus should really refrain judgment beyond sound advice.
GL op. You are moving forward and certainly addressing the real priorities in life. Don't be blinded by love though.
Sorry to hear, glad theres hard working 18 year olds out there working for their cars, not getting their parents to buy things for them. Just have to say one more thing, why in hell did you get married at such young age? Whatever happend to people waiting until financialy stable until committing to such an adventure?



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