Anyone that owns/driven a 350z driven a WRX? How do they compare?
09-14-2002, 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by GameOver
what are you talking about??? the civic si's top end sux????
my si isnt governed and it goes +140mph. When I drove it to IN from CA I tried it
on I80. I got scared at about close to 140. There were still some rpms left til b4 fuel cut off comes online.
what are you talking about??? the civic si's top end sux????
my si isnt governed and it goes +140mph. When I drove it to IN from CA I tried it
on I80. I got scared at about close to 140. There were still some rpms left til b4 fuel cut off comes online.
09-15-2002, 02:53 PM
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Gameover - A manual WRX also tops out at around 140mph (drag-limited of course).
Stock, WRX's are not that much...They are more a clean slate for you to build on with modifications. The can be built to be highway beasts, (PE1820 turbo, STi Injectors, Supra fuel pump, Frontmount intercooler, turboback exhaust and Unichip = 311HP at all 4 wheels) heck those who have done so play with C5's and E46 M3's on the highway routinely. It is for the most part just a turbo swap away.
I am not saying that a Civic's top end is bad or anything like that, please don't get me wrong. I was just saying that for someone to say that any car's top-end sux is a bit of an arbitrary statement...
The car's top-end rush may not be as strong as a Supra or something, but then, I am betting that the top-end rush of the 350Z is not as stellar as that of a stock Supra also. Does that mean that the top-end of the 350Z sucks??? NO. It is all relative, and that is what I am trying to say here.
Stock, WRX's are not that much...They are more a clean slate for you to build on with modifications. The can be built to be highway beasts, (PE1820 turbo, STi Injectors, Supra fuel pump, Frontmount intercooler, turboback exhaust and Unichip = 311HP at all 4 wheels) heck those who have done so play with C5's and E46 M3's on the highway routinely. It is for the most part just a turbo swap away.
I am not saying that a Civic's top end is bad or anything like that, please don't get me wrong. I was just saying that for someone to say that any car's top-end sux is a bit of an arbitrary statement...
The car's top-end rush may not be as strong as a Supra or something, but then, I am betting that the top-end rush of the 350Z is not as stellar as that of a stock Supra also. Does that mean that the top-end of the 350Z sucks??? NO. It is all relative, and that is what I am trying to say here.
09-15-2002, 06:14 PM
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I'm not going to get crazy in this post (especially since it is my first hehe), but I own a 2002 WRX and have had it for 14 months so far.
I'm also buying a 350Z which I'll have in December (or so my dealer says); I'm still deciding on a color. I have to let him know by wednesday.
Anyway. I've had zero problems with my WRX. It's fun to drive, handles very well and has been rock solid reliable. I drive it back and forth between the San Antonio/Austin area of Texas, to New Orleans, Louisiana probably 4 times a year as well as around 1000 miles/week of commuting and traveling with work.
It hasn't hiccuped yet.
As for acceleration, well for a small car, it's certainly quick. Granted, I'm used to 10 second sportbikes (I own a 2002 Honda RC51 and just sold a 2002 Suzuki GSXR1000), so most cars short of a few friends 800+hp Supra's don't exactly feel fast to me.
I will say this though, the WRX from about 70-120mph is a very fun car. Accelerates smoothly, feels very solid and planted and drives more like a luxury car then a sport sedan.
I'll admit the styling isn't for everyone. But I for one, like it. I'm a huge rally-racing fan, so I'm sure that's got something to do with it.
Bashing is bashing and people will always do it to something they do not like. I'm more open-minded then that. I like most everything until it gives me a reason not too.
It's all ice cream anyway.
I'm also buying a 350Z which I'll have in December (or so my dealer says); I'm still deciding on a color. I have to let him know by wednesday.
Anyway. I've had zero problems with my WRX. It's fun to drive, handles very well and has been rock solid reliable. I drive it back and forth between the San Antonio/Austin area of Texas, to New Orleans, Louisiana probably 4 times a year as well as around 1000 miles/week of commuting and traveling with work.
It hasn't hiccuped yet.
As for acceleration, well for a small car, it's certainly quick. Granted, I'm used to 10 second sportbikes (I own a 2002 Honda RC51 and just sold a 2002 Suzuki GSXR1000), so most cars short of a few friends 800+hp Supra's don't exactly feel fast to me.
I will say this though, the WRX from about 70-120mph is a very fun car. Accelerates smoothly, feels very solid and planted and drives more like a luxury car then a sport sedan.
I'll admit the styling isn't for everyone. But I for one, like it. I'm a huge rally-racing fan, so I'm sure that's got something to do with it.
Bashing is bashing and people will always do it to something they do not like. I'm more open-minded then that. I like most everything until it gives me a reason not too.
It's all ice cream anyway.
09-22-2002, 08:58 AM
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You may find this post helpful/interesting. A lightly modded wrx raced the 350z on the highway. I'll let you read the details.
http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...threadid=44574
http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...threadid=44574
09-22-2002, 01:12 PM
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Thats a load of crap. That story is not true, no way a wrx even slightly modded would beat a Z.
Especially the 1/4 mile the z 13.9 and the wrx is 14.5 or 14.6 i believe.
Ill race a slightly modded wrx ANY day.
Especially the 1/4 mile the z 13.9 and the wrx is 14.5 or 14.6 i believe.
Ill race a slightly modded wrx ANY day.
09-22-2002, 01:49 PM
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There are many WRXs in the 12s, and it doesn't cost a fortune to get there. Modded WRX's are nothing to sleep on.
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09-22-2002, 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by zane11
Thats a load of crap. That story is not true, no way a wrx even slightly modded would beat a Z.
Especially the 1/4 mile the z 13.9 and the wrx is 14.5 or 14.6 i believe.
Ill race a slightly modded wrx ANY day.
Thats a load of crap. That story is not true, no way a wrx even slightly modded would beat a Z.
Especially the 1/4 mile the z 13.9 and the wrx is 14.5 or 14.6 i believe.
Ill race a slightly modded wrx ANY day.
maybe the Z has on the TRACtion control, i know for sure thats therez not way a slightly modified wrx can be a high 13 sec car.. all BS!
09-22-2002, 05:54 PM
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Re: WRX are quick
Originally posted by wspol00
Yes, the WRX's are quick, but how long can a WRX last being driven at 18 lbs of boost (as the guy, or KID, was taking about)???
Yes, the WRX's are quick, but how long can a WRX last being driven at 18 lbs of boost (as the guy, or KID, was taking about)???
Zmeflyby: "i know for sure thats therez not way a slightly modified wrx can be a high 13 sec car.. all BS!"
were you kidding? If you were for real, you are incorrect. I hope you were kidding
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09-22-2002, 11:47 PM
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The WRX runs almost 18lbs of boost stock anyway.
There's a guy here that races at River City Raceway that installed a kit (I wish I could remember the link to the site, but it was featured in SCC) that for $1000 adds a little over 50hp.
The kit consisted of an under drive pully, belts, an up pipe, a piggy-back ECU and a catback exhaust (I think).
He runs consistant 12's. I've seen it with my own two eyeballs!
There's a guy here that races at River City Raceway that installed a kit (I wish I could remember the link to the site, but it was featured in SCC) that for $1000 adds a little over 50hp.
The kit consisted of an under drive pully, belts, an up pipe, a piggy-back ECU and a catback exhaust (I think).
He runs consistant 12's. I've seen it with my own two eyeballs!
09-23-2002, 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by jeffrey
The WRX runs almost 18lbs of boost stock anyway.
There's a guy here that races at River City Raceway that installed a kit (I wish I could remember the link to the site, but it was featured in SCC) that for $1000 adds a little over 50hp.
The kit consisted of an under drive pully, belts, an up pipe, a piggy-back ECU and a catback exhaust (I think).
He runs consistant 12's. I've seen it with my own two eyeballs!
The WRX runs almost 18lbs of boost stock anyway.
There's a guy here that races at River City Raceway that installed a kit (I wish I could remember the link to the site, but it was featured in SCC) that for $1000 adds a little over 50hp.
The kit consisted of an under drive pully, belts, an up pipe, a piggy-back ECU and a catback exhaust (I think).
He runs consistant 12's. I've seen it with my own two eyeballs!
09-23-2002, 01:49 AM
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I was basing that on the Japanese spec version which is the same car with a less-restricted up-pipe and a slightly different boost curve. The stock turbo is capable of more than 18psi and does 17psi in JDM trim.
And the US spec one stops at 14.5psi.
And the US spec one stops at 14.5psi.
09-23-2002, 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by jeffrey
The WRX runs almost 18lbs of boost stock anyway.
There's a guy here that races at River City Raceway that installed a kit (I wish I could remember the link to the site, but it was featured in SCC) that for $1000 adds a little over 50hp.
The kit consisted of an under drive pully, belts, an up pipe, a piggy-back ECU and a catback exhaust (I think).
He runs consistant 12's. I've seen it with my own two eyeballs!
The WRX runs almost 18lbs of boost stock anyway.
There's a guy here that races at River City Raceway that installed a kit (I wish I could remember the link to the site, but it was featured in SCC) that for $1000 adds a little over 50hp.
The kit consisted of an under drive pully, belts, an up pipe, a piggy-back ECU and a catback exhaust (I think).
He runs consistant 12's. I've seen it with my own two eyeballs!
and to keep rollin here with the topic, my only concern with the rex is how well can the drivetrain withstand 5k launches.
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09-24-2002, 06:41 PM
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Properly tuned with a unichip, 18psi is about as high as you should go. Since he didn't mention an exhaust, he'll probably be faster by dropping down a few psi to make sure he isn't getting his timing retarded by the knock sensor (93 octane helps, though). With a full exhaust upgrade, 17.5-18 psi is fine and people haven't noticed any reliability problems. I've been running a lightened and undriven pulley set, colder plugs, unichip and full exhaust (or some combination of) for 30K miles. Runs like a champ! Getting a dyno tune will help a bunch, too. At these HP levels EJ20s are good, strong motors.
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09-26-2002, 03:11 PM
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Re: WRX are quick
Originally posted by wspol00
Yes, the WRX's are quick, but how long can a WRX last being driven at 18 lbs of boost (as the guy, or KID, was taking about)???
Yes, the WRX's are quick, but how long can a WRX last being driven at 18 lbs of boost (as the guy, or KID, was taking about)???
10-18-2002, 03:47 PM
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1. Vishnu stage 0 kit does not add 50 whp. It is more likely around 30whp. Also, running 12s with Vishnu stage 0 is not possible unless a driver is spraying. Most people get around mid 13s.
2. Stock WRX turbo peaks at a little below 14.2 psi. Running 18psi is completely inefficient without upgraded ECU, fuel injector and pump.
3. Someone mentioned that there is no way lightly modded WRX will run 13s. There are guys at i-club.com who run 13s with $10 mod (MBC).
4. $28000 can buy you a brand new 11s WRX. www.turboxs.com
2. Stock WRX turbo peaks at a little below 14.2 psi. Running 18psi is completely inefficient without upgraded ECU, fuel injector and pump.
3. Someone mentioned that there is no way lightly modded WRX will run 13s. There are guys at i-club.com who run 13s with $10 mod (MBC).
4. $28000 can buy you a brand new 11s WRX. www.turboxs.com